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New muslim vision for Temple Mount

Discussion in 'Baptists' started by Whisper865, Apr 6, 2013.

  1. Whisper865

    Whisper865 Regular Member

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    Yes, they could but why would they train their priests to enter the Holy of Holies and how to do the worship service if they did not have it....
     
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  3. Whisper865

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    How well do you know the book of Revelation?
     
  4. Boidae

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    The same way that they did when Jesus was alive.

    They worshiped God without the Ark of the Covenant being there.
     
  5. Boidae

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    I have read it a couple times, but it's one of those books that takes deep study.

    With that said, there are other books of the Bible that are of more importance to me for study at this time.
     
  6. Boidae

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    Here's some more information that I have found.

    There is mention in Jeremiah 3:16 that the Ark will no longer even be talked about.

    16 And when you have multiplied and been fruitful in the land, in those days, declares the Lord, they shall no more say, “The ark of the covenant of the Lord.” It shall not come to mind or be remembered or missed; it shall not be made again.

    Then in Revelation 11:19 it states that the Ark will be found in Heaven in God's Temple.

    19 Then God's temple in heaven was opened, and the ark of his covenant was seen within his temple. There were flashes of lightning, rumblings,[a] peals of thunder, an earthquake, and heavy hail.

    Both of the scripture references that I have provided come from the ESV.
     
  7. Whisper865

    Whisper865 Regular Member

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    the beast will try to have a seat on the Ark the Jews wont like that much then this happens.
    Reaping the Grapes of Wrath

    17 Then another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle.
    18 And another angel came out from the altar, who had power over fire, and he cried with a loud cry to him who had the sharp sickle, saying, “Thrust in your sharp sickle and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth, for her grapes are fully ripe.” 19 So the angel thrust his sickle into the earth and gathered the vine of the earth, and threw it into the great winepress of the wrath of God. 20 And the winepress was trampled outside the city, and blood came out of the winepress, up to the horses’ bridles, for one thousand six hundred furlongs.
     
  8. Whisper865

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    Revelation 22:1-21

    King James Version (KJV)

    22 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.
    2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.
    3 And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him:
    4 And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads.
    5 And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever.
    6 And he said unto me, These sayings are faithful and true: and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel to shew unto his servants the things which must shortly be done.
    7 Behold, I come quickly: blessed is he that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of this book.
    8 And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things.
    9 Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God.
    10 And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand.
    11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.
    12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
    13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
    14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
    15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
    16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.
    17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.
    18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
    19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
    20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
    21 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.

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  9. Boidae

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    Read verse 17 again. Where is that temple located?
     
  10. Keachian

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    2nd Temple Judaism functioned quite well without the Ark
     
  11. Keachian

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    Overall 3rd Temple Expectancy is misfounded, even more so for the Christian, to the Christian there is nothing in Ezekiel's Eschaton that is not fulfilled in Christ;

    The Prince who offered greater Sacrifices than the Law required (Ezek 46:4, cf Num 28:3-29:38) has offered something even greater than what Ezekiel saw, for he is greater than what Ezekiel thought he was, he is not only our Prince but our Great High Priest who has once for all entered into the Most Holy Place and offered his own flesh once for all for the atonement of his people.
     
  12. phoenixdem

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    Do you have a valid source for they have the Ark?
     
  13. Alithis

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    -is that related to Jeremiahs grotto that was uncovered and investigated by ron wyatt ..in the late 80s .. then the whole topic fell silent ,,situated under Golgotha the place of the skull directly beneath where the cross was placed outside the walls of Jerusalem.

    ron claimed two angels spoke with him in that cavern and told him they guarded the ark of the covenant until the time it will be revealed to the world as a testimony against then at the time of the "law made against God"
     
  14. Boidae

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    I had no idea who this Ron Wyatt was till now.

    I did some research and according to his own site (he died in 1999) they still haven't recovered the Ark. They believe that it's in this cave, but they aren't exactly sure.

    I am still going to go by what the Bible says about the Ark.
     
  15. Whisper865

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    It obvious!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  16. standingtall

    standingtall Such is life....

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    Only to those who are naive enough to believe in the sensationalists that
    are preying upon the weak minded.
     
  17. Hammster

    Hammster Our weapons are Word, Water, Bread, Wine. Staff Member Site Advisor Supporter

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    The Internet.
     
  18. standingtall

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    Hey, if it's on the Internet, it MUST be true!!!
     
  19. Hammster

    Hammster Our weapons are Word, Water, Bread, Wine. Staff Member Site Advisor Supporter

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    That's what I hear.
     
  20. Whisper865

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    LOL I cant speak for the man in the youtube video but the facts clearly suggest that they have it.
     
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