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NATO Strikes "unprovoked"

Discussion in 'International Politics' started by wintermile, Nov 26, 2011.

  1. wintermile

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    Pakistan Says NATO Strike Kills Up to 26 Soldiers - Defense News

    The CIA is not above the law.
     
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  2. interpreter

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    Now Pakistan has turned against us. Ar Mageddon is fast developing.
     
  3. PHenry42

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    Uh, what? Calling out the US for its violations of territorial sovereignty is an act of aggression against the US?
     
  4. wintermile

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    What nations are expected to respond?




    This was in July.




    The U.S. lost partnership opportunities with Pakistan in the energy sector:

    And in the anti-terror cooperation sector.




    The two sentators have special interests in mind.
     
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  5. Aeneas

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    Wait, you mean killing over a dozen soldiers in a drone strike makes countries hate us? Who would have guessed? :doh:

    Please spare us. The USA's imperialistic and idiotic war policies have nothing to do with the Bible. In some ways, this sort of nonsense is worth than the Romans' tendency to try and find omens and auspices in every flight of crows.
     
  6. wintermile

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    Lawyers observing black day against NATO attack
     
  7. Paradoxum

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    We haven't been told why it happened yet have we? All not when I read the news this morning anyway. If it really was unprovoked then it means it was a mistake, not an act of war. If it wasn't a mistake then there was a reason for it and I doubt NATO randomly felt like shooting at Pakistan for the giggles.
     
  8. Ishraqiyun

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    How would we feel if Pakistani drones and bombers were flying around the US and then one of them "accidentally" dropped bombs on our soldiers?
     
  9. Ishraqiyun

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    You can bet that it would become a much more grave concern to Americans. Many would call it a deceleration of war. It's only when it happens to foreigners that it isn't that big of a deal. They aren't Americans so in right wing nationalist thought they are not as important.
     
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  10. wintermile

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    NATO is business. Who up-seats whomever is in control of NATO is business. Please state you are not interested in any NATO Head getting past the nukes in orbit so a fast food chain can be available in space?

    If all the gentlemen and ladies of this forum could trek the Middle East (of those that haven't of course), they would. Instead they scour reading material that I would be keen to say needs a forum for listing. Hard-pressed, I patiently wait to read here and there ---to listen too. Politely, I ask that all refrain from stating anything that is suggestive of life-taking. I frown upon censorship; however, censoring anything that is harassing or threatening is a priority. Remember, some Pakistanis post Kissinger's quote, that is if you are a Pakistani --because often, online, people portray themselves as those whom they are not. That quote, I don't know something like "being America’s ally is more dangerous than being its enemy". That is a smart alec quote for the retaliation game. Real smarts is when diplomacy comes out of nowhere by the people, either economically or sovereignly.

    Before I go do something productive, I have to ask: Do you identify with the prior Khilafat Movement?

    I need to read up on the Pashtuns and the Baluchs and those tied to Pakistan. Auzer, I will say, and correct me if I am wrong, Pakistan is one nation that does not want to fold; Pakistan wants roots. I will find the answer in my books and reading material. That is the best way.
     
  11. Paradoxum

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    I didn't say it was a mistake. I said it might be. I have yet to hear the reason why it happened. Why would NATO shoot at Pakistan for no reason? There must be a reason, even if it is a bad reason or a mistake.

    Funny how its ok to have weapons of mass destruction, but its not ok to try to defend yourself from them. Perhaps we should help Russia get a missile-shield too? Would that be a problem?
     
  12. Satt

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    This kind of crap is why I am voting for Ron Paul.
     
  13. PHenry42

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    I wonder what would happen if the Mexican military shelled a US border guard post, killing 24 US servicemen? My (un)educated guess is that Mexico would soon be turned into a parking lot :p
     
  14. Touma

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    The fact that they sold US secrets to China, was housing OBL, was housing Taliban and Al-Qaeda members and such....As far as we are concerned, they have been doing things which hurt our troops.
     
  15. Ishraqiyun

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    It would be very easy to protect them. Simply bring them home. Pakistanis can't do that though because we are actually bombing them in their own country.
     
  16. Eternally Optimistic

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    actually our government sells the cartel guns which have been used to kill Americans...they're weird like that! :p
     
  17. wintermile

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    Double Post.
     
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  18. wintermile

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    Enough books and articles have been written about U.S. commitments (in favor) with those we war with to be partitioned into an arena pitted with quicksand of which transhuman research centers are dumped.

    For those troops who return home from deployment and want nothing to do with war anymore, I praise them. For those troops who condone violence, torture, illegal wars and occupation from any nation, I criticize them.

    The CIA is hurting our troops. A Ron Paul quote given at the Campaign for Liberty Regional Conference in January, 2010, lays it out (how the CIA doesn't have a fresh face anymore). "They're in businesses, in drug businesses, they take out dictators ... We need to take out the CIA."

    I appreciate it when our troops organize people in the States to respond to humanitarian needs of the nations they deploy to.

    There is a brief paragraph in the next article I am linking that sheds light on nutritional aspects of women and children. I am not sure why they exclude men. A correspondent of The News reports a percentage of children in Pakistan are "facing absolute food scarcity". The correspondent reported from a 2011 National Nutrition Survey. The report concludes with a statement indicating the main reasons for there being a food scarcity. I will add another link to add another reason: terror.



    Estimated Total Deaths from U.S. Drone Strikes in Pakistan, 2004 - 2011

    Deaths (low) Deaths (high)

    2011* 378/ 536
    2010 607/ 993
    2009 369/ 725
    2008 274/ 314
    04-07 89/ 112

    Total 1,717/ 2,680

    *Through November 16, 2011

    Pakistan is in a slew of wars too: ICF cyberwar.
     
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  19. wintermile

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  20. interpreter

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    The US is the 4th Christian horseman (i.e, superpower) to rule the earth.
     
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