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My Rock Challenge

Discussion in 'Creation & Evolution' started by AV1611VET, Sep 15, 2011.

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  1. Split Rock

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    How did you come up with that date??
     
  2. Split Rock

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    The earth appears to be very old. Upon close inspection, it is 4.5 byo. Now, you can claim it appears to be 4.5 byo, but please do not say the earth [only] appears to be 4.5 byo. "Only" implies a lack of rigor that is disingenuous. Of course, the "appearance" question once again leads to "Trickster" god problem.
     
  3. AV1611VET

    AV1611VET BELIEVE IN MIRACLES Supporter

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    Usher's dating method.

    4004 BC + AD 2011 + 1 = 6016
     
  4. Loudmouth

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    None of that is found in the rock. Try again.
     
  5. AV1611VET

    AV1611VET BELIEVE IN MIRACLES Supporter

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    Try reading the question I was addressing; viz. "How long has it existed"?

    Since the earth is 4.57 billion years old, but has only been in existence for some 6000 years, the same goes for the earth as well -- (not to mention the universe, which is 13.7 billion years old, but has only been in existence for some 6000 years).

    (You do realize that the earth is [existentially] older than the rest of the universe, don't you?)
     
  6. Nostromo

    Nostromo Brian Blessed can take a hike

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    And you'd be wrong.
     
  7. Davian

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  8. Phred

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    Nothing comes into existence that way.

    But... if it did that would make your deity a liar. A deceiver.
     
  9. Nathan Poe

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    Ussher can take a hike.
     
  10. Nostromo

    Nostromo Brian Blessed can take a hike

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    So, AV, radiometric dating would give us an answer that's at least partly right according to you, but your method gives us an answer which is entirely incorrect.

    If science is myopic, what does that make you?
     
  11. AV1611VET

    AV1611VET BELIEVE IN MIRACLES Supporter

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    A Christian by election, and a Baptist by conviction.
     
  12. SkyWriting

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    No. Lets assume Jesus only did one miracle. JUST one.
    He caused a man born without eyes to see.
    ASSUMING just this one miracle.

    His new eyes are how old? If I know the guy, I say they are new eyes.
    Anyone else says he had them his whole life.

    His eyes are not "new" or "old".
    God Trumps both appearances and reality.
     
  13. Nathan Poe

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    Anyone else makes an incorrect conclusion based on incomplete information, and are deceived by appearances.

    You know the truth -- you simply choose to ignore it for obvious reasons.

    He had no eyes yesterday; he has eyes today.

    Ergo, his eyes are new.

    AV is not God -- for that matter, neither are you.

    I must say, I am getting so sick of reminding fundies of this simple yet humbling fact.
     
  14. Nick665

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    Xenu trumps both reality and God.
     
  15. Jazer

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    Everything in the body is suppose to regenerate itself over a 7 year period of time. It's funny how all those new cells take on the external appearance of old cells. The problem with cancer is getting the old diseased cells to die so they can be replaced with new healthy cells. That is why the treatment is to kill off the old cells to allow the body to make new cells.

    luke 17 33 "Whosoever shall seek to gain his life shall lose it: but whosoever shall lose his life' shall preserve it."
     
  16. Nick665

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    Really ? Everything ? Where did you hear that one ?
     
  17. Nostromo

    Nostromo Brian Blessed can take a hike

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    And wrong as a result.
     
  18. Tiberius

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    1. Because the rock was created ex nihilo 10,000 years ago.

    2. 10,000 years and 10,000 years, respectively.

    This was easy!
     
  19. Tiberius

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    You telling us that this passage is describing a treatment for cancer?
     
  20. AV1611VET

    AV1611VET BELIEVE IN MIRACLES Supporter

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    Let's make it harder then.

    Suppose this rock comes into existence tomorrow, with the same embedded age?

    Is your answer the same?
     
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