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Featured None of the Wicked Shall Understand

Discussion in 'Controversial Christian Theology' started by Hethatreadethit, May 25, 2017.

  1. Hethatreadethit

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    This Daniel scripture says this:

    Dan 12:10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.

    The prophecy of Daniel is very important to understand for one who calls oneself a Christian. Christ referred to the prophecy as a very important event to those with understanding:

    Mat 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place (whoso readeth, let him understand:).

    Desolation is a pretty big word for your "everyday Christian Church goer". Your folks believed, you had friends and relatives who believed, so what is the deal? Today is no different then 2000 years ago.

    This prophecy must be about the Jews who are going to rebuild the temple, and then some abomination in their temple is going to occur. If you believe that, then you will likely find the scripture I mention in Daniel 12:10 as self fulfilling. Christ died and arose, and carnal sacrifice has ceased, and there is no more purpose for it.

    Understanding the Daniel prophecy will take understanding, (and faith of course) and what is the source of understanding?

    Deu 4:5 Behold, I have taught you statutes and judgments, even as the LORD my God commanded me, that ye should do so in the land whither ye go to possess it.
    Deu 4:6 Keep therefore and do them; for this is your wisdom and your understanding in the sight of the nations, which shall hear all these statutes, and say, Surely this great nation is a wise and understanding people.
    Deu 4:7 For what nation is there so great, who hath God so nigh unto them, as the LORD our God is in all things that we call upon him for?
    Deu 4:8 And what nation is there so great, that hath statutes and judgments so righteous as all this law, which I set before you this day?

    So you may say: Well Christ has given me an understanding greater then the laws of God, and well, I guess I must bow down to your great wisdom for whatever that is? You will say then, yes, God has given me His love which is beyond knowledge. Love God and Love your fellow man and that is understanding. I guess, then, you are not familiar to the old testament scriptures:

    Deu 10:12 And now, Israel, what doth the LORD thy God require of thee, but to fear the LORD thy God, to walk in all his ways, and to love him, and to serve the LORD thy God with all thy heart and with all thy soul,

    Deu 10:19 Love ye therefore the stranger: for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt.

    Lev 19:18 Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD.

    Loving your neighbor is not killing, not stealing, no adultery, no lying, and not coveting, and if you have obeyed those commands from the heart, my hats off to you.

    Loving God is more complicated, especially if your a Christian, because they're a lot more commandments to consider than what I listed. Christ said He came to fullfil the law and the prophets:

    Mat 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

    This makes doing the Love of God much more difficult to understand, because what does it actually mean to fulfill the law and the prophets. This can really involve some deep spiritual things such as what is written here:

    Col 1:24 Who now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up that which is behind of the afflictions of Christ in my flesh for his body's sake, which is the church:
    Col 1:25 Whereof I am made a minister, according to the dispensation of God which is given to me for you, to fulfil the word of God;

    A fulfilling of the Word of God makes for the difference between those who understand the Word and those sleeping in their delusion.

    I have many revelations concerning the prophecy of Daniel, and it is something I cannot express in short, and I am a little hesitant in showing these things on the internet. But seeing these things make you realize the truth about what Paul said:

    Eph 3:14 For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,
    Eph 3:15 Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named,
    Eph 3:16 That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man;
    Eph 3:17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,
    Eph 3:18 May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height;
    Eph 3:19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.


    What was the love of Christ that was so special, that He gave His life to obtain? A love that goes beyond knowledge and I then would say it is unspeakable but not without understanding. Speech is for teaching the children who are learning but the time will be fulfilled when there will be no need of one saying Know the Lord:

    Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

    Has anyone obtained this point yet. And by the way, where does the law of God require us to teach? Is that in the 5 commandments I listed earlier?

    Sincerely
    Hethatreadethit
     
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  2. frienden thalord

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    Would you agree that of faith, hope and charity. The greatest is Charity.
    but most have no idea what charity is and what it aint.
    it don't rejoice in inquity and it don't behave itself unseeminly.
    I bet you agree with this .
    will you with this also.
    man with man working that which is unseemingly.
    That aint charity. and ifwe aint got charity, it don't matter what we do, we lost.
     
  3. frienden thalord

    frienden thalord Well-Known Member

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    It is true that none of the wicked shall understand.
    sadly most in the churches do not understand a lot of things.
    Be blessed. for some reason I bet you know this too.
     
  4. Radrook

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    Well, that would appear to explain the almost unbelievable phenomenon of folks who are otherwise fully intellectually intact except when it comes to anything related to the Bible.

    The following scriptures are related to this matter:


    John 8:47
    Whoever belongs to God hears the words of God. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God."

    John 12:40
    New International Version
    "He has blinded their eyes and hardened their hearts, so they can neither see with their eyes, nor understand with their hearts, nor turn--and I would heal them."
     
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  5. Hethatreadethit

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    Christ said, "The love of many shall wax cold." The further we draw away from the commandments, the colder it gets. Remember though, what it says in Malachi:

    Mal 4:1 For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.
    Mal 4:2 But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.

    Were in the age of plastic and plastic does not abide well in the heat. A great purging, I believe is coming, and it begins with the return of light (judgment). It will get hot quick just as the sun comes up and starts to shine. That is: the spiritual morning is going to rise on the sinners of darkness.

    Rev 14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,
    Rev 14:7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.

    This shall be the THE MORNING, as the coming of the kingdom of GOD.

    Joe 2:1 Blow ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the day of the LORD cometh, for it is nigh at hand;
    Joe 2:2 A day of darkness and of gloominess, a day of clouds and of thick darkness, as the morning spread upon the mountains: a great people and a strong; there hath not been ever the like, neither shall be any more after it, even to the years of many generations.
    Joe 2:3 A fire devoureth before them; and behind them a flame burneth: the land is as the garden of Eden before them, and behind them a desolate wilderness; yea, and nothing shall escape them.
    Joe 2:4 The appearance of them is as the appearance of horses; and as horsemen, so shall they run.
    Joe 2:5 Like the noise of chariots on the tops of mountains shall they leap, like the noise of a flame of fire that devoureth the stubble, as a strong people set in battle array.
    Joe 2:6 Before their face the people shall be much pained: all faces shall gather blackness.
    Joe 2:7 They shall run like mighty men; they shall climb the wall like men of war; and they shall march every one on his ways, and they shall not break their ranks:

    The mountains of Armageddon which means: mountain gathering, and which have been gathered to their doom. Mountains being those who exalted themselves in a false righteousness. They will quickly dissolve because the light will show and reveal the truth concerning them. But those who awake and flee from unrighteousness may flee to the light.

    Psa 30:5 For his anger endureth but a moment; in his favour is life: weeping may endure for a night, but joy cometh in the morning.

    Sincerely
    Hethatreadethit
     
  6. Hethatreadethit

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    The Jewish leaders did not see it coming when Christ appeared, so I think established religion is Satan's handy work, put in place to draw away from the glory of the Almighty.
     
  7. miknik5

    miknik5 "Let not your heart be troubled"

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    Thank you
     
  8. Hethatreadethit

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    Your welcome, but my new post is truly a blessing I hope you will view.

    Sincerely
    Hethatreadethit
     
  9. miknik5

    miknik5 "Let not your heart be troubled"

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    The building of the temple?

    Do You place this before the final preaching of the GOSPEL by angels?
     
  10. Hethatreadethit

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    The preaching of the Gospel and the building of the temple are one and the same. Christ and His people are the temple, Christ being the chief corner stone.
     
  11. miknik5

    miknik5 "Let not your heart be troubled"

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    No I was talking about the earthly.temple


    You do believe it will be rebuilt, correct?

    And so, where do you place the building of that temple?

    Before the final preaching of the gospel

    Or after it?
     
  12. Hethatreadethit

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    I hate to burst your bubble but I was trying to say fasiciously that is what most people expect but are looking the wrong direction for the abomination of desolation is what has happened to the Church of God, being the truth.

    Dan 8:12 And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practised, and prospered.

    The Daily sacrifice that matters is the performing of God's will on Earth as in Heaven. If you are doing the will of God, you have ceased to do your will, and live by faith unto God. But what has happened, is that men have removed their ears from the truth (casting it down) and are doing their own will. God has cut off the goodness which came with doing His will.

    2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
    2Ti 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

    Casting down the truth to the ground is a reverting back to the carnal ways of man which is down on the earth, as compared to above (spiritual).

    Col 3:1 If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.
    Col 3:2 Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth.
    Col 3:3 For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.
    Col 3:4 When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.

    I would like to say more, but I have to get ready to go to work. I work at a golf course and they start near the break of day.

    Sincerely
    Hethatreadethit
     
  13. miknik5

    miknik5 "Let not your heart be troubled"

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    You hate to burst my bubble?
    As if I was hoping for a temple to be built

    That sir, is not my attitude about the building again of the earthly temple
     
  14. miknik5

    miknik5 "Let not your heart be troubled"

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    You asked, what does The Law of God require us to teach?

    It is already stated in Daniels prophecy regarding some of the wise will stumble so as to be made pure for the time of the end
     
  15. Hethatreadethit

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    The Jews building again that which Christ abolished would be an act of vanity. Though many really believe that this will happen, I think it is a smokescreen by Satan. If by chance that someone might understand the Daniel prophecy, then consider that as a sign that the end is near, for it seems as though God has the prophecy under lock and key until the time determined comes about. Sorry if I offended you.

    Sincerely:
    Hethatreadethit
     
  16. Hethatreadethit

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    The abomination of desolation is about the daily sacrifice operation taking place in the temple of God and that there will be an abomination that cast down the truth. Well the daily sacrifice was a burnt offering presented with the goodness offerings including wine, grain, and oil. God spoke in Hosea saying He willed that man have the knowledge of God rather than burnt offerings. Faith in the knowledge of the truth is how one abides in Christ, so if lies are substituted for the knowledge of the truth concerning God's will in Christ, it subverts the believers.

    I would like to say more but I have family duty's to fulfill. Talk to you later.

    Sincerely
    Hethatreadethit
     
  17. miknik5

    miknik5 "Let not your heart be troubled"

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    I believe that this will happen.
    And I believe that those who know THE TRUTH, will be killed trying to warn their jewish unbelieving "Violent men of the covenant" that what they are about to do is already an abomination in the sight of GOD.
     
  18. miknik5

    miknik5 "Let not your heart be troubled"

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    Are you considering GOD'S WILL in CHRIST on a personal level for the believer?
     
  19. Hethatreadethit

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    Where do you get the "violent men of the covenant" from?
     
  20. Hethatreadethit

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    I don't know exactly what you mean by personal level. I consider God's will the same for all people.
     
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