• Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.

  • CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.
  • We hope the site problems here are now solved, however, if you still have any issues, please start a ticket in Contact Us

Nothing 2 Believe

Status
Not open for further replies.

NeverL0ved

Active Member
Oct 20, 2019
370
75
52
Brisbane, QLD
✟36,254.00
Country
Australia
Gender
Male
Faith
Seeker
Marital Status
In Relationship
Politics
AU-Labor
I can not comprehend why I am what I am. I know that I never made myself, nor do I own this body I have been trapped with in this world. I have not failed in seeking out the creator who gave me this existence, in asking the right questions of how one must be what it must be.

I cannot go any further into the madness of it all, because

You can't.

And the truth is that all the things we believe in, are but a lie.

It's what I'll die for in the end.
 

Basil the Great

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
Mar 9, 2009
4,778
4,092
✟810,754.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Private
Politics
US-Green
We cannot know that it is all a lie, just like we cannot know for certain that what we have been told is the truth. It all comes down to faith and if one chooses to believe or not. However, there is a fair amount of evidence that the human soul does survive death and pretty much every religion on Earth teaches that we do in this life, impacts what happens to us in the next life. Hence, it would seem prudent that we should ponder carefully how we treat our fellow men and women and especially the less fortunate.
 
Upvote 0

Aussie Pete

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
Aug 14, 2019
9,088
8,305
Frankston
Visit site
✟775,261.00
Country
Australia
Gender
Male
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Divorced
I can not comprehend why I am what I am. I know that I never made myself, nor do I own this body I have been trapped with in this world. I have not failed in seeking out the creator who gave me this existence, in asking the right questions of how one must be what it must be.

I cannot go any further into the madness of it all, because

You can't.

And the truth is that all the things we believe in, are but a lie.

It's what I'll die for in the end.
You are making it way too complicated. God has revealed Himself in many ways - through creation, through His written word, through His Son, Jesus and through the Church. They all agree. God's Word is Truth, Lord Jesus is God's Word, therefore He is the Truth, and the Church is meant to be preaching the truth. If you accept the truth, you will be set free.
 
Upvote 0

Jonaitis

Soli Deo Gloria
Jan 4, 2019
5,360
4,311
Wyoming
✟159,387.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Protestant
Marital Status
Single
Politics
US-Libertarian
I can not comprehend why I am what I am. I know that I never made myself, nor do I own this body I have been trapped with in this world. I have not failed in seeking out the creator who gave me this existence, in asking the right questions of how one must be what it must be.

I cannot go any further into the madness of it all, because

You can't.

And the truth is that all the things we believe in, are but a lie.

It's what I'll die for in the end.

You are and live in a world of phenomenon. Your existence is incredible, not just the mere presence of "existing," but the whole package of living in this world. When we were children, most things were new to our senses and fresh to our experience. Our fascination was endless, it so seemed at the time, by the unfamiliar. As we grew older and developed a better understanding of the world around us, our impression of this place began to wane as we became more familiar. What was a spectacle in our eyes as children are no longer that way.

I say that God wants to make himself known, and has made himself known, but we have hardened our hearts through sin from thinking and feeling like children again. There is absolute truth, and such truth revealed to us in this world of phenomenon. Your conclusions are false.
 
  • Agree
Reactions: IntriKate
Upvote 0

Carl Emerson

Well-Known Member
Dec 18, 2017
16,002
10,612
79
Auckland
✟457,885.00
Country
New Zealand
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
You assume rather a higher moral ground than Jesus Himself ???

If that were the case you would not be here asking questions.

You believe in yourself.

Maybe there is something beyond yourself to believe... unless you consider that you created that as well???
 
Upvote 0

IntriKate

Active Member
Nov 23, 2019
388
446
.
✟113,284.00
Country
Australia
Gender
Female
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Private
You who say you know the truth are but the hypocrites of old that the Christ warned would come, and the Christ himself is the hypocrite of all.

The good thing is that when he comes to take us home and reveal his glory. You can say that to his face ...
 
Upvote 0

gaara4158

Gen Alpha Dad
Aug 18, 2007
6,441
2,688
United States
✟217,414.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Humanist
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Others
I can not comprehend why I am what I am. I know that I never made myself, nor do I own this body I have been trapped with in this world. I have not failed in seeking out the creator who gave me this existence, in asking the right questions of how one must be what it must be.

I cannot go any further into the madness of it all, because

You can't.

And the truth is that all the things we believe in, are but a lie.

It's what I'll die for in the end.
You take all this time describing how poorly-equipped you are to find the truth, but then go on to declare a truth that negates all other people’s claims of truth. Aren’t you just as much in the dark as they? How is your declaration any less of a lie than anyone else’s?
 
  • Agree
Reactions: renniks
Upvote 0

Mountainmanbob

Goat Whisperer
Site Supporter
Sep 6, 2016
15,961
10,816
75
92040
✟1,141,413.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Calvinist
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Republican
Your existence is incredible, not just the mere presence of "existing," but the whole package of living in this world.



When we were children, most things were new to our senses and fresh to our experience. Our fascination was endless, it so seemed at the time, by the unfamiliar. As we grew older and developed a better understanding of the world around us, our impression of this place began to wane as we became more familiar. What was a spectacle in our eyes as children are no longer that way.

I say that God wants to make himself known, and has made himself known, but we have hardened our hearts through sin from thinking and feeling like children again. There is absolute truth, and such truth revealed to us in this world of phenomenon. Your conclusions are false.

It is truly amazing.
God made it
and said it was good.
If we take a good look around
we should realize that.

Sometimes slowly --
MB
 
Upvote 0

eleos1954

God is Love
Site Supporter
Nov 14, 2017
11,315
6,585
Utah
✟899,049.00
Country
United States
Gender
Female
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Single
Politics
US-Others
I can not comprehend why I am what I am. I know that I never made myself, nor do I own this body I have been trapped with in this world. I have not failed in seeking out the creator who gave me this existence, in asking the right questions of how one must be what it must be.

I cannot go any further into the madness of it all, because

You can't.

And the truth is that all the things we believe in, are but a lie.

It's what I'll die for in the end.

so ... you state you believe in creation and acknowledge the creator gave you your existence. So what are each of us to do with that existence? Each were created for a purpose ... what is man's purpose?

Micah 6:8
He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the Lord require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?

and ... all struggle in doing that ... but that is not to say we are not to pursue it.

Jesus is our perfect example of walking humbly with God. We are not to look for perfection in each other ... because no man does good.

Romans 3:23
For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

Every day we should be learning/perusing how to walk humbly with God ... it is an individual pursuit and we all experience successes and failures along the way ... throughout our entire lives here on earth.

2nd Corinthians 13:5
Good News Translation
Put yourselves to the test and judge yourselves, to find out whether you are living in faith. Surely you know that Christ Jesus is in you?--unless you have completely failed.

Without Christ we will completely fail.

Philippians 3:14
New Living Translation
I press on to reach the end of the race and receive the heavenly prize for which God, through Christ Jesus, is calling us.

so ... we press forward to walk humbly with Jesus our Lord ... and certainly we make a lot of mistakes along the way.

Philippians 1:6

New Living Translation
And I am certain that God, who began the good work within you, will continue His work until it is finally finished on the day when Christ Jesus returns.

so ... each of are to examine ourselves ... and ask the question ... Am I pressing forward?
 
Upvote 0

Aryeh Jay

Stuck on a ship.
Site Supporter
Jul 19, 2012
18,788
17,485
MI - Michigan
✟765,996.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Judaism
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Republican
The good thing is that when he comes to take us home and reveal his glory. You can say that to his face ...

He already knows what I’m going to say and he will get another dose of it up close. I can’t wait!
 
Upvote 0

NeverL0ved

Active Member
Oct 20, 2019
370
75
52
Brisbane, QLD
✟36,254.00
Country
Australia
Gender
Male
Faith
Seeker
Marital Status
In Relationship
Politics
AU-Labor
You assume rather a higher moral ground than Jesus Himself ???

If that were the case you would not be here asking questions.

You believe in yourself.

Maybe there is something beyond yourself to believe... unless you consider that you created that as well???
Jesus couldn't be that moral if he was teaching people he would throw them into an oven if they didn't love him.
 
Upvote 0

Tolworth John

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
Mar 10, 2017
8,276
4,682
70
Tolworth
✟414,949.00
Country
United Kingdom
Gender
Male
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Married
I can not comprehend why I am what I am. I know that I never made myself, nor do I own this body I have been trapped with in this world. I have not failed in seeking out the creator who gave me this existence, in asking the right questions of how one must be what it must be.

I cannot go any further into the madness of it all, because

You can't.

And the truth is that all the things we believe in, are but a lie.

It's what I'll die for in the end.

The truth is that you are loved more than you can imagine or comprehend.
Jesus came to pay the penalty of your sin, he offers you totally forgiveness, a place in his family and a place with him in heaven.

That is undeserved love of a scale no one can quantify and it is for you.
 
  • Agree
Reactions: IntriKate
Upvote 0

GrowingSmaller

Muslm Humanist
Apr 18, 2010
7,424
346
✟64,499.00
Country
United Kingdom
Faith
Humanist
Marital Status
Private
I can not comprehend why I am what I am. I know that I never made myself, nor do I own this body I have been trapped with in this world. I have not failed in seeking out the creator who gave me this existence, in asking the right questions of how one must be what it must be.

I cannot go any further into the madness of it all, because

You can't.

And the truth is that all the things we believe in, are but a lie.

It's what I'll die for in the end.
There are trillions of possibilities, trillions of potential worlds which may be "The one I live in". You have a choice. Invent one. Add a few angels. Subtract a few demons. See how it goes. If the B-side done shine, play the A....
 
Upvote 0

Lost4words

Jesus I Trust In You
Site Supporter
May 19, 2018
11,930
12,678
South Wales, UK
✟1,292,765.00
Country
United Kingdom
Gender
Male
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Single
I can not comprehend why I am what I am. I know that I never made myself, nor do I own this body I have been trapped with in this world. I have not failed in seeking out the creator who gave me this existence, in asking the right questions of how one must be what it must be.

I cannot go any further into the madness of it all, because

You can't.

And the truth is that all the things we believe in, are but a lie.

It's what I'll die for in the end.

Dont be deceived by the devil my friend.
 
  • Like
Reactions: IntriKate
Upvote 0

NeverL0ved

Active Member
Oct 20, 2019
370
75
52
Brisbane, QLD
✟36,254.00
Country
Australia
Gender
Male
Faith
Seeker
Marital Status
In Relationship
Politics
AU-Labor
The truth is that you are loved more than you can imagine or comprehend.
Jesus came to pay the penalty of your sin, he offers you totally forgiveness, a place in his family and a place with him in heaven.

That is undeserved love of a scale no one can quantify and it is for you.
All your human concepts of love are garbage too me.
 
Upvote 0
Status
Not open for further replies.