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Nature of the Soul

Discussion in 'Christian Philosophy & Ethics' started by Tania11, Feb 14, 2020.

  1. Tania11

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    This is not a thread about eternal punishment. This is about the nature of the soul.

    I have a curiosity (just a theory),

    Besides having moral characteristics from God, does being made in the image of God also mean the soul can never ever be destructible?

    Makes sense why He doesn't want His name defamed by the devil and sent His son.

    Isaiah 48:11 For my own sake, for
    my own sake, I do this.
    How can I let myself be defamed?
    I will not yield my glory to another.


    Your thoughts?
     
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  2. Tra Phull

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    Sumpn bout "Fear Him who can destroy body and soul in hell"

    So I dunno about indestructible souls
     
  3. Tania11

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    Not a huge fan of Matt Slick, but those are good points. He seems to use the word "Conditionalist" for "Anihilationist"

    I TOO, think the soul is "eternal"
    I don't think it winks out of existence when the silver cord of Ecclesiastes is clipped
    Word studIEs on NEPHESH are ambiguous, even animals have a NEPHESH
     
  5. Tra Phull

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    I don't think Christians are in agreement about when the soul begins and when (if ever) it ends.

    Maybe it does neither.
     
  6. Tra Phull

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    I think the soul goes on forever, but I have no way to prove it.
     
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    Weird ok. I was thinking about this last night.
     
  9. Tra Phull

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    We got SOUL !!

    Everywhere - NEPHESH, nefesh, psuche, psyche...
     
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    :).
     
  11. RaymondG

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    I do not link the soul to the image. In Gen, God created male and female in His image.......before forming mankind, then breathing into Him the breath of life, making them living souls.

    "Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die."

    I do not believe, that the image dies..
     
  12. JIMINZ

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    Then the question is.

    So, if you can't prove it, what then makes you believe, the soul goes on forever?
     
  13. Tra Phull

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    I can't "prove" that Jesus rose from the dead, either, but I believe it. Don't you, JIMINZ ?
     
  14. JIMINZ

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    Your right on that one.

    The thing is, Belief in Jesus Christ takes Faith, producing (Salvation).

    John 20:29
    Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.

    Mark 16:16
    He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

    You want to exorcise your faith to believe that the "soul goes on forever," not quite the same is it?

    But then again, it's all about what makes you happy, regardless of whether or not you can prove it.

    Does it make your walk with Jesus any deeper to believe such a thing?

    Scripture says

    Eze_18:20
    The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.

    A soul that can die imagine that, doesn't sound like a "soul goes on forever," after all does it?
     
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  15. Tra Phull

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    "The soul that sinneth, it shall die"

    I think the context of the Ezekiel passage there is that people are not responsible for their parents' sins, but their own.
    It's not all cut and dried, we have a sin nature through Adam, but we have our own choices nonetheless.
    I cannot even comprehend my soul not lasting forever. It would mean I had ceased to be a believer. I don't believe in OSAS, as near as I understand Arminius about this, it is not possible for a BELIEVER to perish, but it might be possible for a person to cease being a believer. There are warnings about that in scripture. If I ever cease to be a believer, I would be in Deep Kimchi.

    "THIS IS THE WORK OF GOD, THAT YE BELIEVE IN HIM WHOM HE HATH SENT"

    So faith and works blend together in that verse, but no one ever talks about it. "Faith is not a work!" is the continual cry, despite what Jesus Himself said in that verse.

    My soul goes on as long as I believe and confess. Should I ever walk away from Faith, I'm toast, whether annihilation occurs, or Eternal Conscious Torment, why spend time trying to figure out which one is true - all that matters - to me, to you, to all believers - is that we CONTINUE TO BE BELIEVERS !!
    If so, we can sing BLESSED ASSURANCE all day long.
     
  16. Credos4Christ

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    I think Socrates's explanation of the soul is best. For anyone who wants an in-depth knowledge, I'd recommend a Platonic dialogue called Phaedo.

    Socrates believed that birth is the unification of body and soul; death is the separation of body and soul. But the soul is eternal in these processes. Interestingly, he saw the soul as more of a scientific fact than a religious belief.

    We know in the Bible that God breathed life into Adam (Gen 2:7). We also know, though, according to John the Baptist, that this "breath of life" or "divine breath" is more than just giving humans life. It's actually the Holy Spirit, a unique property of humans that does relate to humans being made 'in the image of God' (Gen 1:27), as we find out reading John's gospel (Jhn 20:22-3). Similar descriptions are made in the book of Ezekiel too.

    As such, man is a composite of body and soul (circling back to Socrates's thoughts): we are given a soul by God, and it is eternal—whether it lives in eternal punishment or eternal peace is up to the choices we make in our mortal life (what Socrates called the 'visible world').

    To Summarize
    -Humans are composites of soul and body
    -Birth is the conjoining of body and soul
    -Death is the disunion of body and soul
    -The soul lives beyond a mortal capacity eternally
     
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