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Neo-orthodoxy forum?

Discussion in 'Suggest New Forums' started by dms1972, Nov 14, 2017.

  1. dms1972

    dms1972 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Was wondering if it might be good idea to have a Neo-Orthodoxy forum. Neo-orthodox would be the theology associated mainly with Karl Barth, Emil Brunner, Dietrict Bonhoffer and some others. Its a significant strand in 20th century theological thought and somewhat distinct from Liberalism, and Fundamentalism.
     
  2. PloverWing

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    I'd enjoy that.
     
  3. Gracia Singh

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    Just a thought.... Orthodoxy can mean different things to different people. Maybe describe something like this as "Protestant Neo-Orthodoxy" so as to avoid confusion with Oriental or Eastern Orthodoxy.
     
  4. dms1972

    dms1972 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Yes it might need some disambiguation - such as sticky thread to explain its purpose.
     
  5. ~Anastasia~

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    If such a forum is created, I'd like to request the disambiguation be part of the forum name itself, not just a sticky. No offense, but sometimes we struggle enough against misunderstanding of what we (Orthodox) believe.
     
  6. Dave-W

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    That sounds like a very good idea. Even reading the title and OP of this thread (up to the name Karl Barth) I thought it was about a movement within either Eastern or Oriental Orthodoxy.
     
  7. Paidiske

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    Reformed orthodoxy? That's a term often associated with that school, I think?

    I'd also be interested. Many of these theologians have significantly enriched my own understanding.
     
  8. PloverWing

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    Hmm. I haven't heard the term "Reformed Orthodoxy"; maybe it's used less in the U.S. Some of the theologians in the movement are Lutheran, rather than Reformed, so "Reformed Orthodoxy" would be misleading for me. Which I guess reinforces Gracia Singh's and Anastasia's points. :)

    Maybe put the name of one or more of the theologians in the name? "Barthian theology", or something like that?
     
  9. Paidiske

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    It's not just Barth, though. And if you're going to cast the net wide enough to include, say, Moltmann and Volf, then you're looking at some diversity of views and not just a Barthian take on things.

    Maybe something like, 20th Century Canonical Protestants? I don't know, that's a mouthful. I don't have the right word!
     
  10. PloverWing

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    Yeah, I didn't want to leave out the others (especially because it's Brunner and Niebuhr who are my favorites in the group), but the list of names gets long.

    Whatever we call it, we'll need a sticky.
     
  11. PloverWing

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    I'll add that these theologians have significantly enriched my understanding, as well.

    Toward the end of my college years, I found I could not longer affirm the conservative Evangelicalism I was raised in (inerrancy, young earth creationism, etc.). I was on the verge of giving up and becoming an atheist. The Neo-Orthodox theologians showed me a way forward, a way to still be Christian. I owe them a tremendous debt of gratitude.
     
  12. FireDragon76

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    Neo-orthodoxy, when capitalized and used in the appropriate context, is a well understood term in western Christianity among academics, as a particular theological movement beginning in the early part of the mid-twentieth century.

    The eastern churches do not have a monopoly on the term "orthodoxy".

    I actually think a separate forum is not necessary and that most of the discussion of Neo-orthodoxy would fit within Whosoever Will, May Come. Perhaps some official clarification needs to be made regarding this. Most progressive Christians on the forum are significantly influenced by Neo-Orthodoxy, and not classical liberalism.
     
  13. Paidiske

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    Or perhaps it could fit in Bridge Builders? I think that would be more apt than WWMC?
     
  14. ~Anastasia~

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    Yes, I too thought it was about some "movement" within Orthodoxy (there is no movement but there are always a couple of vocal folks on the fringes trying to change everything, as I suspect is true with any major faith group).

    And not be be agreeable/disagreeable, just chiming in - I'm not familiar with the terms Reformed orthodoxy or neo-orthodoxy, and I read a fair amount. So I suspect they would create some confusion among Christians in general.

    However, if one of those is the name officially chosen by the group/movement/field (sorry, I don't know what it would be) ... it is true that terms like Orthodox and Catholic are not "owned" by the particular Churches. They were necessary descriptors. The Orthodox refer to ourselves as being catholic and the Church of Christ and apostolic without meaning any of these denominations. But as a title they would be misleading. However, if that's the way it already is ...

    Maybe as being suggested the location would be helpful to differentiate it. I would appreciate a sticky in that case, but we know most folks don't read those. Maybe a forum sub-title at least? Pretty please?
     
  15. dms1972

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    I think the term Reformation Orthodoxy might be open to misunderstaning as it might be confused with reformed scholastism in the period immediately following the Reformation. The movement associated with Barth et al. is generally known as Neo-Orthodoxy, its also sometimes refered to as Dialectic Theology, or the Theology of Crisis (so those might be better names, to differentiate it) But its a 20th century theology and there is differing opinions on it from theologians in the Reformed camp, both positive and negative.

    Neo-orthodoxy - Wikipedia
     
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  16. ~Anastasia~

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    Yes, the same objections to including "Reformed" would be fair to those folks as well.

    It should be a cosmic rule that if anyone is going to begin a new school of thought in religion, it ought to have to have a unique name. ;) (only semi-joking here - I know there are no rules but I think it WOULD be for the best for everyone concerned!)

    If Dialectic Theology / Theology of Crisis (maybe with a subtitle including Barth, Bonhoeffer, etc. as explanation) were acceptable and informative enough, I think that would be ideal.
     
  17. dms1972

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    For myself I had quite often read the term neo-orthodox used in connection to Barth, but its not a term that these theologians chose for themselves, they didn't get together and say lets start a new movement and call it Neo-orthodoxy, it was called that by others, so that is why the term is somewhat confusing.

    As the forums are not used only by academics I agree that a forum of that title will be puzzling to some christians. I had not given enough thought to that when i asked. The theologians that often are grouped under the umbrella Neo-orthodoxy are a fairly diverse bunch, often in aspects of their theology in sharp disagreement with each other for instance Barth vs Brunner over Natural theology.

    If there is a new forum I lean towards calling it Dialectic Theology myself.
     
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