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Featured New Zealand/gun ban

Discussion in 'Current News & Events' started by DZoolander, Mar 18, 2019.

  1. redleghunter

    redleghunter Thank You Jesus! Supporter

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    Don’t know about Australia but in the US we have professional shooting teams which do compete with assault rifles.
     
  2. kiwimac

    kiwimac Bishop of the See of Aotearoa ROCCNZ;Theologian Supporter

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    No one needs a semi-automatic to hunt rabbits, pigs and deer.
     
  3. Oscarr

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    Granted, except a farmer in the McKenzie Country in the South Island says that the large number of rabbits invading farms needs a semi-automatic rifle to keep the numbers down, although of a lower calibre.

    I don't know what your Scripture quote has to do with gun control though.
     
  4. Alithis

    Alithis Disciple of Jesus .

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    it will have no effect . any one willing to do these sort of extreme things will go to extremes to get it done . Nz already has strict gun laws ..
    for instance i have a minor weed smoking conviction from 40 years ago... To my knowledge i can never buy or own or have a licence for a fire arm .
    in this case he "chose" NZ .simply because of our relaxed state of freedom-
    which because of his actions will now be undemocratically undermined and ebbed away from us .

    no i'm not into conspiracy theories ,this is a random act of planned hatred by an extrem extreme minority .but in every country these tragedies are being used politically for the same agenda - erode freedoms using the fear of the people .
     
  5. Alithis

    Alithis Disciple of Jesus .

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    in NZ to have one require a different license i think -the problem is .. clever people simply docter them up to full auto
     
  6. Michael Collum

    Michael Collum Everything began with a voice, use yours Supporter

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    Didn't the UK have a gun ban? then knifing deaths increased.

    Banning a weapon doesn't reduce the bloodlust of your populace, it just tells them to select another weapon.
     
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  7. Jonathan Walkerin

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    So why is US not selling heavy machine guns or mortars to the general populace ?

    The guns are already restricted everywhere. It is just a matter of where the line is drawn. If you need an assault rifle for selfdefence or hunting you are living in a very curious neighbourhood.
     
  8. Michael Collum

    Michael Collum Everything began with a voice, use yours Supporter

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    Good point. My point however, is the limitation of weapons doesn't solve the problem.
     
  9. salt-n-light

    salt-n-light Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Right and people don’t steal either, unpaid items just end up in bags.
     
  10. Alithis

    Alithis Disciple of Jesus .

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    the only advantage being (and it is admittedly an advantage ) mass killing like this become more difficult .so it does increase a perception of safety
     
  11. Archivist

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    So if this man had walked into a mosque with a knife, do you really think he would have been able to kill 50 people?
     
  12. Archivist

    Archivist Senior Veteran Supporter

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    Did you ever think that they did try thoughts and prayers and that is why they are calling for restrictions on guns?
     
  13. DZoolander

    DZoolander Persnickety Member

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    Exactly.

    I think it’s a mistake to say that people who advocate for gun control are attempting to remedy “murder” - because as people accurately point out - if I want to kill you and a gun isn’t available - I’ll grab a brick and konk you in the noggin’

    Murder is hard to do anything about.

    What people are wanting to address tho is easy to commit MASS murder. Like you properly point out - some guy ain’t gonna walk into a place with a knife and likely kill off 30-40 people in short shrift. Some guy with a knife or brick isn’t going to be able to knock out a window and kill off 70+ people from 200 yards out.

    When it comes to MASS murder - your options are few and far between. And it’s THAT which people are trying to address.

    Give me a choice between someone pointing a gun at me from 10 yards out or someone coming at me with a knife - and I’ll take the knife guy 100 times out of 100.
     
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  14. nonaeroterraqueous

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    Well, you could restrict guns to two-shot derringers. Those can't be used in mass-shootings. Although, when it comes to being mobbed by a gang of angry thugs one does want a weapon that can be used for mass murder.
     
  15. Rubiks

    Rubiks armchair linguist

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    There isn't. There's just an increase of reporting of mass shootings.
     
  16. Rubiks

    Rubiks armchair linguist

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    Those who are poor shots do though ;)

    idk I know nothing about hunting lol
     
  17. Tropical Wilds

    Tropical Wilds Lord, beer me strength...

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    If you don’t change your Facebook picture, are you even making a difference?
     
  18. DZoolander

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    What world do you live in where you think you’ll both be mobbed by throngs of people looking to do you harm - and also in that moment have had the fortune of carrying around a gun capable of handling that? lol
     
  19. Sistrin

    Sistrin We are such stuff as dreams are made on...

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    Will hate and scorn bring the victims back? Ease the suffering of family members? Because while derisively attempting to ridicule thoughts and prayers that is all you are offering in return, hate and scorn. But then I suppose that is considered enlightened, or something.
     
  20. Sistrin

    Sistrin We are such stuff as dreams are made on...

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    It's called America, post 2016, where wearing a hat leftist do not like can get you attacked, beaten, or targeted by a news media attempting to destroy your life even if you are only sixteen years old.
     
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