Nicene Creed

icbal said:

I dont.

I consider it a nonsense (in the most respectful and non-hurtful way).

Admittedly I have not read all of it, but what I have doesn't seem to make too much sense, and really looks like someones interpretation of what the bible, and most specifically the NT, means.
Which is what it is.

Since no two eyes see the same thing in the same way, i think the nicene creed is a waste of time to adhere to, because at best people would only ever agree with most of it.

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ebia said:

Which bits? I would have thought most of it at least was pretty straightforward.



Well, not someone's but a Council's.



Again, I don't follow you. A heck of a lot of people do agree with all of it. Not everyone, but that was the point of it in the first place - to contradict certain teachings common at the time it was written, and make it quite clear to everyone that those teachings were wrong according to the whole church acting in council.

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bloved said:

My biggest qualm with it is the way in which it is used. It is used as sort of a litmus test on this forum for who is and who isn't a Christian. I've read enough of the posts here to know that posters can be some of the most arrogant, condescending, rude, hateful, and unChristlike people on a public forum but, as long as they agree with the Nicene Creed, they are considered to be Christians.

That is one of the problems with creeds and doctrinal statements, they seem to support an ideology that says as long as folks give mental assent to certain statements, no change or transformation is necessary. The result? Evangelical Christianity believes IN Jesus but nobody acts LIKE Jesus. How one conducts one's self become secondary to what one believes. Personally, I think Jesus would have a big problem with that ideology.

bloved

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Joykins said:

I agree with it, although I think it proffers a fairly complex Trinitarian theology in the language of 4th century Greek philosophy. I don't think it's necessary to subscribe to its (either of its, now, I suppose, as a nod to my Orthodox friends ) specific trinitarian position to be a Christian, though.

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