National Go Topless Day

[Darkhorse]

I have to disagree, respectfully.
I mean then why did Adam and Eve (Adam and Chava) trade in their fig leaf bikinis for animal skins? The animal was probably their best friend. Sad really so I think modest qualifies for under dressing too.

I believe that God replaced their fig-leaf bikinis with leather ones to get them ready for the cold, rough, dangerous world they would inhabit after leaving Eden. They didn't know what they would need; He did. In fact, they would need a lot more clothing than bikinis.

 

[Ronit]

I believe that God replaced their fig-leaf bikinis with leather ones to get them ready for the cold, rough, dangerous world they would inhabit after leaving Eden. They didn't know what they would need; He did. In fact, they would need a lot more clothing than bikinis.

I totally agree Darkhorse. God is good

 

[Archivist]

Ronit, no one here is suggesting that women be forced to go topless against their will. But it should be an individual choice. Why should a women be arrested and fined or jailed for doing what men commonly do?

 

[Ronit]

Ronit, no one here is suggesting that women be forced to go topless against their will. But it should be an individual choice. Why should a women be arrested and fined or jailed for doing what men commonly do?

Um, Because the female mammary glands have many functions. I'm not about to go into it.
I really can't believe this? I mean as A world have we gone Pagan or something?

 

[Ronit]

Or are we just going to have to pluck out our eyes if they make us stumble...???
Sin and placing a stumbling block is a two way street..
Our Lord was always covered, He was a good Hebrew man.

 

[Sammy-San]

Um, Because the female mammary glands have many functions. I'm not about to go into it.
I really can't believe this? I mean as A world have we gone Pagan or something?

Do you think its because the lack of a shirt looks more grotesque on females than males?

 

[Ronit]

Do you think its because the lack of a shirt looks more grotesque on females than males?

No. But it will always be looked at as Sexual won't it.
Since most men tend to be visual. Am I right?
Nuff Said.

 

[Sammy-San]

No. But it will always be looked at as Sexual won't it.
Since most men tend to be visual. Am I right?
Nuff Said.

Even if it doesnt, it still draws attention to milk, which is why its different.

I dont agree with people who mention people drink cow milk and men lactate as an excuse. Cow milk has an order and a purpose thats in a different category than sexual and men lactating would be private if it was known about.

 

[Archivist]

Um, Because the female mammary glands have many functions. I'm not about to go into it.
I really can't believe this? I mean as A world have we gone Pagan or something?

Did the world go Pagan when men started going topless on public?

 

[Archivist]

Or are we just going to have to pluck out our eyes if they make us stumble...???
Sin and placing a stumbling block is a two way street..
Our Lord was always covered, He was a good Hebrew man.

Scripture tells us that Peter fished while he was naked. It was common practice at the time.

 

[Archivist]

Even if it doesnt, it still draws attention to milk, which is why its different.

I dont agree with people who mention people drink cow milk and men lactate as an excuse. Cow milk has an order and a purpose thats in a different category than sexual and men lactating would be private if it was known about.

You haven’t explained why producing milk somehow makes an organ sexual.

 

[Sammy-San]

You haven’t explained why producing milk somehow makes an organ sexual.

What defines sexual to you?

 

[Sammy-San]

You haven’t explained why producing milk somehow makes an organ sexual.

John Piper defined sex as genitals and breast behavior.

 

[Archivist]

What defines sexual to you?

No, I asked you first.

 

[Archivist]

John Piper defined sex as genitals and breast behavior.

John Piper is a teacher and minister. What qualifies him to comment on sex organs?

 

[Sammy-San]

John Piper is a teacher and minister. What qualifies him to comment on sex organs?

sex organs are unpresentable parts.

 

[Archivist]

sex organs are unpresentable parts.

Actually women in many parts of the world do not cover their breasts.

 

[Archivist]

Breasts are not sex organs. They are considered secondary sex characteristics. However, male chest hair and beards are also secondary sex characteristics, yet we don’t require men to cover their beard or chest.

I’m still waiting for your explanation as to how producing milk makes something a sex organ.

 

[HermanNeutics13]

Even if it doesnt, it still draws attention to milk, which is why its different.

I dont agree with people who mention people drink cow milk and men lactate as an excuse. Cow milk has an order and a purpose thats in a different category than sexual and men lactating would be private if it was known about.

I am really not understanding this argument. How is lactating in any way sexual? Breastfeeding is a natural function and if someone gets something sexual out of it, they have some bigger issues.

 

[HermanNeutics13]

What do you think the animal skins were for?
I suppose stringing a matured fig leaf might make a halfway decent bikini top?

They made the fig leaves to hide from God. They felt shame, but the shame was part of their sin. It was the serpent, not God that made them feel shame over their nakedness. God gave them animal skins to protect them from the harsh environment outside the garden.