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Non Elect

Discussion in 'The Kitchen Sink' started by Inagony, Feb 21, 2020.

  1. Inagony

    Inagony New Member

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    Is it possible that those that are not elected are fallen angels? The more I think about it, the more I believe that it’s true. I don’t think God would reject someone before birth unless they had did something prior to living in this realm.
     
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  2. HTacianas

    HTacianas Well-Known Member

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    This may help you with that:

    "We believe the most good God to have from eternity predestinated unto glory those whom He has chosen, and to have consigned unto condemnation those whom He has rejected; but not so that He would justify the one, and consign and condemn the other without cause. For that would be contrary to the nature of God, who is the common Father of all, and no respecter of persons, and would have all men to be saved, and to come to the knowledge of the truth {1 Timothy 2:4}. But since He foreknew the one would make a right use of their free-will, and the other a wrong, He predestinated the one, or condemned the other."

    The Confession of Dositheus (Eastern Orthodox)
     
  3. Inagony

    Inagony New Member

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    No I’ve never been normal and I just didn’t understand. Like something was blocking it until I realized that I’m rejected by God. Still don’t really understand but feel quite soulless. Therefore probably not actually a full human.
     
  4. Jeshu

    Jeshu Bought by His Blood Supporter

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    No, fallen angels are not human and neither is their offspring in our hearts. Isaiah 57:1-4. All that sins and is wicked within us will certainly perish out of the human heart so that the sheep/elect can be saved.

    You who care about God and good things are not rejected by God, but sin living in you is rejected by God. So repent of your sin, also thinking bad things about God's election, and learn to understand that God's good life can only come alive in us when we are born again. This is a process that needs God's Spirit to convict and save us from our sins.

    Faith in God's love will bring you hope for better.
     
  5. Inagony

    Inagony New Member

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    I guess I somehow rejected for to long but I didn’t know I was rejecting.
     
  6. Jeshu

    Jeshu Bought by His Blood Supporter

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    For as long as you have breath The Lord will call you to repent from following the wicked and have His salvation ready for you to take on.

    Stop rejecting and start accepting God's salvation He is your Heavenly Father and loves you to serve Him instead of reject Him.

    Put your faith in His love rather than His wrath and see for yourself the difference Jesus makes in our lives.

    Peace.

    An invitation to The Chosen.

    God's Love will not take or will
    you to conform to rules or demand
    which imprison, enslave, burn or kill you.

    God's Love will not pervert what's Good
    The Lord loves truthfully Wise and Good.
    True Love was, is and always will be Good!

    In God's Love you are free to be right!
    In His love everything is good proper and kind.
    He loves all who love good and true to rule!

    His Love is caring, providing, and sharing.
    His Love always enjoys and protects good life.
    His love rules even when bad life has being in us!

    Hear Jesus call - 'Come join up with us all!
    Leave whatever ties you down and be free
    loving good life with all God's own to be.'

    To the rest in your heart God's asks
    how long will you tarry in the darkness?
    Please leave such bad existence within.

    For life must not, no never should, or would, or could,
    be forceful, rude, prideful, arrogant, selfish, lustful
    or otherwise be untrue to God's loving truth.

    Neither should life be hurting or ill,
    hungry, oppressed, despised, hated
    or otherwise have existence in wrong.

    Please hand your Bad Life over to Jesus
    Humbly ask for His Good Life back in return
    and go love God, self and neighbour with Joy.

    The Church knows that Jesus is coming soon
    All bad life will be our shameful past then,
    so please leave your bad life while you can!

    Love
     
  7. Oscarr

    Oscarr Senior Veteran Supporter

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    The common belief is that God reprobates those who reject Christ. The Scripture says that all those who come to Him He will in no wise cast out. Therefore, there is no way according to Scripture that anyone who turns to and accepts Christ will be rejected by God. The evidence of election is that the person believes and accepts the gospel of Christ and receives Him as Saviour and Lord.

    There are those who are concerned about election before receiving Christ, and wonder if Christ will receive them. But this is putting the cart before the horse. It is better to believe the promise, "Come unto Me all who labour and are heavy laden [with their sin] and I will give you rest, because My yoke is easy and My burden is light", and, "Come let us reason together; though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow." Upon believing these promises in God's Word, the person comes to Christ, puts his whole faith in His finished work on Calvary, and receives Him as Saviour and Lord. Then he gains the assurance that he is elected when the Spirit witnesses with his spirit that he is a child of God. That will definitely happen because the Scripture again say, "Those who receive Christ, God gives them the right to become the children of God."

    The assurance of election is based on the promises of God to mankind. The general promise is: "God so loved the world that He gave His only Son, so that whosoever believes in Him shall not perish but will have everlasting life." Notice that the Scripture says "whosoever", and not "the elect", because the invitation is extended to all people without restriction.

    It all depends on how people respond with their RSVP, which determines whether they are elected or not.
     
  8. Inagony

    Inagony New Member

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    I’m just empty. I believed and said some blasphemous things, not purposely. I don’t think Judas knew what he was doing or who he was. Please everyone who is willing pray for me.
     
  9. Oscarr

    Oscarr Senior Veteran Supporter

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    1 John 1:9 says that if we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

    It doesn't matter how many people pray for you, because the prayers themselves have no power to change your mind. Prayer is communicating our requests to God and having the faith that God will do what we ask Him. Your prayer will have a better effect than any others, because you are the one concerned about your status with God, and so He will be waiting for you to pray your own prayer. This is the promise to you:
    "Be no anxious about anything, but by prayer and supplication make your requests known to God, and the peace of God that passes all understanding will keep your heart and mind in Christ Jesus" (Philippians 4:6-7).
     
  10. Jeshu

    Jeshu Bought by His Blood Supporter

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    I have and will pray for you. Please don't heed your feelings about God that is not trustworthy at all. Depression can make all good life go away for example yet it is an illness not God who does that.

    You feel empty because your faith is on empty. You have no faith in God's love at all, you think you are doomed and that God hates you. This is where you go wrong. Faith in God's love brings true hope, once faith, love and hope grow you will not be empty any more.

    Try it brother. Try having faith in God's love for say 60 seconds and see what happens to you when you have faith in God's love for just a few seconds life will be more bearable already.

    i know what it feels like to be godforsaken and rock bottom, that is where i found Jesus after 7 years of suffering suicidal depression. i realised that Scripture is right when it says what you sow you shall harvest. i had sown years of misery and harvested years of misery yet when i began to sow good seeds then my harvest became good as well. Sowing God's love harvested me God's Kingdom.

    Put Your Faith in God's love brother.
     
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