National Go Topless Day

[Archivist]

Here is a teaching on this topic. AskDrBrown

Which one of these are you referencing Sam? There are a whole lot of AskDrBrown videos...I don't have them to look at all of them. Of course your point is moot since you have already posted a link saying that women can go topless in public.

Oh, still waiting for you to answer the question as to whether you have gone topless in public. I suspect that I know why you have not answered--if you have done so you your entire argument is inconsistent and therefore moot. So, answer the question please.

 

[Poppyseed78]

Just checking in again lol. Hi. 99 pages...

 

[Sammy-San]

Just checking in again lol. Hi. 99 pages...

implying?

 

[Poppyseed78]

implying?

I'm just surprised this thread is going on for so long. Every so often I check back to see if it's still active.

 

[Archivist]

I'm just surprised this thread is going on for so long. Every so often I check back to see if it's still active.

Like the Energizer Bunny, it just keeps going, and going, and going...

 

[pat34lee]

But there is nothing questionable or wrong about women going topless in public, just is there is nothing wrong with men going topless.

That is your opinion, and completely immoral.
How did this thread get to 99 pages when it isn't
even questionable that topless is wrong?

 

[pat34lee]

If you have visited topless beaches on Europe or the Caribbean you know that for the most part the locals don't pay much attention to topless women. It isn't a big deal to them.

That is the problem with immorality. It deadens your senses.
Drugs dull your senses and it takes ever more to work.
inappropriate contentography deadens your sexual senses so that it takes more
to get you aroused, which leads to fetishes of all types.

 

[pat34lee]

Is it unbibical to call modesty relative?
People would say wearing certain swimsuits is modest, but by non water standards, they arent. How does water change women's modesty?

If you want standards, start with those of the 30s-50s.
No navals, no knees or higher, and no half breasts showing
from the center or the sides.

 

[Archivist]

That is your opinion, and completely immoral.
How did this thread get to 99 pages when it isn't
even questionable that topless is wrong?

But going topless isn't wrong for either sex.

 

[Archivist]

That is the problem with immorality. It deadens your senses.
Drugs dull your senses and it takes ever more to work.
inappropriate contentography deadens your sexual senses so that it takes more
to get you aroused, which leads to fetishes of all types.

We aren't talking about inappropriate contentography in this thread.

 

[Archivist]

If you want standards, start with those of the 30s-50s.
No navals, no knees or higher, and no half breasts showing
from the center or the sides.

We the 30s-50s? Why not the Victorian Era when neither sex went topless?

 

[pat34lee]

But there is nothing questionable or wrong about women going topless in public, just is there is nothing wrong with men going topless.

And I noticed that you only addressed two of the many points I raised. I presume that means that you have no answers for the others.

As I said before, there is a double standard in many things,
including modesty, and for a reason. Mostly, because men
and women are wired differently. Men are stimulated by
just about any sensory input, but visual is the strongest.

I don't care if you have a thousand bad reasons for doing
something wrong. If God doesn't approve, that is enough.

 

[pat34lee]

We aren't talking about inappropriate contentography in this thread.

Yes, we are. Live inappropriate contentography.

 

[Archivist]

As I said before, there is a double standard in many things,
including modesty, and for a reason. Mostly, because men
and women are wired differently. Men are stimulated by
just about any sensory input, but visual is the strongest.

I don't care if you have a thousand bad reasons for doing
something wrong. If God doesn't approve, that is enough.

God doesn't approve? Scripture to back that please.

As far as your claim of the double standard being permissible, explain why it was once illegal for either sex to go topless.

 

[Archivist]

Yes, we are. Live inappropriate contentography.

Only in you opinion. Is it inappropriate contentography when men go topless? After all, that was once illegal.

 

[pat34lee]

We the 30s-50s? Why not the Victorian Era when neither sex went topless?

No problem. Or back to even older standards.

 

[Archivist]

No problem. Or back to even older standards.

Like the early church where coed nude baptism was practiced in some places?

 

[pat34lee]

Only in you opinion. Is it inappropriate contentography when men go topless? After all, that was once illegal.

I won't argue minutiae.
Do you know the difference between moral and immoral?

The difference between modest and immodest?

Would you go to church or meet the president topless or
in a g-string, or have your young daughter do either?

1 Corinthians 6:19-20
19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

Colossians 3:17
And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him.

If you cannot do something in the name of Jesus, and to
glorify God, then it shouldn't be done at all. That includes
how you dress and act in public.

 

[pat34lee]

Like the early church where coed nude baptism was practiced in some places?

Minutiae, even if true. "The church" has a lot of evil to answer for.

 

[Sammy-San]

If you want standards, start with those of the 30s-50s.
No navals, no knees or higher, and no half breasts showing
from the center or the sides.

Too liberal of a post?

Thighs and nakedness

I would not object to a standard of modesty that required skirts to the knee or below, but I do not believe these two verses can be used to prove that is what God requires. Isaiah 47 does not only refer to the leg and thigh, but also to uncovering the hair and passing over the rivers. Why do we pick on the leg and thigh but ignore those two? Even amongst Christians who believe a headcovering is required for modesty, I believe it is rare for them to say that uncovering the hair is equal to exposing the nakedness.