New Poll Shows 48% White Evangelicals Would Support Kavanaugh Even If He Assaulted Ford

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How about just a majority of Americans get to pick their president regardless of where they live?

The majority live in big cities. If popular vote was what determined the vote, then those in big cities would always determine what's best for everyone, including those in small towns and rural areas. The way people live and what their values are is quite different between those locations.
 
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The majority live in big cities. If popular vote was what determined the vote, then those in big cities would always determine what's best for everyone, including those in small towns and rural areas. The way people live and what their values are is quite different between those locations.
That's nice, but why does that mean that the votes from people who live where people actually want to live should be worth less?
 
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The majority live in big cities. If popular vote was what determined the vote, then those in big cities would always determine what's best for everyone, including those in small towns and rural areas. The way people live and what their values are is quite different between those locations.

How does the EC change this? It is not weighted towards those who live in rural areas but simply towards states with lower populations. Those states still have cities in them where the majority of the population is congregated do they not?
 
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The majority live in big cities. If popular vote was what determined the vote, then those in big cities would always determine what's best for everyone, including those in small towns and rural areas. The way people live and what their values are is quite different between those locations.
No, if it were by popular vote, it wouldn't be just the people in the big cities determining elections. It would be the most popular candidate who wins, regardless of geographical location of the voters. Where voters live only matters when you're weighing some votes more than others.
 
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That's nice, but why does that mean that the votes from people who live where people actually want to live should be worth less?

California and New York indicate that they are worth enough to win their states every time. The ones who vote otherwise in those states, not so much.
 
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How does the EC change this? It is not weighted towards those who live in rural areas but simply towards states with lower populations. Those states still have cities in them where the majority of the population is congregated do they not?
People upset by this usually cite how bad New York City's influence is on American politics. And then go on to praise the guy they elected from New York City.
 
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California and New York indicate that they are worth enough to win their states every time. The ones who vote otherwise in those states, not so much.
Yes, another good example of how the EC unfairly makes certain votes worth less than others.
 
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New Poll Shows 48% White Evangelicals Would Support Kavanaugh Even If He Assaulted Ford


Members of our Church do not hold another's past against them.

Very forgiving.

For all have sinned.

M-Bob

You have to repent, though.
 
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48% of White Evangelicals Would Support Kavanaugh Even If He Assaulted Dr. Ford

For this poll, they interviewed 997 people and this is the result that came out. I don't know about you, but these polls focusing on evangelicals really seem to be steamed in sensationlistic reaction rather than anything good. It's bad reasoning that many people would support him even if he was guilty, but on the other hand I really feel this just is fuel for so many people who are already anti-evangelical.

I'm not entirely surprised. The dirty and disgusting hatred shown by the left-wing, is likely fueling the 'I don't care anymore' mentality.

Personally, I would rather have him shot, if he actually raped someone. Rapists should die.

But when you see how cruel and disgusting the left-wing is treating people with their 'mob rule' mentality... yeah I can see why some are supporting him no matter what.

I do wonder if perhaps people answered the question from the perspective of assuming that the charges are false, but believing that charges will be pushed through anyway. It's a thought.
 
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That's nice, but why does that mean that the votes from people who live where people actually want to live should be worth less?

They're not worth any less than Republicans who live in California or New York, but never have a chance of having their vote win their state.
 
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Trump: "I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose any voters"

Evangelicals: <silence>

Notice that he didn't actually shoot anyone. Nobody thought he was serious when he said that and they were right to not think so.
 
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Notice that he didn't actually shoot anyone. Nobody thought he was serious when he said that and they were right to not think so.

As far as I can tell, Trump is always serious. He's never said he was ever joking.

People didn't take him seriously, and he wound up president.
 
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As far as I can tell, Trump is always serious. He's never said he was ever joking.

When people say something that's supposed to be a joke, they don't usually follow it up with, "That was a joke".

People didn't take him seriously, and he wound up president.

And he still never shot anyone.
 
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When people say something that's supposed to be a joke, they don't usually follow it up with, "That was a joke".

Actually, the president needs to do that, just as people online need to insert emoticons.

There are rough men ready at a moment's notice to take the president's words for action.

There were a couple of times Andropov didn't realize Reagan was joking, and things got hairy for those of us monitoring the national Indications and Warning system.
 
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Actually, the president needs to do that, just as people online need to insert emoticons.

People online use emoticons because nobody can see the expression on your face or hear the inflection in your voice when you say something.

There are rough men ready at a moment's notice to take the president's words for action.

And even they didn't react. I guess they must have understood.

There were a couple of times Andropov didn't realize Reagan was joking, and things got hairy for those of us monitoring the national Indications and Warning system.

A person from another country and another culture, such as the Soviet Union, may have a harder time understanding a joke. This is America.
 
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One radio talk show host ended civility in America by saying that?

It was the start of the current slide.

The majority live in big cities. If popular vote was what determined the vote, then those in big cities would always determine what's best for everyone, including those in small towns and rural areas. The way people live and what their values are is quite different between those locations.

Instead, we get this:
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California and New York indicate that they are worth enough to win their states every time. The ones who vote otherwise in those states, not so much.

Hillary got 61% of CA and 59% of NY. Those are great numbers in a winner-take-all electoral college system, but much less so in a straight popular vote.

People upset by this usually cite how bad New York City's influence is on American politics. And then go on to praise the guy they elected from New York City.

lolol
 
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