NASA Scientists Present Theory About Why We Haven't Met Other Intelligent Life. It's Crushing.

[Frank Robert]

NASA scientists have explained in a new paper why they believe it’s likely we haven’t ever encountered intelligent extraterrestrial life — and it’s heartbreaking.

All intelligent life, they argue, has likely destroyed itself before reaching a sophisticated enough point in evolution to support such an encounter. And the same fate likely awaits humans unless we take action, they believe.

The “Great Filter” theory — as in “filtering out” various forms of life — argues that other civilizations, possibly several, have existed during the life of the universe. But they all destroyed themselves before they could make contact with Earth, noted the paper, “Avoiding the ‘Great Filter’: Extraterrestrial Life and Humanity’s Future in the Universe.”

...The scientists fear that all intelligent life, such as humans, have deeply ingrained dysfunctions that may “snowball quickly into the Great Filter,” they wrote.

“The key to humanity successfully traversing such a universal filter is… identifying [destructive] attributes in ourselves and neutralizing them in advance,” astrophysicist Jonathan Jiang and his coauthors wrote....

The trick, the biggest challenge of all, will be to work together to survive, the researchers said.

Check out the full paper here.​

 

[2PhiloVoid]

NASA scientists have explained in a new paper why they believe it’s likely we haven’t ever encountered intelligent extraterrestrial life — and it’s heartbreaking.

All intelligent life, they argue, has likely destroyed itself before reaching a sophisticated enough point in evolution to support such an encounter. And the same fate likely awaits humans unless we take action, they believe.

The “Great Filter” theory — as in “filtering out” various forms of life — argues that other civilizations, possibly several, have existed during the life of the universe. But they all destroyed themselves before they could make contact with Earth, noted the paper, “Avoiding the ‘Great Filter’: Extraterrestrial Life and Humanity’s Future in the Universe.”

...The scientists fear that all intelligent life, such as humans, have deeply ingrained dysfunctions that may “snowball quickly into the Great Filter,” they wrote.

“The key to humanity successfully traversing such a universal filter is… identifying [destructive] attributes in ourselves and neutralizing them in advance,” astrophysicist Jonathan Jiang and his coauthors wrote....

The trick, the biggest challenge of all, will be to work together to survive, the researchers said.

Check out the full paper here.​

It could also just be that [insert Star Trek music here], "...... Space.....the Final Frontier" has turned out to be a heckuva lot bigger than they bargained for.

 

[DragonFox91]

Evidence, please

 

[Der Alte]

Evidence, please

Right! I'm not quite ready to accept every new theory that "scientists" come up with.

 

[Frank Robert]

Right! I'm not quite ready to accept every new theory that "scientists" come up with.

Read the original paper. It is not saying earth will not make it.

Life on Earth has already overcome filtering events, however the Great Filter lies ahead and it is unknown if we will be able to survive long enough to become a Type I civilization or beyond (green vertical lines), as others already may have or have not.


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[timothyu]

I like the X-File and Biblical notion that we are poison and no one wants anything to do with us so we've been quarantined until the inevitable result of our self centred ways.

 

[JohnEmmett]

Stunning OFF-WORLD Alien Ship Captured

 

[JohnEmmett]

NASA … Needlessly a Secret Answer

 

[public hermit]

NASA scientists have explained in a new paper why they believe it’s likely we haven’t ever encountered intelligent extraterrestrial life — and it’s heartbreaking.

All intelligent life, they argue, has likely destroyed itself before reaching a sophisticated enough point in evolution to support such an encounter. And the same fate likely awaits humans unless we take action, they believe.

The “Great Filter” theory — as in “filtering out” various forms of life — argues that other civilizations, possibly several, have existed during the life of the universe. But they all destroyed themselves before they could make contact with Earth, noted the paper, “Avoiding the ‘Great Filter’: Extraterrestrial Life and Humanity’s Future in the Universe.”

...The scientists fear that all intelligent life, such as humans, have deeply ingrained dysfunctions that may “snowball quickly into the Great Filter,” they wrote.

“The key to humanity successfully traversing such a universal filter is… identifying [destructive] attributes in ourselves and neutralizing them in advance,” astrophysicist Jonathan Jiang and his coauthors wrote....

The trick, the biggest challenge of all, will be to work together to survive, the researchers said.

Check out the full paper here.​

I think it's fairly obvious we have destructive attributes/tendencies. But it feels a bit like projection to assume that has been the case, or simply is the case, for other intelligent life forms. Still, that's an interesting possibility for us. We don't seem able to rid ourselves of the destructive tendencies that have always been the problem.

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

The fallen angels are returning folks.

 

[timewerx]

NASA scientists have explained in a new paper why they believe it’s likely we haven’t ever encountered intelligent extraterrestrial life — and it’s heartbreaking.

All intelligent life, they argue, has likely destroyed itself before reaching a sophisticated enough point in evolution to support such an encounter. And the same fate likely awaits humans unless we take action, they believe.​

According to the Bible, the majority of humans is as dumb as animals.

If that's the best conclusion NASA scientists can come up with only proves the Bible is right.

 

[sjastro]

I’d be more concerned an intelligent extraterrestrial life form could destroy the universe as well in the process of its self destruction.

At the current rate of development by 2150 particles colliders will exceed the centre of mass collision energies the universe can deliver through cosmic ray collisions.

At some point beyond this threshold if our universe is in a false vacuum state, a collision between particles in a collider could push the universe out of its false vacuum into a lower (true) energy state through quantum tunneling in a process known as vacuum decay.
This could destroy the universe as described in this simplified explanation.

Given this is more in the realm of science fiction than science imagine if we dumb humans sometime in the not too distant future had the power of destroying the universe with the flip of a switch in activating a massively powerful particle collider.

 

[SelfSim]

I’d be more concerned an intelligent extraterrestrial life form could destroy the universe as well in the process of its self destruction.

At the current rate of development by 2150 particles colliders will exceed the centre of mass collision energies the universe can deliver through cosmic ray collisions.

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At some point beyond this threshold if our universe is in a false vacuum state, a collision between particles in a collider could push the universe out of its false vacuum into a lower (true) energy state through quantum tunneling in a process known as vacuum decay.
This could destroy the universe as described in this simplified explanation.

Given this is more in the realm of science fiction than science imagine if we dumb humans sometime in the not too distant future had the power of destroying the universe with the flip of a switch in activating a massively powerful particle collider.

Thanos beat us all to it with just the snap of his fingers!

 

[Sketcher]

“Two possibilities exist: either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.”

― Arthur C. Clarke

 

[sjastro]

Thanos beat us all to it with just the snap of his fingers!

Remember this?
Plaintiffs Want to Stop Particle Accelerator and Earth’s Oblivion

The Large Hadron Collider, the largest accelerator ever built, will re-create conditions of the Big Bang that gave rise to the universe, Science Daily reports.

CERN is conducting a new safety review. “The possibility that a black hole eats up the Earth is too serious a threat to leave it as a matter of argument among crackpots,” a member of the anonymous Safety Assessment Group, Michelangelo Mangano, told the Times.

 

[Sheila Davis]

NASA scientists have explained in a new paper why they believe it’s likely we haven’t ever encountered intelligent extraterrestrial life — and it’s heartbreaking.

All intelligent life, they argue, has likely destroyed itself before reaching a sophisticated enough point in evolution to support such an encounter. And the same fate likely awaits humans unless we take action, they believe.

The “Great Filter” theory — as in “filtering out” various forms of life — argues that other civilizations, possibly several, have existed during the life of the universe. But they all destroyed themselves before they could make contact with Earth, noted the paper, “Avoiding the ‘Great Filter’: Extraterrestrial Life and Humanity’s Future in the Universe.”

...The scientists fear that all intelligent life, such as humans, have deeply ingrained dysfunctions that may “snowball quickly into the Great Filter,” they wrote.

“The key to humanity successfully traversing such a universal filter is… identifying [destructive] attributes in ourselves and neutralizing them in advance,” astrophysicist Jonathan Jiang and his coauthors wrote....

The trick, the biggest challenge of all, will be to work together to survive, the researchers said.

Check out the full paper here.​

We do know that the majority of scientists do not believe in the Bible.
If only they did - they would find it full of extraterrestrial activity of beings / entities from the beginning to the end - considering extraterrestrial means anything not of this Earth.

Considering just the capabilities of the Angels they are highly advanced and when you think of the feats and descriptions of bright lights of some angels, it should incline NASA to compare those who wrote The original Scriptures to what many has witnessed in these modern days.

 

[AV1611VET]

NASA scientists have explained in a new paper why they believe it’s likely we haven’t ever encountered intelligent extraterrestrial life — and it’s heartbreaking.

It's simply because they wouldn't know it if they did.

Hebrews 13:2 Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.

 

[timewerx]

We do know that the majority of scientists do not believe in the Bible.
If only they did - they would find it full of extraterrestrial activity of beings / entities from the beginning to the end - considering extraterrestrial means anything not of this Earth.

Considering just the capabilities of the Angels they are highly advanced and when you think of the feats and descriptions of bright lights of some angels, it should of NASA of what many has witnessed in these modern days.

The Bible often describes angels as stars or one of the celestial bodies like galaxies ("Starry Host, "Host of Heaven"). At first it seems it must be figurative.

But cross-referencing non canon scriptures like the Book of Enoch which describes some features of celestial bodies or astronomy in striking detail, comparable to modern astronomy also refers to them as angels, then we get the idea it might in fact be literal that some of the celestial bodies are the same thing the Bible refer to as Angels.

The Bible is saying what science could not confirm that life / intelligence / sentience is not limited to "cool" carbon-based lifeforms but can also be huge, super-heated balls of plasma we call stars.

The book of Enoch / Bible refers to each nation guarded by an angel. I'm inclined to think that "nation" here is a habitable planet and the "angel" is the planet's host star. Earth is the Milky Way galaxy.

Because the Bible speaks of many "nations" then we can see the possibility of the Bible acknowledging the abundance of intelligent humanoid life beyond our solar system.

If you read the Bible how it describes Earth. It gives many descriptions of Earth and generally the description is that of a FLAT geometric structure. NOT a sphere. What celestial body has flat geometric structure? A galaxy. Prophet Enoch in the Book Enoch also describes Earth from outer space with many features in parallel to a galaxy.

And our galaxy does have in tremendous abundance of space dust - the remains of dead stars. They are similar to soil or "earth" in terms of being rich in carbon compounds. It wouldn't be strange to name our galaxy "Earth" due to abundance of soil in it. "From Dust into Dust". Which brings up the topic of Adam, the first man. He and Eve were initially immortals or extremely long lived. and did not have nakedness.

Prophet Enoch in his book described Adam as a star-like celestial body glowing brightly in space. "Let us make man in OUR image". Like God and like the angels, like stars. "The Fall" from sin must be the first time he was "transformed" into humanoid creature, turning into a mortal and realizing the naked body.

These relationships are not just limited to Christianity. It is also present in ancient Egyptian religion, the Norse myths...Practically everywhere whenever ancient knowledge is concerned.

 

[keith99]

JPL=/=NASA

And there are 5 authors, only 2 of whom are associated with JPL. One of teh remaing 3 is associated with a high school!

One thing that comes to mind for me is from the story Logic of Empire by Heinlein. On the Venus we hoped for, hot and wet but habitable, because of the hobby of the hero get a safe way of communicating. AM radio! The idea was that it ahd become obsolete and forgotten.

Just how long have we had Radio at all? Might all the forms of communication that works over a distance become obsolete in a couple more centuries? Could it be possible that there is as much communication traffic byn advanced races that we could hear if we only knew how as there was radio communication in the Pacific Theater during WW II and we are just as unaware of it as primitave tribal cultures in the Pacific were?

And of course some version of the Prime Directive in the Star Trek sense should not be discounted. No need to decide we are too violent or that other races were, just that history out there is similar to that of Earth in that when technologically primitive cultures meet ones that are too far advanced the primitave culture tends to be destroyed. Even when the advanced culture tries to avoid it.

 

[Neogaia777]

Not to mention pushing matter beyond the speed of light, or even very close to it, is believed by many to be impossible as well...

Then there is the whole "prime directive" thing as well...

And then there is another proposal, what if that life, in it's evolution of becoming more advanced, saw the futility in both their current behavior and/or ways and in also speading into other areas of the galaxy/universe, and then reverted back into a simpler type of existence that went back to living in balance and harmony with their environment in and on their own planet before they destroyed both it and themselves, and that is why we don't see or hear from them today as well maybe, etc...?

Just a thought, etc...

Also what if some kind of "divine intervention" by "truly higher beings" happened on their planet that caused them to go back to this as well, and this is also why we don't see or hear from them as well maybe, etc...

Anyway, just a thought, or just some of my thoughts, etc...

God Bless!