Noah's Flood was 23 ft (Gen 7:20)

[AV1611VET]

That's AV's whole point. God hid or got rid of all the evidence of the flood... except for that evidence which he didn't hide or got rid of.

So, to clarify, if scientists find evidence of a global flood, then that proves his claim and if they don't find evidence of a global flood, then that proves his claim. Simple.

Well, close but no cigar.

In my opinion, they have found evidence -- (the White Cliffs of Dover) -- but don't recognize it as such.

 

[sandwiches]

Well, close but no cigar.

In my opinion, they have found evidence -- (the White Cliffs of Dover) -- but don't recognize it as such.

Like I said, evidence or no evidence, your claim is proven... at least to you.

 

[dawiyd]

Well, close but no cigar.

In my opinion, they have found evidence -- (the White Cliffs of Dover) -- but don't recognize it as such.

How/Why are the white cliffs of Dover evidence for the global flood.

 

[Orogeny]

AV, is it a coincidence that the deposits forming the White Cliffs appear to have occurred by natural processes or did your god do that on purpose?

If they do not appear to have occurred by natural processes (as you claim, since scientists have 'misinterpreted' them), what process formed them, and what evidence (empirical, please) could lead scientists to the correct answer?

 

[cerad]

Either the King James translators or the American Standard translators got it wrong. It may seem like a simple mistranslation, but it means the difference between a global flood and a local Mesopotamian flood.

Isn't the Holy Spirit Editor supposed to prevent mistranslations?

 

[AV1611VET]

AV, is it a coincidence that the deposits forming the White Cliffs appear to have occurred by natural processes...

No.

Science works hard to make what they see fit what they think, and they have computers -- (and a very intelligent programmer) -- to assist them.

... or did your god do that on purpose?

I could rake leaves into a pile in the corner of my yard, and if a wind came up, it would look like they were blown there.

 

[Belk]

No.

Science works hard to make what they see fit what they think, and they have computers -- (and a very intelligent programmer) -- to assist them.

I could rake leaves into a pile in the corner of my yard, and if a wind came up, it would look like they were blown there.

Odd, since the first geologists to look for data on a world wide flood where dedicated christian who worked under the assumption the flood was a real event and they would find data supporting that theory. But then, they where intellectually honest and admitted that the data did not match what they should find.

 

[mklhawley]

next, analyze how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.

...and your point?

 

[pgp_protector]

Odd, since the first geologists to look for data on a world wide flood where dedicated christian who worked under the assumption the flood was a real event and they would find data supporting that theory. But then, they where intellectually honest and admitted that the data did not match what they should find.

Some have a problem right their though.

 

[AV1611VET]

Odd, since the first geologists to look for data on a world wide flood where dedicated christian who worked under the assumption the flood was a real event and they would find data supporting that theory. But then, they where intellectually honest and admitted that the data did not match what they should find.

Too bad -- and I'm sure they gave up after they realized their tools were too inadequate to find what they were searching for.

Just like those who went out and searched for Elijah, after Elisha told them not to.

History repeats itself, doesn't it.

 

[Nathan Poe]

Too bad -- and I'm sure they gave up after they realized their tools were too inadequate to find what they were searching for.

Just like those who went out and searched for Elijah, after Elisha told them not to.

History repeats itself, doesn't it.

As does mythology.

 

[Belk]

Too bad -- and I'm sure they gave up after they realized their tools were too inadequate to find what they were searching for.

Just like those who went out and searched for Elijah, after Elisha told them not to.

History repeats itself, doesn't it.

Yes it does. Science tries to move forward and religious people try to hold it back because they are afraid it might contradict what they cling to as the ultimate truth. Isn't it amazing how those who are so certain they have the ultimate truth are so unwilling to put it to the test?

 

[AV1611VET]

Isn't it amazing how those who are so certain they have the ultimate truth are so unwilling to put it to the test?

We don't have to clarify 'truth' with an adjective though.

 

[Belk]

We don't have to clarify 'truth' with an adjective though.

You better start clarifying it with something.

 

[AV1611VET]

You better start clarifying it with something.

Will a picture do?

John 17:17 ¶ Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.

 

[dawiyd]

Will a picture do?

John 17:17 ¶ Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.

So by "thy word", you mean the bible... as in the whole of it?

 

[Targ]

next, analyze how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.

...and your point?

LOL, you're getting reps for that.

 

[Targ]

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Is there any reason, besides desperate necessity, to believe this?

After all, if God cleaned up the mess, there'd be nothing left -- every flood geologist who ever claimed to have found evidence would be dead wrong (or they'd be smarter than God.)

Yep, it's all just desperate necessity. It's amazing how dogmatically AVET can declare something like this to be true and expects us to regard it as obvious, despite the Bible not even mentioning anything about it.

 

[Belk]

Will a picture do?

John 17:17 ¶ Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.

Great. Now you just need to find a way to determine which of the 38,000 different ways of reading the bible is correct. Let us know when you all have it figured out and we can start testing it from there.

 

[Nathan Poe]

We don't have to clarify 'truth' with an adjective though.

You don't even have to confirm it with a single fact -- just keep chanting.

of course, anything else would require effort.