New York's COVID-19 restrictions on religious gatherings struck down

[Arc F1]

I don't know American law in detail, but I'm sure there is room in the law to override normal laws in a case of emergancy.

Not our constitution.

 

[ximmix]

It’s a nasty little side effective of believing Christianity. Since Jesus will just forgive any of their wrong doings they don’t have to deal with being morally accountable.

I thought Jesus only forgave repentful sinners..?

 

[Arc F1]

Do you always live by this principle, "others are not doing it right, so why should I"?

Yeah I have a problem with rules for thee but not for me. I think you should lead by example.

 

[ximmix]

Not our constitution.

If that is true, that is so weird to an outsider. That the government cant protect lives in a time of extraordinary crises...

 

[ximmix]

Yeah I have a problem with rules for thee but not for me. I think you should lead by example.

Ok. Hope that philosophy works for you and your loved ones...

 

[GreatLakes4Ever]

I thought Jesus only forgave repentful sinners..?

They repent, after they’ve done whatever deeds they want. Not all Christians are scoundrels like this but their belief system allows it.

 

[Arc F1]

If that is true, that is so weird to an outsider. That the government cant protect lives in a time of extraordinary crises...

We value our freedom.

 

[ximmix]

We value our freedom.

Does that include the freedom of others, to not be infected by those who value their freedom more than human lives?

 

[pitabread]

Trump should suspend all the rules and stay in office.

Not sure how that is supposed to help with a viral pandemic...

 

[pitabread]

We value our freedom.

The issue is that exercising one's personal freedom to transmit a viral pathogen that kills people invariably results in the loss of freedom of others.

Do you think that is acceptable? If exercising your own freedom meant others would die as a consequence, are you okay with that?

(Freedom is not absolute. There are reasons why laws, social norms, and other things exist in societies that restrict individual freedoms.)

 

[ximmix]

Not sure how that is supposed to help with a viral pandemic...

Yes too late for that, he already was a superspreader...

 

[loveofourlord]

I could ask the same about the politicians that are tasked with making the rules. They tell us not to visit family and then go themselves, they tell us no hair cuts then are seen getting one themselves, they say no gatherings yet they are seen out with protests,mandatory masks or you don't care about people and guess what, we then see them not wearing masks.

In California the court just ruled in favor of strip clubs yet churches are still dangerous and off limits.
California Pastor Temporarily Turns His Chapel Into a Strip Club to Be Deemed ‘Essential’

nice Tū quoque fallacy, what the idiots in charge does doesn't make their orders less relevant, just means they should obey it too.

 

[loveofourlord]

It’s a nasty little side effective of believing Christianity. Since Jesus will just forgive any of their wrong doings they don’t have to deal with being morally accountable if they don’t want to.

Except given how god and Jessus are in the bible and complaints about hypocrites and those that act pious for pious sake I doubt he think very kindly of those using him and his bible to kill others during a pandemic.

 

[loveofourlord]

Yeah I have a problem with rules for thee but not for me. I think you should lead by example.

Funny your the guy that is whining about churches being given the same restrictions that other similar places were. And NO a liquor store is not comparable to a church.

 

[loveofourlord]

They repent, after they’ve done whatever deeds they want. Not all Christians are scoundrels like this but their belief system allows it.

ehhhh There is the often used loophole of, "You must truly mean it." just saying forgive me but think you were right doesn't exactly work.

 

[loveofourlord]

We value our freedom.

Yes Americans are well known for being insanely worshiping of freedom, even if it costs lives or hurts others. Some seem to worship it more then god.

 

[GreatLakes4Ever]

Except given how god and Jessus are in the bible and complaints about hypocrites and those that act pious for pious sake I doubt he think very kindly of those using him and his bible to kill others during a pandemic.

They say “my bad Jesus” and he takes care of their misdeeds in front of their god. Rinse and repeat. While Jesus may speak out about it but it’s not like he would actually bar them from heaven permanently for it if they ask him for help.

 

[ThisIsMe123]

The issue is that exercising one's personal freedom to transmit a viral pathogen that kills people invariably results in the loss of freedom of others.

Do you think that is acceptable? If exercising your own freedom meant others would die as a consequence, are you okay with that?

(Freedom is not absolute. There are reasons why laws, social norms, and other things exist in societies that restrict individual freedoms.)

Right, it's a cop-out. Has nothing to do with the price of tea in China. My mom recalls how people got angry when seat belt laws were made mandatory. This is no different, except more destructive because it impacts other people.

But to some, this is first world problems.

 

[Arc F1]

Yes Americans are well known for being insanely worshiping of freedom, even if it costs lives or hurts others. Some seem to worship it more then god.

That's true but I'm not one of those people. I put God first.

 

[Arc F1]

Funny your the guy that is whining about churches being given the same restrictions that other similar places were. And NO a liquor store is not comparable to a church.

Liquor stores in my area look to be doing more business than ever. They have lines stretching all the way out into the highway sometimes. Some drunk pulled right out in front of me the other day when he was coming out of their parking lot. Those would have been the first thing I would have closed.