No, the Nazi platform did not echo the Democratic platform, as Donald Trump Jr. said

[tulc]

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-...zi-platform-echo-democratic-platform-donald-/

Trump Jr. said, "You see the Nazi platform from the early 1930s ... look at it compared to the (Democratic Party) platform of today, you're saying, 'Man, those things are awfully similar,' to a point where it's actually scary."

Only a small number of elements of the two platforms are clearly similar, and those are so uncontroversial that they appear in the Republican platform as well. The vast majority of planks in the Nazi platform not only don’t appear in the Democratic platform, but are wholly antithetical to it. We rate this Pants on Fire.

tulc(look who got their own pants on fire!)

 

[JackRT]

Junior is as politically ignorant as his daddy.

 

[HTacianas]

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-...zi-platform-echo-democratic-platform-donald-/

tulc(look who got their own pants on fire!)

Neither does anything Trump has had to say but that doesn't stop people from making the claim.

 

[drjean]

Some people just don't know how to compare history with current facts.

I distinctly recall Mr Trump being previously berated for having a copy of Mein Kampf by his bedside. How many times have you read it? I thought so. I am sure Mr Trump not only read it but understood it and studied it, as the NWO follows it. Whether that's part of your party or not is up to you.

 

[Basil the Great]

I thought for certain that Donald, Jr.'s comments would create a firestorm in the media, but apparently not so.

 

[tulc]

Some people just don't know how to compare history with current facts.

Cool, could you explain how that applies to the OP?

I distinctly recall Mr Trump being previously berated for having a copy of Mein Kampf by his bedside.

Oh, I thought it was Hitlers speeches, not Mein Kampf.

How many times have you read it?

Once. I read it while I was reading "Rise and Fall of the Third Reich".

I thought so.

Oh, how many times have you read it? It didn't have much impact on me.

I am sure Mr Trump not only read it but understood it and studied it, as the NWO follows it.

...getting pointers on how to talk about any one in the press that prints things he doesn't like?

Whether that's part of your party or not is up to you.

So you'd say the Party that has actual Nazi's running for office in it would be the Party to be careful of?
tulc(is just wondering)

 

[tulc]

I thought for certain that Donald, Jr.'s comments would create a firestorm in the media, but apparently not so.

Well...you know what they call when when someone in the Trump family compares the people who oppose President Trump to "Just like the Nazi Party in the 30's!"? They call it Friday.
tulc(just another day of the dumpster fire that is President Trumps America)

 

[The Barbarian]

Some people just don't know how to compare history with current facts.

I distinctly recall Mr Trump being previously berated for having a copy of Mein Kampf by his bedside. How many times have you read it? I thought so. I am sure Mr Trump not only read it but understood it and studied it, as the NWO follows it.

I've read it. It's self-pitying garbage. So bad that the Nazis actually discouraged Germans from reading it:
Hitler began to distance himself from the book after becoming chancellor of Germany in 1933. He dismissed it as "fantasies behind bars" that were little more than a series of articles for the Völkischer Beobachter, and later told Hans Frank that "If I had had any idea in 1924 that I would have become Reich chancellor, I never would have written the book."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mein_Kampf

It's pretty much about how wonderful and insightful Hitler found himself to be, and how stupid and uncooperative almost everyone else was.

George Orwell's review says it best:
...I recommend especially the photograph at the beginning of Hurst and Blackett’s edition, which shows Hitler in his early Brownshirt days. It is a pathetic, dog-like face, the face of a man suffering under intolerable wrongs. In a rather more manly way it reproduces the expression of innumerable pictures of Christ crucified, and there is little doubt that that is how Hitler sees himself. The initial, personal cause of his grievance against the universe can only be guessed at; but at any rate the grievance is here. He is the martyr, the victim, Prometheus chained to the rock, the self-sacrificing hero who fights single-handed against impossible odds. If he were killing a mouse he would know how to make it seem like a dragon. One feels, as with Napoleon, that he is fighting against destiny, that he can’t win, and yet that he somehow deserves to. The attraction of such a pose is of course enormous; half the films that one sees turn upon some such theme.
https://bookmarks.reviews/george-orwells-1940-review-of-mein-kampf/

If the description sounds like another national leader, there's a good reason. Hitler was a narcissist, too.

There is no question that Hitler's personality exuded pathological narcissism or what I have called psychopathic narcissism (see my prior post), and may have met modern diagnostic criteria for narcissistic personality disorder.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/evil-deeds/201412/how-mad-was-hitler

 

[Albion]

Two Socialist parties. Despite the differences, there have to be similarities.

And there are.

 

[JackRT]

Two Socialist parties. Despite the differences, there have to be similarities.

And there are.

The Nazi party in spite of its name "National Socialist" was certainly not a socialist party the first people they rounded up were the communists and trade unionists. They were a fascist party first and foremost.

"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.

We can easily perceive elements of that political philosophy in US politics today.

Sinclair Lewis in "It Can't Happen Here," (1935) wrote --- "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross."

 

[Albion]

The Nazi party in spite of its name "National Socialist" was certainly not a socialist party the first people they rounded up were the communists and trade unionists.

Yeh, the NSDAP was a socialist party. The fact that the Communists were on their hit list (along with many other groups) only testifies to the rivalry that often exists among members of the same family. These were the two top contenders in the 1932 elections which brought the Nazis to prominence.

 

[The Barbarian]

It was a socialist party when Hitler joined it, but it was a full-fledged right-wing party by the time he became chancellor. He forged an alliance with German businessmen to destroy socialism in Germany.

 

[Yonny Costopoulis]

It's pretty much about how wonderful and insightful Hitler found himself to be, and how stupid and uncooperative almost everyone else was.

This sounds in exact measure like one of the politician today.

If the description sounds like another national leader, there's a good reason. Hitler was a narcissist, too.

There is no question that Hitler's personality exuded pathological narcissism or what I have called psychopathic narcissism (see my prior post), and may have met modern diagnostic criteria for narcissistic personality disorder.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/evil-deeds/201412/how-mad-was-hitler

"Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it." George Santayana

 

[Albion]

Santayana's comment is often heard...and for good reason. History does tend to repeat itself, but especially when people do not know history.

What we are discussing here--the mistaken notion that the National Socialist Party was not a statist, all controlling, totalitarian movement much like Marxist Communism--is a good example of that.

 

[Yonny Costopoulis]

Santayana's comment is often heard...and for good reason. History does tend to repeat itself, but especially when people do not know history.

I agree as we are watching history repeat itself and people who do not know history ignore it and also refuse to learn it.

Enemy of the people - Wikipedia
The Soviet Union made extensive use of the term (Russian language: враг народа, "vrag naroda"), as it fit well with the idea that the people were in control. The term was used by Vladimir Lenin after coming to power, as early as in the decree of 28 November 1917

In his 1956 speech denouncing Stalin’s cult of personality, Stalin's successor Nikita Khrushchev called for an end to the use of the term, stating "the formula 'enemy of the people' was specifically introduced for the purpose of physically annihilating such individuals" who disagreed with Stalin.

Regarding the Nazi plan to relocate all Jews to Madagascar, the Nazi tabloid Der Stürmer wrote that "The Jews don't want to go to Madagascar – They cannot bear the climate. Jews are pests and disseminators of diseases. In whatever country they settle and spread themselves out, they produce the same effects as are produced in the human body by germs. ... In former times sane people and sane leaders of the peoples made short shrift of enemies of the people.

On February 17, 2017, President Donald Trump said on Twitter, "The FAKE NEWS media (failing @nytimes, @NBCNews, @ABC, @CBS, @CNN) is not my enemy, it is the enemy of the American People!"

 

[The Barbarian]

What we are discussing here--the mistaken notion that the National Socialist Party was not a statist, all controlling, totalitarian movement much like Marxist Communism--is a good example of that.

It's not just Marxism. On the right, fascism is statist, all controlling, and totalitarian. Hitler made common cause with the industrialists, which is why he turned his back on socialism and adopted fascism.

 

[The Barbarian]

On February 17, 2017, President Donald Trump said on Twitter, "The FAKE NEWS media (failing @nytimes, @NBCNews, @ABC, @CBS, @CNN) is not my enemy, it is the enemy of the American People!"

All dictators (and would-be dictators) think alike, it seems. Whether they are on the left or the right, they are all pretty much the same.

 

[JackRT]

"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.

 

[tulc]

Yeh, the NSDAP was a socialist party. The fact that the Communists were on their hit list (along with many other groups) only testifies to the rivalry that often exists among members of the same family. These were the two top contenders in the 1932 elections which brought the Nazis to prominence.

If they were first and formost socialist wouldn't it have been "SNDAP"? By that I mean the thing they were actually interested in was "N" part not the "S" part. I've never understood why nationalists of all stripes never seem to want to claim the most successful Nationalist movement in history, they always seem to want to make it a socialist party instead.
tulc(supposes he'll never know)

 

[Yonny Costopoulis]

If they were first and formost socialist wouldn't it have been "SNDAP"? By that I mean the thing they were actually interested in was "N" part not the "S" part. I've never understood why nationalists of all stripes never seem to want to claim the most successful Nationalist movement in history, they always seem to want to make it a socialist party instead.
tulc(supposes he'll never know)

I think maybe for same reason the group led by Steve Bannon renamed themselves from White Supremacists to "alt-right".