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No Compromise at the Border.

Discussion in 'American Politics' started by Doveaman, Jan 4, 2019.

  1. Doveaman

    Doveaman Re-Created, Not Evolved.

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    The question is often ask in the news media:

    “Who will compromise on the border wall, Trump or Nancy?”

    But, as far as I can tell, there is no room for compromise in this dispute.

    The dispute is about paying for the wall or not paying for the wall.

    There is no middle ground here for compromise.

    Either the wall will be paid for or the wall will not be paid for.

    So the only way this dispute will end is if one side folds completely and totally gives in to the other.

    This dispute over the border wall will not end in compromise, it will only end when one side completely folds.

    Will it be Trump or will it be Nancy?

    We may have to wait two more years to find out.
     
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  2. LoAmmi

    LoAmmi Dispassionate

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    I'm kind of hoping that the Federal workers win in their lawsuit that would stop the government from requiring them to work without pay. Let the airports shut down because TSA isn't working and you'll see a deal made that hour.
     
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  3. W2L

    W2L Well-Known Member

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    The wall isnt a bad idea. At least its a step in the direction of answering the illegal immigration problem. At least Trump is trying to do something about it.Whats Nancy doing about this problem? Nothing that i know of.
     
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  4. Dave-W

    Dave-W Grandparent of six grandchildren, #7 on the way! Supporter

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    I really do not want to be out of work for 2 years ....
     
  5. Doveaman

    Doveaman Re-Created, Not Evolved.

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    Nor do I. :)
     
  6. FenderTL5

    FenderTL5 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    As I see it the Democrats have already compromised, offering 1.3 billion (I think it was) for border security already. Far short of the 5+B that Trump is asking for but not a goose-egg.
     
  7. cow451

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    Why not find the government and keep negotiating on immigration policy and reform? Oh, wait. I forgot that Trump was President and can’t make a deal. Never mind.
     
  8. cow451

    cow451 Individual-2 Supporter

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    How long before unpaid workers walk off the job? How long before furloughed workers begin marching with the unpaid that walk off the job? How long before GOP legislators get fed up with he who shall not be named? How long before Congress gives him a funding bill that is veto proof?

    These questions and more on the next episode of Pence for President
     
  9. W2L

    W2L Well-Known Member

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    Oh wait, i forgot that politics are hopelessly deadlocked and futile. Voters are like sheep, both sides. There is only one shepherd though. Is that shepherd divided like politics?
     
  10. Belk

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    We could compromise by agreeing that border security is important and taking the advice of experts on how to mitigate the issues. The wall is nothing more then a distraction.
     
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  11. FenderTL5

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    It's highly unlikely, however, I would like to see the Democratic led House introduce a bill with the exact language of the Border Security, Economic Opportunity, and Immigration Modernization Act of 2013 which was introduced in the Senate by Chuck Schumer and passed with bi-partisan support by a vote of 68-32.
    The 2013 Bill, after passing in the Senate, died in the GOP led House because Boehner refused to call the bill.
    The Democratic House should pass a new piece of legislation with the exact language and send it to the GOP Senate/Trump to see if they are really serious about Immigration Reform or if the "wall" is nothing more than posturing.
     
  12. W2L

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    As others have said, walls have been successful in other nations.
     
  13. SummerMadness

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    Walls do a great job at stopping planes and overstayed visas.
     
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  14. Belk

    Belk Senior Member

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    Which ones?
     
  15. cow451

    cow451 Individual-2 Supporter

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    This is a test of the American Presidential system.
    If this were an actual President he would work with Congress and move forward.
    We now return you to your regular echo chamber.
     
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  16. cow451

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    Name one first world Republic that America might emulate.
     
  17. W2L

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    I'll withdraw my earlier statement. Debating its futile because both sides are sharply and hopelessly divided. When i see what it does to people, it makes me sad.
     
  18. cow451

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    Can’t name one? Just say so.
     
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  19. W2L

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    I dont want to debate whether or not only republics have good national security. I dont want to debate at all, thats why i withdrew my comment. Take it how you will though.
     
  20. LoAmmi

    LoAmmi Dispassionate

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    Israel is the go to.
     
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