NFL to allow social justice messages in end zone, players to wear decals of police brutality victims

[disciple Clint]

So, we know how many black people, many unarmed, are killed by the police, but it bothers you to see one of many, many names on a helmet 'cause you just wanna watch the game?
How is a decal preventing that? You have a problem with players choosing to put the name of a black life taken by police officers?

Life's hard, huh?

OK so you have 10 blacks killed by police without justification last year. What names are they going to put on the rest of the helmets?

 

[Tropical Wilds]

From the article-
The league will also go ahead with playing 'Lift Every Voice and Sing'

The NFL reportedly unvealed on Monday its social justice plans for Week 1 of the upcoming season, which includes optional decals players can place on their helmet and messages that could be placed in each end zone.

Players who opt to wear the decal will be given a list of names or they can choose a “victim of systematic racism who is not on that list,” NFL executive Anna Isaacson told teams, according to the NFL Network.

“As we continue to amplify and elevate the NFL's ongoing and long-term commitment to social justice, we will be incorporating several prominent elements on the field, into all broadcasts and across league and club platforms to begin the NFL season and beyond,” the memo reportedly read. “In developing these concepts, we have worked directly with players and received input from the NFLPA.”

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NFL to allow social justice messages in end zone, players to wear decals of police brutality victims: report

This is how you switch from the wrong side of history to the right side with grace and humility. Go them!

 

[DaveISBA]

If the child is unborn, we care. But if they are already born and black, who cares.

Are you suggesting Blacks can only succeed by having someone else care? No wonder certain Blacks have low esteem issues when they hear this dribble! Also are they some how helpless and unable to chart their own destinies? As the Bible says "faith comes by hearing" If you're constantly hearing about how much of a victim you are, this can become your mind set!
You never hear these desseminators of victimhood talk about the many financial success stories of other Blacks! Like how many Black people know that according to a 2016 Federal Reserve Survey of Consumer finances there were "380,000 Black millionaires in America" and how many know there are 6 Black billionaires here? Blacks need to look at these role models, take note and learn the keys to these successes! Learn how to acquire generational wealth to pass down as, for example, the Jews do!
You hear so many Black people say all they want is a "level playing field" but why settle for that when they are perfectly capable of owning the field?

 

[iluvatar5150]

Can someone explain to me: why is it such a big deal?

If police were killing Christians, wouldn't you appreciate the solidarity? Love your neighbor as yourself.

But it's a lot of fuss over a sticker, and behind that the lives that are just gone, which is a bigger deal than football.

They aren't stopping the game, talking about it - just wearing a decal of one of the lives lost. Why is that such a problem?

Yeah, it's interesting that there's more fuss from some corners about the stickers than there is about the injustices that led to those stickers.

Why so? Why can't you just accept that there's many good people who just want to keep sports neutral from all these issues? Does EVERYTHING....EVERYTHING have to be a part of some social engineering agenda? Sports has always been a pleasant escape from the serious issues of the day and allows one some space to think about other things. Leagues however forsake the mandate of what REALLY they're meant to be about and might become bewildered that there's a price to pay for doing so. We'll see.

You might want to pick up a history book. Sports "has always" been intertwined with politics and other "serious issues of the day." It's been used by autocratic regimes as propaganda tools; it's been used against autocratic regimes as a means of isolating them; it's been used to push discrimination and segregation; and it's been used to fight against discrimination. Social engineering was how we got these problems; social engineering is likely going to be part of how we fix them.

 

[Scott Husted]

wow I cannot wait for the pro life messages.

... and exactly how long can you hold your breath ?!

 

[Albion]

So, we know how many black people, many unarmed, are killed by the police...

Reportedly, it was 8 or 9 last year; and being unarmed doesn't mean cooperative.

 

[iluvatar5150]

Are you suggesting Blacks can only succeed by having someone else care? No wonder certain Blacks have low esteem issues when they here this dribble! Also are they some how helpless and unable to chart their own destinies? As the Bible says "faith comes by hearing" If you're constantly hearing about how much of a victim you are, this can become your mind set!
You never hear these desseminators of victimhood talk about the many financial success stories of other Blacks!

What are you talking about? Lots of people talk about this. That's the whole point of the push to increase "representation" in a bunch of fields - so there are exemplars of success able to be used as inspiration for others.

Like how many Black people know that according to a 2016 Federal Reserve Survey of Consumer finances there were "380,000 Black millionaires in America" and how many know there are 6 Black billionaires here? Blacks need to look at these role models, take note and learn the keys to these successes!

Ooh boy, 6 black billionaires in the US. There were half as many white billionaires in one (virtual) room this week. Add Trump and his Education Secretary and you've got two more. That's five. His Commerce and Treasury secretaries are each about halfway there.

Learn how to acquire generational wealth to pass down as, for example, the Jews do!
You hear so many Black people say all they want is a "level playing field" but why settle for that when they are perfectly capable of owning the field?

Throughout American history, blacks have been denied many of the opportunities that would've enabled them to own the fields. Much of middle class wealth in the US has been accumulated via home ownership and then through college education, both of which were denied to black Americans en masse for much of the time whites were accumulating it. Additionally, while Jews were discriminated against in the US (and elsewhere, obviously) in both housing and employment, they were still treated better than blacks and were more able to conceal their ethnicity. As a whole, Jews aren't as wealthy as the stereotype suggests, but it's sort of an ironic stroke of luck for them that the professions into which they've been historically shunted have turned out to be some of the more lucrative in our modern knowledge economy. The same is not true of blacks.

 

[DaveISBA]

So, we know how many black people, many unarmed, are killed by the police, but it bothers you to see one of many, many names on a helmet 'cause you just wanna watch the game?

How is a decal preventing that? You have a problem with players choosing to put the name of a black life taken by police officers?

Life's hard, huh?

You white people, assuming you're white, crack me up with your distorted ideas about what it's like to live in the "Hood"!
I lived in Compton CA, 23 years and the least of my worries was getting shoot by the Compton PD who you seldom saw because they were reluctant to conduct patrols and when you did call them you where blessed if they responded and is the reason why they were replaced by the Sheriffs department!
What I was afraid of was being in the midst of gang wars, drive by shootings, constant gun fire, bullets flying everywhere and having them come through my wall, the cause of a number of people being killed and is why I and so many others had to retreat to what we thought were safe areas in our homes!
The last I heard from a Comptonite friend, who said as soon as she can sell her house she's gone, was that most blacks have moved out of Compton for safer places like Victorville because Compton has been taken over by Hispanics and because the Hispanic gangs like MS-13 are even more ruthless than the black gangs!

Names on a helmet? You would need a telephone book to list blacks killed by other blacks in the "Hood"!

 

[Beanieboy]

Sorry, but more colored kill colored people than the police.
Also, check the stats.. more whites are killed by police than colored.

The BLM started off bringing attention to the problems of racism... however, it is far far from that now.

In fact, there are now numbers out that state that colored people and Hispanics, are more racist than whites.

A new poll from Rasmussen Reports finds that Americans, by a majority, see Blacks as more racist than Whites.
Blacks more racist than Whites, say Americans to Rasmussen

"Victims were majority white (52%) but disproportionately black (32%) with a fatality rate 2.8 times higher among blacks than whites. Most victims were reported to be armed (83%); however, black victims were more likely to be unarmed (14.8%) than white (9.4%) or Hispanic (5.8%) victims."

Deaths Due to Use of Lethal Force by Law Enforcement: Findings From the National Violent Death Reporting System, 17 U.S. States, 2009–2012

Additionally, the rate of fatal police shootings among Black Americans was much higher than that for any other ethnicity, standing at 31 fatal shootings per million of the population as of June 2020.
People shot to death by U.S. police, by race 2020 | Statista

Btw, what you posted was opinion, asking white people's opinion. Not facs, perception and opinion.

 

[Beanieboy]

I'm not getting the connection between a black citizen killing another black citizen, who if caught, serves time, and a police officer, whose job is to protect citizens, killing sometimes an unarmed person doing nothing wrong, some times minor crimes, and shoot the citizen, or most recently, kneeled on a guy's neck for seven minutes. That was murder, anx unfortunately, often police walk without any punishment or jail time.

The two aren't related.

 

[Beanieboy]

OK so you have 10 blacks killed by police without justification last year. What names are they going to put on the rest of the helmets?

If it was only a 2019 problem, they would run out of names. It's not.

Why does this bother you so much?

 

[jacks]

If it bothers you, just become a Buccaneers fans...they never make it to the end zone anyway.

 

[Albion]

If it bothers you, just become a Buccaneers fans...they never make it to the end zone anyway.

See? Now that's creating thinking and helpful information!. Not just the usual sparring.

 

[JacksBratt]

What are you talking about? Lots of people talk about this. That's the whole point of the push to increase "representation" in a bunch of fields - so there are exemplars of success able to be used as inspiration for others.



Ooh boy, 6 black billionaires in the US. There were half as many white billionaires in one (virtual) room this week. Add Trump and his Education Secretary and you've got two more. That's five. His Commerce and Treasury secretaries are each about halfway there.



Throughout American history, blacks have been denied many of the opportunities that would've enabled them to own the fields. Much of middle class wealth in the US has been accumulated via home ownership and then through college education, both of which were denied to black Americans en masse for much of the time whites were accumulating it. Additionally, while Jews were discriminated against in the US (and elsewhere, obviously) in both housing and employment, they were still treated better than blacks and were more able to conceal their ethnicity. As a whole, Jews aren't as wealthy as the stereotype suggests, but it's sort of an ironic stroke of luck for them that the professions into which they've been historically shunted have turned out to be some of the more lucrative in our modern knowledge economy. The same is not true of blacks.

Can you name one thing that a colored person, by law, is denied?

Also, ugly people, factually, have a harder time getting good jobs and jobs of importance. Maybe they should start a trend to have all sectors represented in modeling, acting, marketing, sports. etc.

I heard that they are even going after the PGA.. Yes, golf.. there are not enough colored people in pro golf.. Well, not just anyone can go and play pro golf... How would you like to be on the pro circuit because you are colored.. not because of your skill but in order to represent colored people?

We used to call that the "token" black or "token" native or "token" female.. There just to make it look good and appease the stats.

What is the main thing missing here? The nuclear family unit... Studies have shown that a solid family with a father, a mother, who are present and involved and eat at least 5 meals together, as a family, per week... Increases the chances of those children being solid contributors to society.

However, programs put in place by the first black president, Obama, give money to colored mothers for every child that they have, when there is no father present. This perpetuates the problem.

In the end, more colored kill other colored people. And, more whites are killed by police than colored.

People shot to death by U.S. police, by race 2020 | Statista

 

[JacksBratt]

I'm not getting the connection between a black citizen killing another black citizen, who if caught, serves time, and a police officer, whose job is to protect citizens, killing sometimes an unarmed person doing nothing wrong, some times minor crimes, and shoot the citizen, or most recently, kneeled on a guy's neck for seven minutes. That was murder, anx unfortunately, often police walk without any punishment or jail time.

The two aren't related.

It's the "doing nothing wrong" that bugs me... I don't think that police go around killing those "doing nothing wrong. The rest of your post is assumption and hearsay...

 

[DaveISBA]

What are you talking about? Lots of people talk about this. That's the whole point of the push to increase "representation" in a bunch of fields - so there are exemplars of success able to be used as inspiration for others.



Ooh boy, 6 black billionaires in the US. There were half as many white billionaires in one (virtual) room this week. Add Trump and his Education Secretary and you've got two more. That's five. His Commerce and Treasury secretaries are each about halfway there.



Throughout American history, blacks have been denied many of the opportunities that would've enabled them to own the fields. Much of middle class wealth in the US has been accumulated via home ownership and then through college education, both of which were denied to black Americans en masse for much of the time whites were accumulating it. Additionally, while Jews were discriminated against in the US (and elsewhere, obviously) in both housing and employment, they were still treated better than blacks and were more able to conceal their ethnicity. As a whole, Jews aren't as wealthy as the stereotype suggests, but it's sort of an ironic stroke of luck for them that the professions into which they've been historically shunted have turned out to be some of the more lucrative in our modern knowledge economy. The same is not true of blacks.

According to a USA Today article (Detroit, Chicago, Memphis: The 25 most segregated cities in America)
and 22 are run by democrat mayors!
I used to live, in Southern CA, LA listed on a top ten most segregated major cities conducted by the Atlanta Tribune (black owned magazine) some years ago, is one of the most democrat, liberal and so called progressive areas on the planet, even though some homes in the black neighborhoods were of similar construction blacks where prevented from living in certain white neighborhoods because they where priced out of the market which confined them to living in the "Hood"!

Thank you for your non-encouragement! You know as a black man I would never convince my children about what they think they can't do as you seem bent on doing, that's not doing them any good! I need to encourage them and tell them about what they can do!

Are you kidding about the Jews? They have been the most persecuted race on earth! I even hear blacks talk bad about Jews! Ain't nobody doing anything for them but instead of marching in the streets begging for someone to care, when they come into a country they know they will suffer persecution so behind the scenes they create generational wealth and influence that enables them to send their kids to the best colleges! Black people take note!

You say, "Ooh boy, 6 black billionaires in the US"? One would think there wouldn't be any black billionaires in the US listening to you describe how disadvantaged blacks are!

 

[Beanieboy]

It's the "doing nothing wrong" that bugs me... I don't think that police go around killing those "doing nothing wrong. The rest of your post is assumption and hearsay...

What did Philandro do that was wrong

 

[iluvatar5150]

Can you name one thing that a colored person, by law, is denied?

Today, nothing that I'm aware of. In the past, there were laws denying them access to voting, housing, education and marriage rights. There were also policies enacted within the private sector and permitted by law that restricted all of these as well as access to employment.

Also, ugly people, factually, have a harder time getting good jobs and jobs of importance. Maybe they should start a trend to have all sectors represented in modeling, acting, marketing, sports. etc.

There are trends in that direction. AFAIK, they're mostly in the interest of broadening our standards of beauty. For example, I get bombarded with ads from a particular underwear manufacturer that deliberately uses models with a range of body types.

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What is the main thing missing here? The nuclear family unit... Studies have shown that a solid family with a father, a mother, who are present and involved and eat at least 5 meals together, as a family, per week... Increases the chances of those children being solid contributors to society.

That's great. Studies also show that poverty undermines the creation and stability of families.

According to a USA Today article (Detroit, Chicago, Memphis: The 25 most segregated cities in America)
and 22 are run by democrat mayors!
I used to live, in Southern CA, LA listed on a top ten most segregated major cities conducted by the Atlanta Tribune (black owned magazine) some years ago, is one of the most democrat, liberal and so called progressive areas on the planet, even though some homes in the black neighborhoods were of similar construction blacks where prevented from living in certain white neighborhoods because they where priced out of the market which confined them to living in the "Hood"!

Nearly all cities are run by Democrats. I wasn't talking about political parties, so I don't fail to see how your comment is relevant.

Are you kidding about the Jews? They have been the most persecuted race on earth! I even hear blacks talk bad about Jews!

That's great, but if you re-read my comments, you'll note that I was making a comment about their treatment in the US. It is a fact that, within the US, Jews faced less outright discrimination and oppression than blacks. It is a fact that, in areas that experienced overt racial housing segregation, Jews and Jewish neighborhoods were considered to be better than Blacks and Black neighborhoods. It is also a fact that, owing to their lighter skin, Jews had an easier time concealing their ethnicity from their would-be oppressors than blacks have. It is also a fact that stereotypically "Jewish" professions such as academia, law, and business into which they've been shunted over the last couple centuries have turned out to be some of the more lucrative in the modern economy, whereas American blacks were shunted more towards blue collar labor than has been devalued.

None of this is designed to minimize the suffering of Jews, merely to compare the relative experiences of two different minority groups in the US.

You say, "Ooh boy, 6 black billionaires in the US"? One would think there wouldn't be any black billionaires in the US listening to you describe how disadvantaged blacks are!

Your argument is just silly. That a group is disadvantaged doesn't preclude a handful of folks from within the group from succeeding.

 

[Ignatius the Kiwi]

Will they let players show their support for 'Free Hong Kong' or the Uighurs of China?

 

[JacksBratt]

Today, nothing that I'm aware of.

Well then? What's the deal?

Do they get an education?
Can they get a job?
Do they have all the same rights and freedoms of white, Hispanic, Asian and Mediterranean people?

I'm pretty sure that there is police corruption, brutality, and criminal officers.. that treat all people of all types with racism or prejudice.

Pretty sure it's not all cops.

Let's end it at that and stop the hysteria.

In the past, there were laws denying them access to voting, housing, education and marriage rights. There were also policies enacted within the private sector and permitted by law that restricted all of these as well as access to employment.

Yep... "in the past"

There are trends in that direction. AFAIK, they're mostly in the interest of broadening our standards of beauty. For example, I get bombarded with ads from a particular underwear manufacturer that deliberately uses models with a range of body types.

That's good... But.. human nature says that beauty sells.

That's great. Studies also show that poverty undermines the creation and stability of families.

Yep, and there are many whites, Hispanic, Asian and Mediterranean people in poverty.

Check out Candice Owens... She was raised in poverty and a broken home.. Anyone can rise above it.

Nearly all cities are run by Democrats. I wasn't talking about political parties, so I don't fail to see how your comment is relevant.

It is predominantly the "left" liberal Mayors and governors that are in charge where the problems are.