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NJ Rep cites Constitution to avoid swearing in GOP "Traitors."

Discussion in 'American Politics' started by TLK Valentine, Dec 11, 2020.

  1. cow451

    cow451 The Most Interesting Poster in the Forum Supporter

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    Too bad you brother is part of the cult. I hope most Trump followers will ultimately put country ahead of the Donfather. Sad to see friends and family lose the ability to have disagreements without hate.
     
  2. Kentonio

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    I've never quite wrapped my head around the way one minute he's pretending to be some highly aggressive warrior and the next minute whining like a little girl about how mean everyone is to him. Do his fans really not notice?
     
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  3. TLK Valentine

    TLK Valentine You will be who you will be. We are our choices.

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    It's really quite simple... a bully is a person who only goes after those who he thinks are weaker than him, and can't fight back.

    But scratch the surface of any bully, and you'll find a coward. What happens when someone does stand up to one?
     
  4. iluvatar5150

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    I don’t think they have a good, consistent idea of what strength really looks like.
     
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  5. KCfromNC

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    In this case, a woman beat him after he tried to shut down the government to get his little wall built. And yet his fan club still thinks he's a tough super macho type-a manly man.
     
  6. TLK Valentine

    TLK Valentine You will be who you will be. We are our choices.

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    That same woman has taken him behind the woodshed on more than one occasion... no wonder he hates her so.

    And of course, by extension, no wonder his followers hate her so.

    But of course -- ever see A Christmas Story?

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    "In our world, you were either a bully, a toady, or one of the nameless rabble of victims."

    Donald's people live in Scott Farkus' world... they can't be the bullies themselves, and they won't be the victims, so...
     
  7. Fantine

    Fantine Dona Quixote Supporter

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    Perhaps refusing to seat 126 House members would be a little bit of overkill, but I think that the Speaker needs to put Republican Congress members on notice as soon as the Electoral College votes that any House member that decides to challenge that vote on January 6 won't be seated.

    That will lower the impact to the one or two biggest promoters of the voter fraud hoax lessening confidence in our electoral process, like Matt Gaetz.
     
  8. TLK Valentine

    TLK Valentine You will be who you will be. We are our choices.

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    That would be overkill. They have the right to voice any legitimate challenge to the electoral votes that they can muster... I say let them; more failures for us to laugh at.

    Besides, the decision to disqualify electors from any state requires a simple majority vote from both houses of Congress. The House is a no brainer, and McConnell doesn't have enough Senate votes to allow this nonsense to do any real damage.
     
  9. Arc F1

    Arc F1 Let the righteous man arise from slumber Supporter

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    The older we get the less we like change. Remember the hippie movement? Now I'm on the side of the old people and my hair all fell out.
     
  10. Fantine

    Fantine Dona Quixote Supporter

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    No.
    I am talking about the Speaker's ability to seat a member for good reason...like challenging the electoral results to overturn the election
    The governor would have to appoint a replacement.
     
  11. TLK Valentine

    TLK Valentine You will be who you will be. We are our choices.

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    Which raises the question of how many governors supported this nonsense...
     
  12. Fantine

    Fantine Dona Quixote Supporter

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    None on the record.
     
  13. mmksparbud

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    Sedition is not "exercising constitutional rights!!"
     
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  14. disciple Clint

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    You are absolutely correct which is why it has nothing to do with this action on the part of Trump and his supporters.
     
  15. mmksparbud

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    Well, it's not Biden and his followers who are talking about it!!
     
  16. variant

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    It's how we see people who will buy whatever the trump propogandists are spewing today.
     
  17. Andrewn

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    Can she actually do this? Is it constitutional?

    There is talk about representatives who intend to challenge Electoral College votes in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Georgia, Arizona, and Nevada. Is this even possible when all these, except Wisconsin, finished their final certifications before Safe Harbor Day?
     
  18. disciple Clint

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    People do not lose their rights just because what they want to do is not popular. This is THE USA we do not repress freedom here. This cancel culture mentality needs to come to an end, it is flat out unamerican.
     
  19. TLK Valentine

    TLK Valentine You will be who you will be. We are our choices.

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    Unless we consider fraud and terrorism in the name of overturning a legitimate election to be sedition...

    ...and there's also no small amount of irony in the "You lost; get over it" crowd threatening secession because they lost and can't get over it.
     
  20. Kentonio

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    Sorry but you don’t seem to know the history of your own country very well. Go back 150 years and the kind of talk Trump supporters are engaging in would have certainly been considered sedition and likely prompted armed response.

    On a wider note, the kind of language Trump et al use was never ok in America, and this idea of total freedom of speech is laughable. If someone 150-200 years ago had publicly insulted another mans wife, or smeared them in the way Trump loves to do, the expectation would have been that they would be physically attacked if not killed for it.

    What you call ‘cancel culture’ was the absolute norm in the past. People simply did not behave like that because the consequences would have been fierce and often fatal.
     
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