New York Times: What the ‘Grievance Studies’ Hoax Really Shows

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What the ‘Grievance Studies’ Hoax Really Shows

This time the hoax was an elaborate, yearlong series of 20 article submissions that resulted in seven accepted papers and four publications, all in journals devoted to fields the hoaxers characterized as “grievance studies.” As they wrote in the exposé published in the journal Areo, “Scholarship based less upon finding truth and more upon attending to social grievances has become firmly established, if not fully dominant,” within certain fields in the humanities, whose “scholars increasingly bully students, administrators and other departments into adhering to their worldview.”
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In either case, because graduate students and junior faculty in the humanities are expected to produce journal articles and citations much in the way graduate students and junior faculty in the sciences are, and because they are discouraged by tenure committees and sometimes by their own ideological provincialism from thinking broadly and connecting their work to larger questions of universal relevance, there is an increasing incentive to publish in journals with narrow purviews that are read by correspondingly few scholars. The proliferation of journals that few people are invested in, along with the pressure to produce ever greater numbers of articles, leads to more work being published with fewer safeguards guaranteeing its quality.

Furthermore, hyper-specialization in the humanities means that the very people who should be thinking broadly about culture and ideas, and teaching students to encounter and engage with a variety of positions and opinions, are becoming accustomed to defining their interests in the narrowest possible terms. They read and exchange ideas in hermetic academic bubbles, in very much the same way that the public has increasingly tended to read and exchange ideas in hermetic news bubbles
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What the ‘Grievance Studies’ Hoax Really Shows

This time the hoax was an elaborate, yearlong series of 20 article submissions that resulted in seven accepted papers and four publications, all in journals devoted to fields the hoaxers characterized as “grievance studies.” As they wrote in the exposé published in the journal Areo, “Scholarship based less upon finding truth and more upon attending to social grievances has become firmly established, if not fully dominant,” within certain fields in the humanities, whose “scholars increasingly bully students, administrators and other departments into adhering to their worldview.”
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In either case, because graduate students and junior faculty in the humanities are expected to produce journal articles and citations much in the way graduate students and junior faculty in the sciences are, and because they are discouraged by tenure committees and sometimes by their own ideological provincialism from thinking broadly and connecting their work to larger questions of universal relevance, there is an increasing incentive to publish in journals with narrow purviews that are read by correspondingly few scholars. The proliferation of journals that few people are invested in, along with the pressure to produce ever greater numbers of articles, leads to more work being published with fewer safeguards guaranteeing its quality.

Furthermore, hyper-specialization in the humanities means that the very people who should be thinking broadly about culture and ideas, and teaching students to encounter and engage with a variety of positions and opinions, are becoming accustomed to defining their interests in the narrowest possible terms. They read and exchange ideas in hermetic academic bubbles, in very much the same way that the public has increasingly tended to read and exchange ideas in hermetic news bubbles
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No, I'll simply lay it out here. So, let me ask you a simple question: What do you think the point of William Egginton [the author] is in this article?
 
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No, I'll simply lay it out here. So, let me ask you a simple question: What do you think the point of William Egginton [the author] is in this article?
Like most op-eds his points are many. One clue as to what drove him to offer his opinion comes from his byline: William Egginton is a professor of the humanities at Johns Hopkins University and the author of “The Splintering of the American Mind: Identity Politics, Inequality, and Community on Today’s College Campuses.

He is obviously defending his chosen field of employment.
 
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The problem, rather, is that scholars who study these questions have been driven into sub-specializations that are not always seen as integral to larger fields or to the humanities as a whole....

Furthermore, hyper-specialization in the humanities means that the very people who should be thinking broadly about culture and ideas, and teaching students to encounter and engage with a variety of positions and opinions, are becoming accustomed to defining their interests in the narrowest possible terms. They read and exchange ideas in hermetic academic bubbles, in very much the same way that the public has increasingly tended to read and exchange ideas in hermetic news bubbles.


I reject the above inference and thinking.

Hyper-specialization is not a bad thing in and of itself. In the hard sciences, scientists and mathematicians descend into sub-specializations all the time. They become the best in the world at that one teenie tiny little thing... and it is okay because that is just one little nugget of truth, that eventually supports someone else's little nugget of truth and when you add up all those nuggets you get a mountain.

Even when the little nugget turns out to be wrong or a dead end, it still has value.

Back to the humanities. As long as the arguments are logical and attempt to employ the scientific method, then they are fine IMO.

Now, where I will throw the flag though, is if/when you get a group of hacks that are attempting to pass off their opinions as actual science without employing the scientific method. Another thing I have a problem with is if they are massaging data and statistics to pound square pegs into round holes to serve their agenda. I'm 100% opposed to any intellectually disingenuous arguments and any academic who engages in such should have their favorite body parts pounded into pudding with a sledge hammer.

With that being said, I don't accept the premise that hyper specialization in the Humanities is defacto bad.
 
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Like most op-eds his points are many. One clue as to what drove him to offer his opinion comes from his byline: William Egginton is a professor of the humanities at Johns Hopkins University and the author of “The Splintering of the American Mind: Identity Politics, Inequality, and Community on Today’s College Campuses.

He is obviously defending his chosen field of employment.

Ok, so are you presenting this piece as one you agree with, disagree with, or find something useful but with which you only partially agree?

Personally, I agree with him in a general way. However, as to that first article you posted a few minutes ago in that other OP you created (and in which there is no link to the article), you might want to look more closely at the value set of assumptions of those who undertook "the hoax." :rolleyes:

That's all I'm trying to bring up here. This isn't a challenge to you, but just a friendly tap on the shoulder to say, "Hey, look over there ... too!"
 
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With that being said, I don't accept the premise that hyper specialization in the Humanities is defacto bad.
Nor do I.

The issue I have though is the same issue brought to light by the publication of the hoax articles: the journals in some specialized areas lack any rigorous standards. If a medical journal had similar lax standards the accompanying criticism would force them either to disband or to implement rigorous standards. Why should humanities studies be exempt from criticism leading to higher quality products? :scratch:

The way I see it, they went down a bad road, took short-cuts and are being called on the carpet for it. Now they need to clean up their act. It's not complicated.
 
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Nor do I.

The issue I have though is the same issue brought to light by the publication of the hoax articles: the journals in some specialized areas lack any rigorous standards. If a medical journal had similar lax standards the accompanying criticism would force them either to disband or to implement rigorous standards. Why should humanities studies be exempt from criticism leading to higher quality products? :scratch:

The way I see it, they went down a bad road, took short-cuts and are being called on the carpet for it. Now they need to clean up their act. It's not complicated.

I can get behind this more or less.

I come from the hard sciences and have been published in peer reviewed journals so I'm familiar with the process. I've noticed that the "soft sciences" particularly the social sciences do have a breed of academics within their ranks that really have no business publishing anything because they are quite frankly hacks.

And as you say, they should be called on their bovine excrement. I can get behind that.
 
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Nor do I.

The issue I have though is the same issue brought to light by the publication of the hoax articles: the journals in some specialized areas lack any rigorous standards. If a medical journal had similar lax standards the accompanying criticism would force them either to disband or to implement rigorous standards. Why should humanities studies be exempt from criticism leading to higher quality products? :scratch:

Unfortunately, that's not correct. Lots of disciplines (all of them?) have problems with bogus journals.

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

(eta: I don't know why that title shows up - it's about bogus medical journals)

There's a lot of incentive all around to get things "published" and there's often little ability or incentive to vet the quality of the journal.
 
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Nor do I.

The issue I have though is the same issue brought to light by the publication of the hoax articles: the journals in some specialized areas lack any rigorous standards. If a medical journal had similar lax standards the accompanying criticism would force them either to disband or to implement rigorous standards. Why should humanities studies be exempt from criticism leading to higher quality products? :scratch:

The way I see it, they went down a bad road, took short-cuts and are being called on the carpet for it. Now they need to clean up their act. It's not complicated.
It's a nice day when I can agree with NightHawkeye on something.
 
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