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New Zealand Police Say Multiple Deaths in 2 Mosque Shootings in Christchurch

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by SummerMadness, Mar 14, 2019.

  1. SummerMadness

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    New Zealand Police Say Multiple Deaths in 2 Mosque Shootings in Christchurch
     
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  2. Oscarr

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    We are sitting here seeing the breaking news reports right now! We would never think that anything like this could happen in New Zealand!

    I know there are differences of opinion between Christians and Muslims, but the white supremacists that did the shooting are evil monsters who deserve to spend the rest of their lives in prison. There should be the death penalty for this type of terrorism. It is a pity that the gunman who was caught did not get in the way of a few police bullets. If the gunman was in America, he certainly would have gone down in a hail of police bullets and good riddance to an evil monster!

    If there are other shooters involved, they should be shot on sight!
     
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  3. Ignatius the Kiwi

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    So if the sources I've been reading online are to be believed the guy released a Manifesto and planned this attack out well in advance. If the manifesto is legitimate he did it because he views the Muslims in Europe and western countries as invaders. There's a clear white nationalist belief running throughout the manifesto which he uses as the main reason for his shooting this mosque. He apparently isn't a New Zealander and has been here for a short time and attacked with an Automatic weapon.

    My personal opinions are mixed. I didn't expect this to happen today in New Zealand of all places and I can only imagine what the fallout will be. I hope we find him, capture him and reinstate the death penalty.
     
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  4. Zoii

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    New Zealand is an ethical bastion. It is an example to the world of how to govern a country offering people a high standard of living while simultaneously offering freedoms AND peace. It is in the top ten for almost all indicators of peace and ethical conduct.

    That an event like this should occur, is outside of New Zealand's high reputation and I'm sure is a shock to all there. It certainly shouldn't mar its reputation as being a peaceful and remarkable country.

    What we are seeing though, is that the best of countries are not immune to hate speech and the extremes of right-wing behaviours which are growing internationally. Christians need to be aware of this as religion has played a role in many extreme right-wing behaviours - starting with the klu Klux Klan, and ending with this event.
     
  5. FireDragon76

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    It's sad whenever a house of God is attacked. Last year it broke my heart when the synagogue in Pittsburg was attacked.
     
  6. Oscarr

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    It is thought that the shooter could be Australian. If so, he should be deported to Australia and sent to the detention centre on Nauru Island to rot there for the rest of his life.
     
  7. Oscarr

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    Jesus came to save people, not to shoot them.
     
  8. FireDragon76

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    It is shocking. My impression is that Kiwis are tolerant and peaceful people. I've never met any that really hated anyone.
     
  9. Oscarr

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    We are. Last year, we have a Christian conference speaker who prophesied that Christchurch was going to be blessed of God to be a "gateway city" for the Holy Spirit to revive the churches. It seems that Satan didn't like that prophecy and so he has decided to inspire a demonized white supremacist to bring a spirit of fear into the religious community to try and block the work of the Holy Spirit in Christchurch.
     
  10. rambot

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    There are reports that the man recorded or even LIVE STREAMED this attack.

    ugh.
     
  11. Phronema

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    That's absolutely true, it's out there.
     
  12. Oscarr

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    I think there should be an emergency Act of Parliament to have the death penalty for these terrorists. They should be eradicated from the world.
     
  13. Oscarr

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    Three men and one woman have now been arrested and are in custody. The police have found IEDs in cars near the Mosques and they have now been defused.
     
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  14. Oscarr

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    The school lockdowns have now been lifted to allow children to return home. Although the police feel they have arrested everyone they think is involved, they cannot guarantee that every connected person around the country has not been neutralized.

    New Zealand is a small country, and we are in a sense a family. These terrorists have nowhere to hide because every NZr will be outraged over the shooting and any terrorists still out there will have nowhere to hide. Every single NZr will be a police informant.

    If I saw one, I would prefer to be around a km away looking at him through the sights of a .5 caliber sniper rifle!
     
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  15. USincognito

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    Yeah. Folks on Free Republic watched and commented how disgusting and horrific it was.
     
  16. Oscarr

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    Pity we don't have Mossad in NZ. They know how to deal with terrorists. Our Prime Minister has now identified the attack as a definite terrorist attack and has raised the terrorist security alert level across NZ from low to high. This is the first time this has ever happened in NZ.

    I predict a time of mass arrests of white supremacists right around New Zealand after this. I think it has been a great shock for us here, and has destroyed the image that New Zealand is immune from terrorism. We will see calls to have our police routinely armed and security checks at our borders will be much stricter. It will now be much harder for terrorists to get access to New Zealand after this.

    I would like to see that white supremacist and neo-Nazis given criminal status in New Zealand attracting a minimum prison term of five years.

    Maybe our Prime Minister should go and visit Mr Trump and take notes from him about how he took measures to block prospective terrorists entering the U.S. after 9/11.
     
  17. USincognito

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    Trump took no such measures. George W. Bush was president at the time.
     
  18. Oscarr

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    The latest reports are that 40 people are dead, 30 at one location and around 48 wounded.
     
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  19. Oscarr

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    My error.
    One commentator said that the NZ SIS concentrated their security measures on Muslim extremists and the police thought that white supremacists were "clowns", but now the events have proved otherwise and our security intelligence services have to do a lot of re-thinking.

    The Australian Prime Minister has indicated that they will be taking a more serious look at white supremacism in Austalia, and I think that Mr Trump and his advisers will be viewing what happened here very closely and thinking about what they can do to prevent white supremacists and neo-Nazis doing the same in the United States.
     
  20. Oscarr

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    This tells it all:

    Weeping Kiwi.jpg
     
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