My COVID-19 Challenge

[AV1611VET]

Has Mother Nature created COVID-19 to keep the population in check?

Maybe by way of Malthusian Catastrophe? Darwin Population Limit? Natural Selection? or something else?

I personally don't think so.

 

[Brightmoon]

Covid 19 is a viral disease that infected another animal species and that has now started to infect ours . The only reason we’re concerned about it is because it infects our species. If a pandemic affected kinorynchs or remipedes you wouldn’t even know about it and wouldn’t care . That’s all , nothing to see here folks ! move along

 

[Jonathan Walkerin]

A virus that kills off some old and sick people. Hardly effective at keeping population in check.

 

[SkyWriting]

Covid 19 is a viral disease that infected another animal species and that has now started to infect ours . The only reason we’re concerned about it is because it infects our species. If a pandemic affected kinorynchs or remipedes you wouldn’t even know about it and wouldn’t care . That’s all , nothing to see here folks ! move along

Remipedes should be required to wear gloves.

remipedes - Google Search

 

[Brightmoon]

Nah you should wear gloves if you run across one , they’re venomous!

 

[Brightmoon]

A virus that kills off some old and sick people. Hardly effective at keeping population in check.

the problem is that old and sick are not only ones dying. Not every one who recovers just goes on about their business either. There are some nasty sequelae from this virus. It’s not just a respiratory virus , it attacks other organs as well

 

[Shemjaza]

Has Mother Nature created COVID-19 to keep the population in check?

Maybe by way of Malthusian Catastrophe? Darwin Population Limit? Natural Selection? or something else?

I personally don't think so.

I agree.

It's just a nasty virus that unfortunately is dangerous to us they way we live.

I feel like projecting the effects of the virus onto the will a deity either metaphorical like Mother Nature or literal the God of Abraham is shirking our own responsibilities to deal with the situation.

 

[AV1611VET]

I feel like projecting the effects of the virus onto the will a deity either metaphorical like Mother Nature or literal the God of Abraham is shirking our own responsibilities to deal with the situation.

Leviticus 11:13 And these are they which ye shall have in abomination among the fowls; they shall not be eaten, they are an abomination: the eagle, and the ossifrage, and the ospray,
14 And the vulture, and the kite after his kind;
15 Every raven after his kind;
16 And the owl, and the night hawk, and the cuckow, and the hawk after his kind,
17 And the little owl, and the cormorant, and the great owl,
18 And the swan, and the pelican, and the gier eagle,
19 And the stork, the heron after her kind, and the lapwing, and the bat.

Translation: Bats are off-limits to human consumption.

God knew what He was talking about, didn't He?

 

[Shemjaza]

Leviticus 11:13 And these are they which ye shall have in abomination among the fowls; they shall not be eaten, they are an abomination: the eagle, and the ossifrage, and the ospray,
14 And the vulture, and the kite after his kind;
15 Every raven after his kind;
16 And the owl, and the night hawk, and the cuckow, and the hawk after his kind,
17 And the little owl, and the cormorant, and the great owl,
18 And the swan, and the pelican, and the gier eagle,
19 And the stork, the heron after her kind, and the lapwing, and the bat.

Translation: Bats are off-limits to human consumption.

God knew what He was talking about, didn't He?

It probably entered the human population via a bat... but the months and months of reaction to virus are irrelevant to the original origin.

I'm pretty sure Leviticus also bans lobsters and oysters. (That would have made my trip to Maine a whole lot less fun).

 

[RushMAN]

Has Mother Nature created COVID-19 to keep the population in check?

Maybe by way of Malthusian Catastrophe? Darwin Population Limit? Natural Selection? or something else?

I personally don't think so.

Nope, man did it. One group did it

 

[AV1611VET]

I'm pretty sure Leviticus also bans lobsters and oysters.

Oh, dear!

You want COVID-20 and COVID-21?

 

[AV1611VET]

Nope, man did it.

Man did it?

Man is the target.

Or are you saying scientists put the strain together in a laboratory?

Reminds me of this movie I once saw at the drive-in:

 

[RushMAN]

Or are you saying scientists put the strain together in a laboratory?

This and a certain set, can't say more

 

[Brightmoon]

Oh boy I remember that one . I never saw it though. I was thinking more the Andromeda Strain . Btw Covid 19 isn’t a man made virus. It just evolved the ability to attack humans and probably others of the Hominidae species. Bats are interesting as far as their immune systems are concerned and it makes them good reservoirs for diseases that can spread to other species . I’ll see if I can find that article.

 

[Brightmoon]

Here’s an article that laymen can understand about how bats’ immune systems spread viruses to other species . It’s a photo you’ll have to google.

 

[Brightmoon]

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Leviticus 11:13 And these are they which ye shall have in abomination among the fowls; they shall not be eaten, they are an abomination: the eagle, and the ossifrage, and the ospray,
14 And the vulture, and the kite after his kind;
15 Every raven after his kind;
16 And the owl, and the night hawk, and the cuckow, and the hawk after his kind,
17 And the little owl, and the cormorant, and the great owl,
18 And the swan, and the pelican, and the gier eagle,
19 And the stork, the heron after her kind, and the lapwing, and the bat.

Translation: Bats are off-limits to human consumption.

God knew what He was talking about, didn't He?

But people eat swans. But bats aren’t fowl .
Ossifrage what a lovely word for a lammergeier. It literally means bone breaker. Honestly I wouldn’t eat a vulture or lammergeier vulture either

 

[sjastro]

Leviticus 11:13 And these are they which ye shall have in abomination among the fowls; they shall not be eaten, they are an abomination: the eagle, and the ossifrage, and the ospray,
14 And the vulture, and the kite after his kind;
15 Every raven after his kind;
16 And the owl, and the night hawk, and the cuckow, and the hawk after his kind,
17 And the little owl, and the cormorant, and the great owl,
18 And the swan, and the pelican, and the gier eagle,
19 And the stork, the heron after her kind, and the lapwing, and the bat.

Translation: Bats are off-limits to human consumption.

God knew what He was talking about, didn't He?

Benjamin Franklin indeed showed eating kites in stormy weather can prove deadly.

 

[SelfSim]

What gets me is that the SARS-Cov-2 virus is referred to as a 'novel' virus.

The idea that bats may have hosted it sometime in the recent past, is an inference .. albeit being largely based on experiences from how other similar viral diseases have acquired other infectious properties (which, in this case, the main proprety would be the ACE-II receptor affinity).

Yet, the suspected culprit - bats, are also hosts for the closest match to SARS-Cov-2, which is not contagious to humans. (This is the virus the Wuhan researches had in their labs .. which I think also gave rise to all the Chinese conspiracy theories).

Firstly, if the suspected ancestor (or even a preceding strain?) was the non infectious (to humans) bat hosted virus(?), then SARS-Cov-2 doesn't seem to be too 'novel' to me, other than its the first time we humans have had to deal with it(?)

Secondly, it is given the designation of 'SARS-2' which would seem to be saying that it is classified in the same ways as SARS-1, indeed, both are positive sense, single strand RNA (corona) viruses. How do we know that SARS-Cov-2 didn't have some previous encounter with SARS-Cov-1 in humans and that humans might also be a prior host? This doesn't rule out the bat source idea .. but it does lay some more 'ownership' for the pandemic on us humans (in terms of how SARS-1 was dealt with)?

There's still seems to be a lot about how this thing all came about, which isn't fully known yet (unless someone has some more recent updates on that front?)

 

[VirOptimus]

Has Mother Nature created COVID-19 to keep the population in check?

Maybe by way of Malthusian Catastrophe? Darwin Population Limit? Natural Selection? or something else?

I personally don't think so.

Oh my, so much fail, so much wrong.

”Mother nature” is a metaphysical construct, i.e. magic/god(s). It is not something that its meaningful to discuss.

 

[AV1611VET]

It is not something that its meaningful to discuss.

Might learn something mighten you?