Maybe not the best post some error and some unorthodox beliefs according to the church but I may believe it. It is a burden I hope someone else completed it. I think someone needs to complete it but I post because I think we need to try to have understanding of gospel better. It is my job to complete it but I think it is important to have true understanding of gospel and not give advantage to satan.
If Jesus can not save those who are lost then there was never really ever any hope for me and I say the bible says there is hope for none who come not to the Father through Him and not our works. It is understanding the gospel which gives forgiveness of sins and which is food that helps us abide in Him. All His commandments must be done but they are fulfilled in the one who is saved just like the samaritan woman who had the Holy Spirit which would never make her thirst, that is to find life in the world things.
I can see why protestants may think the communion is done so we remember Him and therefore eat Him spiritually when we eat the bread. We are supposed to each of us help each other understand the gospel so we become one body and eat Him.
The church fellowship is to prepare us to know the gospel and we take the communion to declare and prove our unity and remember Him. If we take the body when we do not really understand the gospel we mock Him. And it is withdrawn to make people really know the gospel.So those outside the church I may believe they take communion also as they understand the gospel through the constant remembrance of His death through the Lord supper and hearing of gospel. I believe the communion is actually the body of Christ in the church but perhaps others also who celebrate it anywhere also might be taking it or through faith. I believe those who go to church need the church to prepare them to receive the gospel and christ so they are taking the communion but we don't know how others are prepared to receive it spiritually. But you can take communion even if you do not fully understand if you are trying to understand and ask Him to help you and our church believes the communion helps everyone's weakness. Maybe communion is truly offered only in the church but protestants are still saved another way and can they be saved in the last day suffering before that?
on what basis? I will subscribe that communion is given to all by true understanding of gospel and fellowship but I will go to church and take communion to maybe enlighten me on how it is accepting of protestants. I will go any to have peace with my church beliefs. But if I do not have peace then it may be as I describe here
why then is no one who takes communion in church without trying to know the gospel more not punished ? because they don't know they are not trying to understand the gospel. They are not aware they do not know it all. It seems some corinthians even tried to have communion without knowing why Jesus died even though they may have believed.
Im sure or I fear the devil will take me away from that simple faith out of jealousy
Salvation is through Believing in Jesus and works will follow.
If Jesus could not justify everyone who believes in Him at this moment and make Him righteous He could not be the Saviour of the world. He should be able to make everyone like St Mary of Egypt even while they are in the world. And we do not prove ourselves worthy of forgiveness by trying to again not sin on our own but we allow Him to put His Spirit in us that we may observe His statues.
Jesus said he who believes in Me the works I do he will do. That is even his works of compassion will come natural. He will not bury his talent he will tell the love of Jesus. That is why those on the right will say when did we see you and ministered. Suffering for Jesus came easy considering how He suffered for them and His strength is in them. This is not strange as we consider baptism dying with Him even though we do not die for Him.
Becoming saved is the difficult part and staying saved. Which explains why the way to heaven is harder
Therefore if we only see Him as Lord but not Saviour you give glory to yourself and not to God and bible says those works are filthy rags and we are not saved by works lest any man should boast.
Jesus said without abiding in Me you can produce no fruit and without Me you can do nothing. There is no fear in love but perfect love casts out fear. The love that is being talked about is understanding of the gospel through relationship with christ. Hence Paul says I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me.
He will not sin on purpose
What does it mean to accept Jesus as your personal Savior?
I fear we are not complete in understanding the parable of the wise and foolish virgins
I always have many interpretations of parables this one is one of them
I fear the 5 foolish are in fact those christians since they are trying to meet the bridegroom who see Jesus only as Lord but not as Saviour. The 5 wise have been saved by Jesus so they became holy but the oil they needed was to continue to understand the gospel so it produces holiness in them. The faith you had in Jesus at the beginning is not enough but you must grow in knowledge of Him as Saviour or maybe you had it from God but God does not keep it but expects you to maintain it and not lose it. That is why St John said I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God that you may know you have eternal life and that you continue to believe in the name of the Son of God. Jesus said to the disciples their names were written in heaven and we have our names written in the lambs book of life already but it can be blotted out. I believe a person could therefore be saved if he continues in the state he is in till death. He was never saved but he had the truth in Him which if he continues in he will be saved.
One interpretation I had is the foolish want you to wait for them to be like you before you do something else. Maybe they did not even wish to repent but to make the wise perish like them which explains why when they sought to buy they found none but they wished to repent if the wise are being saved.
That is why Pope Shenouda said when you are praying the devil sends you someone to tell you about some people who are fighting for you to go and make peace
The practicality of John 3:16
Jesus said He came not to condemn the world but that the world through Him might be saved. He said He who believes in the Son is not condemned
Jesus said He came not to lose one whom the Father has given Him (I believe by leaning on His teaching and having true understanding) but He will raise them up at the last day.
We need understanding for the bible says "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge"
I think Jesus truly covers all our past present and future sins so long as we are not sinning willfully which is really rejection of Jesus.
I think sinning willfully is not ignoring what you know God said is right or are told by the church which you are convinced of mostly but you then change your mind a bit and think you know what is best to serve God. It is not any of that but wishing to show you do not fear the law. Challenging Him.Not falling out of weakness and habit which you are truly trying to overcome but making that decision often as a choice for love of sin. That sinning even out of habit is just a sign you may not be saved yet but your sins will be forgiven later if you are saved
I suppose even that is forgiven if one is found believing in Jesus before death for one may die without feeling even sorry for any of his sins and believing in christ and confessing Him for the Lord says to fear then for He will come when you are not looking for Him
The thing is we accept catholics now but we did not before. Pope Shenouda also worked for unity with protestants and he personally accepted them according to my confession father and that is true for he said those who believe in nicene cree d are christian.
We must try to accept them not only as person but as christian and learn from them
Lets face it if only orthodox are saved we are limiting God and there is little orthodox population in the world now and maybe future generations but not at the end perhaps. It is a possiblity if much of the world becomes orthodox but we can not say that is how it will be because we are not to say we know what God wants to happen. And not all orthodox are saved if they are not doing His will because maybe even they have not preached enough not that I believe we should judge other christians but that is supposing that is the way but I do not judge them if they do preach that if that is what they believe so long as they do not know they are hurting others and especially when other orthodox are doing their job of not judging cancelling their effect
My purpose of this post is to try to come back as I would be responsible for others being lost for making them doubt they can be saved outside of the church though I hope to be saved especially if I repent but the past may not be changeable. I have thought of leaving the church but I don't think I can do that and may be a stumbling block to those in the church. So why am I part of the church and why I don't preach and baptise with assurance? because I want to be sure what I am doing is right by participating in the church sacraments. I believe they are saved but I have to be sure there is still a lot of explaining to do since the bible teaches an actual priesthood given to the apostles and loosing and binding and laying on of hands and guarding of truth through the Holy Spirit in the church and order and so on. As part of the church I think it is not my job though I could preach and baptise with optimism but not assurance but I myself feel I need the sacraments also to make sure and it would be wrong of me since I was born in the orthodox faith to ignore all the sacraments until I am fully sure but we have to be careful about that as it may never be right to leave the church but I must be non offensive to those outside the church while I am in it
If Jesus can not save those who are lost then there was never really ever any hope for me and I say the bible says there is hope for none who come not to the Father through Him and not our works. It is understanding the gospel which gives forgiveness of sins and which is food that helps us abide in Him. All His commandments must be done but they are fulfilled in the one who is saved just like the samaritan woman who had the Holy Spirit which would never make her thirst, that is to find life in the world things.
I can see why protestants may think the communion is done so we remember Him and therefore eat Him spiritually when we eat the bread. We are supposed to each of us help each other understand the gospel so we become one body and eat Him.
The church fellowship is to prepare us to know the gospel and we take the communion to declare and prove our unity and remember Him. If we take the body when we do not really understand the gospel we mock Him. And it is withdrawn to make people really know the gospel.So those outside the church I may believe they take communion also as they understand the gospel through the constant remembrance of His death through the Lord supper and hearing of gospel. I believe the communion is actually the body of Christ in the church but perhaps others also who celebrate it anywhere also might be taking it or through faith. I believe those who go to church need the church to prepare them to receive the gospel and christ so they are taking the communion but we don't know how others are prepared to receive it spiritually. But you can take communion even if you do not fully understand if you are trying to understand and ask Him to help you and our church believes the communion helps everyone's weakness. Maybe communion is truly offered only in the church but protestants are still saved another way and can they be saved in the last day suffering before that?
on what basis? I will subscribe that communion is given to all by true understanding of gospel and fellowship but I will go to church and take communion to maybe enlighten me on how it is accepting of protestants. I will go any to have peace with my church beliefs. But if I do not have peace then it may be as I describe here
why then is no one who takes communion in church without trying to know the gospel more not punished ? because they don't know they are not trying to understand the gospel. They are not aware they do not know it all. It seems some corinthians even tried to have communion without knowing why Jesus died even though they may have believed.
Im sure or I fear the devil will take me away from that simple faith out of jealousy
Salvation is through Believing in Jesus and works will follow.
If Jesus could not justify everyone who believes in Him at this moment and make Him righteous He could not be the Saviour of the world. He should be able to make everyone like St Mary of Egypt even while they are in the world. And we do not prove ourselves worthy of forgiveness by trying to again not sin on our own but we allow Him to put His Spirit in us that we may observe His statues.
Jesus said he who believes in Me the works I do he will do. That is even his works of compassion will come natural. He will not bury his talent he will tell the love of Jesus. That is why those on the right will say when did we see you and ministered. Suffering for Jesus came easy considering how He suffered for them and His strength is in them. This is not strange as we consider baptism dying with Him even though we do not die for Him.
Becoming saved is the difficult part and staying saved. Which explains why the way to heaven is harder
Therefore if we only see Him as Lord but not Saviour you give glory to yourself and not to God and bible says those works are filthy rags and we are not saved by works lest any man should boast.
Jesus said without abiding in Me you can produce no fruit and without Me you can do nothing. There is no fear in love but perfect love casts out fear. The love that is being talked about is understanding of the gospel through relationship with christ. Hence Paul says I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me.
He will not sin on purpose
What does it mean to accept Jesus as your personal Savior?
I fear we are not complete in understanding the parable of the wise and foolish virgins
I always have many interpretations of parables this one is one of them
I fear the 5 foolish are in fact those christians since they are trying to meet the bridegroom who see Jesus only as Lord but not as Saviour. The 5 wise have been saved by Jesus so they became holy but the oil they needed was to continue to understand the gospel so it produces holiness in them. The faith you had in Jesus at the beginning is not enough but you must grow in knowledge of Him as Saviour or maybe you had it from God but God does not keep it but expects you to maintain it and not lose it. That is why St John said I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God that you may know you have eternal life and that you continue to believe in the name of the Son of God. Jesus said to the disciples their names were written in heaven and we have our names written in the lambs book of life already but it can be blotted out. I believe a person could therefore be saved if he continues in the state he is in till death. He was never saved but he had the truth in Him which if he continues in he will be saved.
One interpretation I had is the foolish want you to wait for them to be like you before you do something else. Maybe they did not even wish to repent but to make the wise perish like them which explains why when they sought to buy they found none but they wished to repent if the wise are being saved.
That is why Pope Shenouda said when you are praying the devil sends you someone to tell you about some people who are fighting for you to go and make peace
The practicality of John 3:16
Jesus said He came not to condemn the world but that the world through Him might be saved. He said He who believes in the Son is not condemned
Jesus said He came not to lose one whom the Father has given Him (I believe by leaning on His teaching and having true understanding) but He will raise them up at the last day.
We need understanding for the bible says "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge"
I think Jesus truly covers all our past present and future sins so long as we are not sinning willfully which is really rejection of Jesus.
I think sinning willfully is not ignoring what you know God said is right or are told by the church which you are convinced of mostly but you then change your mind a bit and think you know what is best to serve God. It is not any of that but wishing to show you do not fear the law. Challenging Him.Not falling out of weakness and habit which you are truly trying to overcome but making that decision often as a choice for love of sin. That sinning even out of habit is just a sign you may not be saved yet but your sins will be forgiven later if you are saved
I suppose even that is forgiven if one is found believing in Jesus before death for one may die without feeling even sorry for any of his sins and believing in christ and confessing Him for the Lord says to fear then for He will come when you are not looking for Him
The thing is we accept catholics now but we did not before. Pope Shenouda also worked for unity with protestants and he personally accepted them according to my confession father and that is true for he said those who believe in nicene cree d are christian.
We must try to accept them not only as person but as christian and learn from them
Lets face it if only orthodox are saved we are limiting God and there is little orthodox population in the world now and maybe future generations but not at the end perhaps. It is a possiblity if much of the world becomes orthodox but we can not say that is how it will be because we are not to say we know what God wants to happen. And not all orthodox are saved if they are not doing His will because maybe even they have not preached enough not that I believe we should judge other christians but that is supposing that is the way but I do not judge them if they do preach that if that is what they believe so long as they do not know they are hurting others and especially when other orthodox are doing their job of not judging cancelling their effect
My purpose of this post is to try to come back as I would be responsible for others being lost for making them doubt they can be saved outside of the church though I hope to be saved especially if I repent but the past may not be changeable. I have thought of leaving the church but I don't think I can do that and may be a stumbling block to those in the church. So why am I part of the church and why I don't preach and baptise with assurance? because I want to be sure what I am doing is right by participating in the church sacraments. I believe they are saved but I have to be sure there is still a lot of explaining to do since the bible teaches an actual priesthood given to the apostles and loosing and binding and laying on of hands and guarding of truth through the Holy Spirit in the church and order and so on. As part of the church I think it is not my job though I could preach and baptise with optimism but not assurance but I myself feel I need the sacraments also to make sure and it would be wrong of me since I was born in the orthodox faith to ignore all the sacraments until I am fully sure but we have to be careful about that as it may never be right to leave the church but I must be non offensive to those outside the church while I am in it
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That was also my opinion of pope Demetrius bill. I would also think it is okay to learn from Protestant schools what they believe but not to adopt their views of salvation
