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Now non-white people can be white

Discussion in 'News & Current Events (Articles Required)' started by Aldebaran, Mar 22, 2021.

  1. Aldebaran

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    Just when we thought it couldn't get any more weird....

    If you think you're safe from being called a racist or even "white privileged" just because you're not white, think again. They now have a new label---Multicultural Whiteness. Enjoy!

    Understanding Multiracial Whiteness And Trump Supporters
     
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  2. durangodawood

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    Oh no.... its "they" up to their usual no good!
     
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  3. Jake Arsenal

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    cannot discern between their right hand and their left hand
     
  4. ReesePiece23

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    It's been a REAL hard year to be a white, heterosexual, meat eating, Christian, male, centrist - the last one especially, because people keep wanting to pull me into their way of thinking.

    For as long as people keep using the word 'community' we will never achieve equality. And I mean NEVER.

    Which is fine, but everyone keeps talking about equality. I'm just saying, if equality is what you're after, then don't spend your life being defined by a colour, a sexual orientation or a religion.

    It worked for Little Richard. He knew it was the 50s - but he lived his life anyway.
     
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  5. Abide with me.

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    This reminds me of when dance crazes in the 60's got really silly, does anyone remember, ' The elephant'?
    It involved a circle of people walking bent over very slowly swinging their right arms from their heads, in fact it wasn't really a dance at all, any more than multicultural whiteness has any semblance of logic in it....groan!
     
  6. Aldebaran

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    To be fair, the talk is no longer about equality. That was sooooo last year. Now it's "equity".
     
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  7. ReesePiece23

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    Unfortunately, you're right.

    I just hope it's a fad, or else it's the monastery for me. If it gets much worse, I'm just going to give up and opt out.
     
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  8. durangodawood

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    Not sure if youre joking.... or if goofy things like this have really oppressed you?
     
  9. ReesePiece23

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    The last few weeks over here in the UK have taken their toll on my patience, let's just say that.

    There's too many things to list, but I feel in need of a reboot. I'm a satirical individual, but I'm also a peaceful one. On this occasion it's half and half. Kinda' joking, ALSO kinda' want to live an easy life with my fellow brethren.

    It might seem silly to you - it PROBABLY is, but I'm just that tired now. Lol.
     
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  10. wandering misfit

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    I'm leaning tords the outcry from Portland and DC is one of entitlement. When other ethnicities keep blaming the past instead of their own actions in the now is leading a great many people "opting out". I'm white, live in a predominately white city and have heard racism all my life. I withdrew from my community long ago and keep to myself.
     
  11. durangodawood

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    You have me super curious about whats going on in the UK thats so trying.
     
  12. Albion

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    It won't be temporary. "Equality" requires a comparison of the two or several races (or whatever), and that opens the door to judging whether they are being treated equally or not.

    But if the word "equity" is used instead, it serves the same purpose for the person using it and, what's more, many listeners won't notice that it's not the word they have been used to hearing for most of their lives...and yet this word doesn't mean anything except what the speaker wants it to mean. Virtually any complaint can be addressed by saying "It's not fair!" :rolleyes:
     
  13. ReesePiece23

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    I feel like I'm about to get a detention or something.

    "I spat the gum out sir; and I didn't stick it under the table this time, I swear."
     
  14. public hermit

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    Going forward, we really need to think about reframing this whole discussion. Three things from the article (Beltran):

    1. Whiteness is a political project/ideology
    2. It is dynamic and always changing
    3. We're not trapped in our identity or demographic

    Nonetheless, many would say being white is not a political project, is not changing and dynamic, and one is "trapped" in the fact that one is white.

    So, we have two sides who are coming to the conversation with diametrically opposed understandings of "whiteness." We cannot go forward productively if we have not established some common ground, in this sense, an agreed definition of terms.

    As much as I want to see change and wish for some healing, I'm not confident this approach is helping.

    For one side, "whiteness" seems to be a moving target that can potentially be reappropriated as the perceived situation changes. It becomes a catch all, that by overuse and fluidity could become saturated with meaning, and potentially become meaningless.

    For the other, "whiteness" is a claim that one is racist by virtue of skin color. It seems to create resentment that blinds potential allies to the real need for dialogue and change.

    If I'm wanting to convince someone that real change is needed, why would I consciously nurture resentment? Beltran readily admits that identity politics is divisive (well she kind of skirted the question, but didn't deny it). I just don't see how this can work. I wish I had better suggestions, besides just critique, but I don't.
     
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  15. jacks

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    I see the point the author is trying to make, but she needs to come up with another term. Using the term "white" or "whiteness" as a derogatory descriptive is of course racist in itself and is not going to win over thoughtful people.
     
  16. RestoreTheJoy

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    Such nonsense.


    This one was funny. Whoops.

    "The segment aired Tuesday during a SiriusXM show hosted by David Webb, who is also host FOX Nation’s Reality Check. His guest during the segment was Areva Martin, a civil rights attorney and CNN legal analyst.

    According to a clip posted to Twitter, Webb details his rise in the media, saying he always saw his qualifications as a more important issue than his color.

    "Well, David, that’s a whole 'nother long conversation about white privilege, the things that you have the privilege of doing that people of color don’t have the privilege of," said Martin.

    When Webb asks how he benefits, Martin said it's "by virtue of being a white male."

    "Areva, I hate to break it to you, but you should’ve been better prepped. I’m black," said Webb.

    Webb then scolds Martin for making the assumption, going through his qualifications ultimately leading him to Fox News "where I’m told apparently blacks aren’t supposed to work."

    "Yet, you come with this assumption, and you go to white privilege. That’s actually insulting," Webb said."

    So ridiculously offensive!
     
  17. iluvatar5150

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    The complaint of ambiguous terminology may be reasonable, but it was "white" people who started using "whiteness" and its shifting definitions (that they themselves redefined) as the indicator of whether or not someone was a member of the in-group or the out-group. Blacks were never "white," but eastern Europeans, Irish, Hispanics, and more recently, Asians, have all at various times been considered non-white or somewhat less than fully white.

    So, if you want to blame somebody for the confusing definitions, blame white people for establishing this racial hierarchy in the first place and for employing fuzzy definitions for its delineations. Don't blame the people who merely point out the fuzziness of these definitions.
     
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  18. Oompa Loompa

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    To he honest, I'd rather be called "multiculturally white" than some of the other things I have been called (that I cannot repeat on this forum).
     
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    I didn't consider it a "confusing definition" nor was I assigning blame, rather I meant to point out it is a devisive term. (Funny "devisive" can't get past my spell checker?) By equating something negative with a racial group, you will likely alienate that group and risk not having your message heard. Wouldn't you agree?
     
  20. durangodawood

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    divisive. As in tending to divide.
     
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