No collusion in 2016 between Trump campaign and Russia: Senate Intelligence Committee report

[98cwitr]

No collusion in 2016 between Trump campaign and Russia: Senate Intelligence Committee report

The Senate Select Committee on Intelligence found no evidence that the Trump campaign colluded with Russia to influence the 2016 presidential election, but campaign members’ frequent contact with people linked to the Kremlin raised counterintelligence concerns, according to a bipartisan report released Tuesday.

The fifth and final volume of the panel’s report on Russian meddling in the 2016 election largely mirrored the conclusions of special counsel Robert Mueller’s probe, which also failed to show a Trump-Russia conspiracy.

 

[pescador]

What else would one expect from the (Republican-led) Senate? While Trump may have escaped the exact legal definition of "collusion" there is more than enough evidence to show that he and his people welcomed Russian (illegal) assistance during the 2106 campaign. Why else would he have said, "Russia, if you're listening..." and his closest friends and advisors found guilty?

 

[DaisyDay]

You read a different final report than I did, if that's your takeaway.

Link to Final Report - read it for yourselves.

From NPR:

Senate Report: Former Trump Aide Paul Manafort Shared Campaign Info With Russia
Former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort passed internal Trump campaign information to a Russian intelligence officer during the 2016 election, a new bipartisan Senate report concludes.

The findings draw a direct line between the president's former campaign chairman and Russian intelligence during the 2016 campaign.

For example, when the Trump campaign was made aware that The Washington Post would be publishing a copy of the now-infamous Access Hollywood tape, word got to Trump confidant Roger Stone — who tried to get a message to WikiLeaks through an intermediary so that it would publish hacked Democratic Party emails immediately.

 

[durangodawood]

No collusion in 2016 between Trump campaign and Russia: Senate Intelligence Committee report

The Senate Intelligence Committee's report describes Manfort's frequent associations during the campaign with Konstantin Kilimnik (a Russian intelligence agent), as a “grave counterintelligence threat”. You can find this in pretty much ALL the reporting on this matter.

Manafort was Trump's campaign manager at the time... What the heck is going on here, people?

 

[Fantine]

That's what my state's (as opposed to MY) Senator said, too. "No collusion. Move on."

So I looked to see what Mark Warner wrote (exactly the opposite). And then I found a few articles.

This one talks about Trump's long term Russian business partnerships--sex traffickers, criminals, racketeers, extortionists, kidnappers. They're listed here. Most notable is Felix Sater (listed first) and Aras Agalarov and his pop-singer son, Emin, hosts of the 2013 Miss Universe Pageant (guilty of every crime in the book, and maybe a few we haven't heard of.) From Forbes Magazine, a reliable source.

A new report from the U.S. Senate Select Committee on Intelligence offers a damning portrait of the people Donald Trump chose as his partners for potential projects in Russia. They include individuals with alleged connections to the mob, to Vladimir Putin and to human trafficking. Trump’s Business Partners Allegedly Involved In Human Trafficking, Mafia Matters, Probable Money Laundering

The Senate Intelligence Committee actually expanded on a lot of the information found in the Mueller Report (thank goodness Mueller ordered his research to be saved until Trump is no longer president). A Senate Intelligence Committee report reveals damning new information about Trump's Russia ties

 

[MIDutch]

No collusion in 2016 between Trump campaign and Russia: Senate Intelligence Committee report

Nah.

trump merely innocently asked for help finding "the emails" (on national TV no less) in order to destroy Clinton's presidential bid, which Russia almost immediately supplied. Russia offered to help with the election (supplying massive amounts of social media disinformation), which the trump campaign gladly accepted. Various foreign intelligence services warned the US about Russian interference in the 2016 election (including actually having live video feeds and real time email access of the Russian intelligence agency running the interference) which the trump administration happily ignored. Various groups of individuals from the trump campaign and Russian intelligence talked it over a bunch of times in meetings around the world. Numerous individuals were indicted and convicted of various crimes concerning the contacts or lying about the contacts ...

but, yeah, it was all just coinckidink.

 

[wing2000]

....look dad, a letter (and gifts) from Putin!

 

[Albion]

No collusion in 2016 between Trump campaign and Russia: Senate Intelligence Committee report

That's right, but the "RESIST!" folks are still making the same old false claims about Russia. Only now that the whole hoax has fallen flat and been shown to have been done by people deliberately misleading various courts, the story has simply been reworded a bit.

Now the idea is to make it seem that a Russian attempt to hack that did not change any votes is the same as the claim that Trump and Putin were in cahoots, etc.

 

[wing2000]

That's right, but the "RESIST!" folks are still making the same old false claims about Russia.

Is that what the Senate Intelligence Committee was doing?

 

[Albion]

Is that what the Senate Intelligence Committee was doing?

No, but it was exactly what the FBI and other government operatives did in conjunction with the Hillary Clinton campaign.

 

[wing2000]

No, but it was exactly what the FBI and other government operatives did in conjunction with the Hillary Clinton campaign.

"(U) The Committee found that Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered the Russian effort to hack computer networks and accounts affiliated with the Democratic Party and leak information damaging to Hillary Clinton and her campaign for president. Moscow's intent was to harm the Clinton Campaign, tarnish an expected Clinton presidential administration, help the Trump Campaign after Trump became the presumptive Republican nominee, and undermine the U.S. democratic process."

https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/documents/report_volume5.pdf

 

[Fantine]

There was "No collusion," just dozens and dozens of "contacts" between the Trump campaign and Russia by recently convicted felons like Manafort.

Contacts? Collusion? Isn't it a matter of semantics? Or, at best, traipsing perilously close to a legal definition of collusion but being shrewd enough to narrowly avoid it?

One can remain in the bounds of law and still be unethical and immoral--and every so often Trump staffers manage it. The rest of the time they get the AG and the president's hordes of lawyers to shield them.

 

[MIDutch]

No, but it was exactly what the FBI and other government operatives did in conjunction with the Hillary Clinton campaign.

Odd that right-wing conservatives don't have a Republican lead Senate Intelligence Committee report detailing all of those allegations, isn't it?

Oh, wait. I forgot, MAGA supporters have QAnon, Breitbart, OAN and Infowars as sources, don't they?

 

[durangodawood]

That's right, but the "RESIST!" folks are still making the same old false claims about Russia. Only now that the whole hoax has fallen flat and been shown to have been done by people deliberately misleading various courts, the story has simply been reworded a bit.

Now the idea is to make it seem that a Russian attempt to hack that did not change any votes is the same as the claim that Trump and Putin were in cahoots, etc.

Right. Like Manafort was just some rando.... and not the Trump 2016 campaign manager.

 

[Albion]

Odd that right-wing conservatives don't have a Republican lead Senate Intelligence Committee report detailing all of those allegations, isn't it?

Oh, wait. I forgot, MAGA supporters have QAnon, Breitbart, OAN and Infowars as sources, don't they?

That's quite a rundown on current left-wing mythology and conspiracy theories. Wow.

 

[DaisyDay]

No, but it was exactly what the FBI and other government operatives did in conjunction with the Hillary Clinton campaign.

It was the sustained leaking of the DNC emails, which many people confused with Clinton's emails from her server, and the head of the FBI announcing, contrary to department rules, two weeks before the election that the FBI was reopening the investigation of her emails while, at the same time, keeping entirely mum about the ongoing investigation into Donald's campaign people's repeated illicit contacts with the Russians that sank her campaign.

 

[KCfromNC]

Odd that right-wing conservatives don't have a Republican lead Senate Intelligence Committee report detailing all of those allegations, isn't it?

Maybe Donald's people are still busy trying to find the names of all of the illegal voters for Clinton.

 

[MIDutch]

That's quite a rundown on current left-wing mythology and conspiracy theories. Wow.

So now it's a "mythology" or "conspiracy theory" to point out that there was a Republican lead Senate Intelligence Committee report on trump's ties to Russian operatives leading up to the 2016 election?

Facts just aren't a thing in the far right wing world.

 

[Albion]

So now it's a "mythology" or "conspiracy theory" to point out that there was a Republican lead Senate Intelligence Committee report on trump's ties to Russian operatives leading up to the 2016 election?

Facts just aren't a thing in the far right wing world.

Which of those do you want to discuss--my comment or your conception of some "far right wing world?"

 

[DaisyDay]

Which of those do you want to discuss--my comment or your conception of some "far right wing world?"

Why you claim that the findings in the final Senate Intelligence Committee Report are "mythology" or "conspiracy theories"?