No Lives Matter

[Inkfingers]

...because all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and none can deserve salvation but only ever be saved by an act of UNDESERVED grace from God.

To say otherwise would be Pride, would it not?

 

[grasping the after wind]

...because all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and none can deserve salvation but only ever be saved by an act of UNDESERVED grace from God.

To say otherwise would be Pride, would it not?

God loves us enough to give us His undeserved Grace. To me that means our lives matter.

 

[Inkfingers]

God loves us enough to give us His undeserved Grace. To me that means our lives matter.

No it doesn't.

If they ALL mattered, ALL would be saved.

It's grace because NONE of them actually matter.

 

[grasping the after wind]

No it doesn't.

If they ALL mattered, ALL would be saved.

It's grace because NONE of them actually matter.

By your logic , IF none mattered then none would be saved.

 

[Inkfingers]

By your logic , IF none mattered then none would be saved.

Which part of 'undeserved' is difficult to understand?

 

[ReesePiece23]

God doesn't deal in moral blackmail. And before I'm quoted with threats, hear me: I don't care. That ain't the God I came to know!

 

[Hammster]

...because all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and none can deserve salvation but only ever be saved by an act of UNDESERVED grace from God.

To say otherwise would be Pride, would it not?

My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me; and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out of My hand. My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand.
— John 10:27-29

 

[nonaeroterraqueous]

...because all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and none can deserve salvation but only ever be saved by an act of UNDESERVED grace from God.

All lives, whether eternally damned or eternally saved have eternal consequence, and therefore matter (saying that someone's life matters isn't necessarily a good thing. A life can matter in a negative way).

...which is why the diamond in your ring matters more than the paper cup in your hand. It's also why the scratch made by that ring on your window matters more than the leak dribbling from the cup (the consequence is more permanent).

 

[Broken Fence]

John 3:16 Sounds like every human life matters to God.

 

[eleos1954]

...because all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and none can deserve salvation but only ever be saved by an act of UNDESERVED grace from God.

To say otherwise would be Pride, would it not?

by the grace of God salvation is a gift and is available to anyone who sincerely accepts it and becomes a follower of Christ.

 

[Aussie Pete]

...because all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and none can deserve salvation but only ever be saved by an act of UNDESERVED grace from God.

To say otherwise would be Pride, would it not?

Every life matters. While all are sinners, if they did not matter to God, He would not have come to save us. Yes, it's undeserved. But Jesus died for all mankind. Who are we to dismiss the people that Jesus thought worth dying for?

 

[Mr. M]

A Life Only Matters by the Will of God, including the Son of Man.

John 5:30. I can of Myself do nothing. As I hear, I judge; and My judgment is righteous, because:
I do not seek My own will but the will of the Father who sent Me.

Colossians 3:
1 If then you were raised with Christ, seek those things which are above,
where Christ is, sitting at the right hand of God.
2 Set your mind on things above, not on things on the earth.
3 For you died, and your life is hidden with Christ in God.
4 When Christ who is our life appears, then you also will appear with Him in glory

John 3:7. Do not marvel that I said to you, You must be born again.

John 6:63. It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing.
The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life.

1 Corinthians 15:50. Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit
the kingdom of God; nor does corruption inherit incorruption.

John 5:21. For as the Father raises the dead and gives life, even so
the Son gives life to whom He wills.

John 5:26. For as the Father has life in Himself, so He has granted
the Son to have life in Himself.

John 6:37. All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and
the one who comes to Me I will by no means cast out.

Matthew 11:27. All things have been delivered to Me by My Father,
and no one knows the Son except the Father.
Nor does anyone know the Father except the Son,
and the one to whom the Son wills to reveal Him.

 

[com7fy8]

No Lives Matter...because all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and none can deserve salvation but only ever be saved by an act of UNDESERVED grace from God.

To say otherwise would be Pride, would it not?

Well, it is true how God's word says people living selfishly are "deserving of death" > Romans 1:32.

Plus, Jesus warns >

"He who loves his life will lose it," in John 12:25.

And >

"God resists the proud" > in James 4:6 and in 1 Peter 5:5.

So, yes it would be pride having me boast that I can get myself to do what makes me deserving of God's blessing; plus it would be pride having me feel entitled to have rights to live selfishly. But if I live for myself, does this mean my life does not matter to God?

In Luke 9:51-56 we see what happened when John and James were ready to have people killed because they refused Jesus > Jesus said >

"You do not know what spirit you are of. For the Son of Man did not come to destroy men's lives but to save them." (in Luke 9:51-56)

So, even though people do themselves in and do what helps to get themselves killed because of their living selfishly . . . and even if they deserve to die because of not living for God . . . they matter to Jesus.

Jesus died for us, because we matter to Him.

But I can look down on ones who get killed because they were living selfishly and foolishly. But this is pride, also. Yes, people can in pride feel they are so entitled, so due rights so they can live their selfish lives, but my way of looking down on them is also evil . . . conceited . . . against Jesus Himself.

Instead, I need to have hope in prayer for any and all people > love "hopes all things" (in 1 Corinthians 13:7). And 1 Timothy 2:1-4 says to pray for any and all people. And we in Jesus, then, have power with God to get people blessed, in spite of how they do help to get themselves killed and get their lives more and more ruined. Ones are being impossible, not at all seeing how they are spoiling themselves and their lives; but with God we are the ones who can pray for them, and God can use our good example to help people.

 

[Mr. M]

...because all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and none can deserve salvation but only ever be saved by an act of UNDESERVED grace from God.

To say otherwise would be Pride, would it not?

A Life Only Matters by the Will of God, including the Son of Man.

John 5:30. I can of Myself do nothing. As I hear, I judge; and My judgment is righteous, because:
I do not seek My own will but the will of the Father who sent Me.

Colossians 3:
1 If then you were raised with Christ, seek those things which are above,
where Christ is, sitting at the right hand of God.
2 Set your mind on things above, not on things on the earth.
3 For you died, and your life is hidden with Christ in God.
4 When Christ who is our life appears, then you also will appear with Him in glory

John 3:7. Do not marvel that I said to you, You must be born again.

John 6:63. It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing.
The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life.

1 Corinthians 15:50. Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit
the kingdom of God; nor does corruption inherit incorruption.

John 5:21. For as the Father raises the dead and gives life, even so
the Son gives life to whom He wills.

John 5:26. For as the Father has life in Himself, so He has granted
the Son to have life in Himself.

John 6:37. All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and
the one who comes to Me I will by no means cast out.

Matthew 11:27. All things have been delivered to Me by My Father,
and no one knows the Son except the Father.
Nor does anyone know the Father except the Son,
and the one to whom the Son wills to reveal Him.

 

[Mr. M]

So, yes it would be pride having me boast that I can get myself to do what makes me deserving of God's blessing; plus it would be pride having me feel entitled to have rights to live selfishly. But if I live for myself, does this mean my life does not matter to God?

1 Corinthians 4:7. For who makes you differ from another? And what do you have that you did not receive? Now if you did indeed receive it, why do you boast as if you had not received it?

 

[Shrewd Manager]

God loves mankind with a depth of passion and commitment that we can only begin to fathom. Consider the gift of His only begotten son, for He so loved the world. Consider His patience, kindness, grace and mercy lavished on us every moment.

You better believe we matter to God. Right down to the last sparrow.

 

[ClementofA]

No Lives Matter

By that statement are you implying that the beings God created are of no value to Him?

If no created being matters to God, then why did He create them & why did He send Christ to die for them & save them?





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[ClementofA]

My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me; and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out of My hand. My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand.
— John 10:27-29

John 10 Does Not Support Calvinism

Though they can still jump out of His hand of their own free will & be lost.

A better translation is:

John 10:27 My sheep are hearing My voice, and I know them, and they are following Me." 28 And I am giving them life eonian, and they should by no means be perishing for the eon, and no one shall be snatching them out of My hand." 29 My Father, Who has given them to Me, is greater than all, and no one is able to be snatching them out of My Father's hand. (CLV)

Those who believe in this life get the special(cf. 1 Tim.4:10-11) salvation called "life eonian" (John 10:27-29; Mt.25:46), life in the coming millenial eon. OTOH unbelievers will be cast into "hell" until they also become saved. For God is the Saviour of all, "ESPECIALLY" of those presently believing:

1 Tim.4:10 (for for this are we toiling and being reproached), that we rely on the living God, Who is the Saviour of all mankind, 11 especially of believers.

 

[ClementofA]

God loves mankind with a depth of passion and commitment that we can only begin to fathom. Consider the gift of His only begotten son, for He so loved the world. Consider His patience, kindness, grace and mercy lavished on us every moment.

You better believe we matter to God. Right down to the last sparrow.

Even the sparrows matter to God:

New International Version
So don't be afraid; you are worth more than many sparrows.

New Living Translation
So don’t be afraid; you are more valuable to God than a whole flock of sparrows.

English Standard Version
Fear not, therefore; you are of more value than many sparrows.

Berean Study Bible
So do not be afraid; you are worth more than many sparrows.

Berean Literal Bible
Therefore you should not fear; you are worth more than many sparrows.

New American Standard Bible
"So do not fear; you are more valuable than many sparrows.

New King James Version
Do not fear therefore; you are of more value than many sparrows.

King James Bible
Fear ye not therefore, ye are of more value than many sparrows.

 

[Hammster]

John 10 Does Not Support Calvinism

Though they can still jump out of His hand of their own free will & be lost.

A better translation is:

John 10:27 My sheep are hearing My voice, and I know them, and they are following Me." 28 And I am giving them life eonian, and they should by no means be perishing for the eon, and no one shall be snatching them out of My hand." 29 My Father, Who has given them to Me, is greater than all, and no one is able to be snatching them out of My Father's hand. (CLV)

Those who believe in this life get the special(cf. 1 Tim.4:10-11) salvation called "life eonian" (John 10:27-29; Mt.25:46), life in the coming millenial eon. OTOH unbelievers will be cast into "hell" until they also become saved. For God is the Saviour of all, "ESPECIALLY" of those presently believing:

1 Tim.4:10 (for for this are we toiling and being reproached), that we rely on the living God, Who is the Saviour of all mankind, 11 especially of believers.

Wow, okay. I hadn’t mentioned Calvinism.