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N. T. Wright on Predestination and Election

Discussion in 'Christian Scriptures' started by Humble_Disciple, Aug 3, 2021.

  1. Humble_Disciple

    Humble_Disciple Well-Known Member

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    Since N. T. Wright is the gold standard of conservative Biblical scholarship today, it's worth hearing what he has to say about predestination and election as taught in scripture:



    It seems Wright understands election as a corporate election of the church, for anyone who freely chooses to be in Christ, rather than individual souls to salvation determined at the beginning of time.

    As election was understood for Israel in the Old Testament, election was for Israel as a whole, rather than individuals to salvation.

    The New Testament term for the church "ekklesia," which is related to the English word "elect," was also used for the people of Israel in the Greek Septuagint.

    The Corporate View of Election


    The main difference between Calvinists and non-Calvinists is not whether God's enabling grace is necessary to repent and believe the Gospel, but whether this enabling grace is given to all people equally or just a select few:


     
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  2. anna ~ grace

    anna ~ grace Newbie Supporter

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    The difficulties of navigating Soteriology are vast. You learn one thing, than learn another, than… as you are beginning to possibly wander out of Calvinism and are beginning to look at other things, I would urge you, take your time, study, and pray most of all.

    There is more to Soteriology than Calvinism vs. Arminianism, though I think right now, you are trying to puzzle things out, and that’s ok.

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  3. Humble_Disciple

    Humble_Disciple Well-Known Member

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    I'd be interested in learning what Eastern Orthodoxy has to say on predestination and election, since few people outside of Orthodoxy seem to talk about their position.
     
  4. anna ~ grace

    anna ~ grace Newbie Supporter

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    A good place to ask that would be TAW;

    The Ancient Way - Eastern Orthodox

    Mind you, it’s for genuine questions and not for debating stuff, but there are a whole bunch of knowledgeable, kind people over there.
     
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