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Mustard seed size of faith. (Are you saved or not?)

Discussion in 'General Theology' started by CCHIPSS, Sep 20, 2017.

  1. CCHIPSS

    CCHIPSS Love will overcome evil (Romans 12:9-21)

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    Some people asked me how much must they donate and serve to be saved. I told them it isn't so much about giving, but loving. How much do you love your neighbors? How much do you love the least of these.

    If someone has a small mustard seed size of faith, they will also have a mustard seed size of love for God and their neighbors. And so they will sacrafice a mustard seed size amount of time, money and effort to help the poor, homeless. And they will spread the Gospel only with a mustard seed size of effort.

    But even then there is great news! It is better to sleep on the streets of gold in heaven, then owning a multi billion dollar island on earth. It is more blessed to be a homeless person in heaven than a billionaire on earth. So if you don't care about the treasures in heaven, go ahead and only have a tiny mustard seed size of faith. At least you will be in heaven!

    What I worry for instead are those that don't even have that mustard seed size of faith. They hate God and hate God's laws. So they instead delight and rejoice in evil. They go toward hate and hurt. They harm their neighbors for selfish gains, and they delight and rejoice in their victim's sufferings. They love sin too much to let it go. Any sort of apparent holiness are fake. They want the outside image of a Christian while inside they delight and rejoice in evil, hatred and hurt. So they seek to kill, steal and destroy every chance they get.

    Even the Bible they will use as a sword to hurt others. And the more sermons they listen to and more of the bible they know, they sharper and deadlier their sword becomes.

    No one can love God and hate any of their neighbors at the same time (1 John 4:18-21). If someone loves God they will become a loving person. And a loving person loves everyone, even their very worst enemies, to the best of their abilities.

    For example if someone loves only White People yet hates the Blacks, or the Chinese, or the Hispanic, that person is not a Christian! Do not be deceived! Love will not pick and choose. Conditional love isn't true love at all. You are either with God or with Satan. If you are with God you would love everyone. If you are with Satan then you will pick and choose who to love. But even those are just a lie. At the end the only person you love is yourself. You only love those few people because it benefits you somehow. Because after seeing Jesus' sacrafice for you and if you still can justify how you can un-love someone, you don't actually love God. You hate God so you just imagine and made up your own false version of a god.

    And if anyone deny the evil of any clearly written sin's, they hate God and hate God's laws. For example if everyone is homosexual, the human race would go extinct! Hence even if you are homosexual, you must admit that it is wrong. If you say homosexual is right, then you want the human race to go extinct. That is the result. God's law is love and life. Sin is hatred and death.

    By this they also justify putting their neighbors into concentration camps and gassing them all the death. They say the ends justify the mean. They say by gassing the Jews to death they are loving and protecting the White race. When in fact they are murdering and they call murdering love. And they delight and rejoice in stealing the homes, money and jobs away from the Jews that they were murdering. They claimed that the Jews stole from them, so they are justified to murder and steal back from the Jews. It was highway robbery on a national scale. And then they go to church every Sunday singing hymns and praises. They can justify to the world all they want but God sees the truth inside their evil hearts. That's why their singing are detestable to God. (Amos 5:21-24) They are the children of Satan, who has been a murderer since the beginning.

    These false prophets will receive the greater condemnation. The hottest and most painful fires of hell are reserved for them. They would be better off being a total atheist than being a false Christian.

    So we either love everyone to various degrees. Or we hate everyone to various degrees. Love requires emptying one self and self-sacrifices, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for it. Are you on God's side in love? Or are you on Satan's side in hatred and pain? Do you delight and rejoice in God's righteousness and his love? Or do you delight and rejoice in Satan's sinfulness and hatred?

    So I urge you to examine yourselves. Start off being that weak Christian with only a tiny mustard seed size of faith. And have a tiny mustard seed size of love for God and all of your neighbors. You can grow from there and the Holy Spirit will guide you. Stay away from Satan and his evil hateful temptations.
     
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  2. -Luca

    -Luca Well-Known Member

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    How can I put faith in God?

    I love God with all my heart but I just do not know how to put complete faith in him.
     
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  3. CCHIPSS

    CCHIPSS Love will overcome evil (Romans 12:9-21)

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    Faith comes from facts. Christianity is not a blind faith. There are solid historical evidence of Christ's death and resurrection. To start I would read the book "The Case of Christ".

    And I don't mean to offend, but let me say here that no one can love God with all their heart. Even Peter didn't.

    Do you love all your neighbors? Who is your worst enemies? Do you love that enemy? This might be shocking. But how much faith in God you have is directly related to how much love you have for your enemies.

    Do you donate and volunteer to help the homeless, the drug addicts, the prostitutes, etc?

    Once again start off small. Start with that mustard seed size of faith. Have that mustard seed size of love for God and all of your neighbours. Donate a tiny tiny bit. Volunteer a tiny tiny bit. Forgive your worst enemies a tiny bit. Grow from there.
     
  4. -Luca

    -Luca Well-Known Member

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    But then how would loving my neighbours or giving money to the poor help with my faith?
     
  5. Lilly54

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  6. CCHIPSS

    CCHIPSS Love will overcome evil (Romans 12:9-21)

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    There are usually 2 reasons why people loss their faith.

    1) God just feel very far away right now. My life is going terribly. etc
    2) I have some questions that the bible cannot answer.

    In the first case, the solution is to be firm in the historical evidence of Jesus and his resurrection. That means Jesus literally died and literally resurrected. Like I said there are plenty of historical evidence to support this. I suggest you start by reading the book "A Case for Christ".

    Also there is an excellent sermon series by Andy Stanley called "Who Needs God?"

    North Point

    You have to understand that the fact of a historical Jesus is unrelated to your circumstances. So it doesn't matter if you don't "feel" Jesus, you just lost your job, your mother just died, or you are suffering from cancer, or you had been single for 40 years, or your husband left you, etc. Your faith must be built on the solid foundation of the historical Jesus.

    God never promised us a solid life here on earth. God only promised us great treasures in heaven.

    In the second case, if you let me know these questions maybe I can provide some answers. But at the end of the day, there are a million questions and not all of them can be answered. Our faith is once again based solidly in the historical Jesus, his death and resurrection. Our faith is not based on why DNA wasn't written in the bible, why evolution wasn't written in the bible, etc.
     
  7. Lilly54

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  8. Lilly54

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    Hi
    All great points.
    I think prayer throughout the day is so important. It's all about checking in with headquarters! I keep Christian books in strategic locations, in the bathroom, bedroom, kitchen, lounge. Whenever I have time, I continue my readings. My kindle is vital. I'm saying keep thoughts on Jesus a d live like he wants us to.

    Of course there are ups and downs in life. Tough days where you're rushing around and tired. I find when most stressed is when I have forgotten to pray, then I bring myself back to Jesus. Ask his guidance. I'm specific in asking for where I need help.
    My main point is we are never alone, we have the greatest most beautiful power in the universe to call upon. How great is that? How lucky we are that we have the understanding of this. So many walk in darkness,trying and failing of course to live by their own strength.
    Sorry to go on a bit, but I love talking about how wonderful is the joy of believing in our precious Lord.
     
  9. Maria.V.H

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    I think that having faith like a mustard seed can be a good thing like you said, it´s better than nothing. What i see is often when people believe too much they loose something, their sense of reason in some way, they take it to the next level, a level that is not true or real, they become blinded, so i like people who believes less and i don´t think there is anything wrong with that at all.

    When we as people believe something we have a tendency to loose our feet on the ground, we don´t see things the way they are, we become brainwashed and think our truth is the only way, and would give everything to put our believes on others, because we believe so much. I´m sorry but it sounds like when we have found God we are angels, and everything is amazing, unfortunately it´s not the case, we can´t generalize like that. In my view there can be good people who does not believe in God as there can be bad people who believes in God. Yes, maybe if we choose God we become more aware of the good things, and choose the right things, but we are still siners, and nothing we do is ever good enough, we will never be perfect.

    I don´t get why we want to make everyone Christian, I think it´s wrong and i think it´s our ego talking. Why can´t we make people decide what they want themselves??? And why can´t people be just as good as us no matter what they do or don´t believe in??? If our hearts were pure we would not wish for others to be like us, we would know that the highest love is to let people be people and give them free will, just like God did for us and love them unconditionally. So what if our neighbor is an atheist?? we can´t love them regardless?? I think we as Christians should get to a point where we learn about the great love we should be practising. A love that does not devide, a love that can handle when people are "wrong" and does not fit inside our box, i think we should think about that. I think we should get to a point where humanity speaks louder than anything, and that we all can be united no matter what religion we have or don´t have as it should not devide us, we are humans before anything and we should learn to stick together.

    I´m sorry if i have harsh views, i did not mean to offend anyone, i´m not perfect either, i just wanted to speak my truth.
     
  10. CCHIPSS

    CCHIPSS Love will overcome evil (Romans 12:9-21)

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    I think a lot of church focus on "non-believers are going to hell" way too much. Now that statement is totally true. But what a lot of churches forget that a false believer will get even greater punishment. Yes non-believers will be punished, but they at least never claimed to follow Christ. The false believers taints God's great name and their punishments will be far greater.

    So if a church preach the Gospel to someone and that person becomes a false believer, it would have been much better off if the church never bothered preaching that Gospel to that person.

    Am I saying for the church to not preach the Gospel? Of course not! What I am saying is that the church shouldn't just end at preaching the Gospel. Yes know the good news and accept Jesus. But after that our lives have to reflect out faith. At the core of it, faith leads to love. And love leads to action.

    Ideally we should love God with our all in all. All out soul, mind and strength. But that isn't a requirement for salvation. These are for greater treasures in heaven. And yes you can bet the treasures are well worth the effort, more than we can ever imagine. But you don't need to love God this much to be saved. You just need a mustard seed size of faith to be saved. And from that you have a tiny bit of love and do a tiny bit of good works. And hopefully you can grow from there.

    And I also worry for those church that teaches about everything but not love. They will teach you stuff like "Did Noah had sex with his wife on the ark?" "Who are the Nephilims?" etc. Those are interesting yes. But you sit in their sermons for 5 years and you never heard once about "Love your neighbours as yourself." Hence they teaches everything else except the Greatest Commandant and the Great Commission.

    Others found love is too boring for them, so they instead rather hear about hateful sins. They rather hear some fancy sermon on how the White Race is superior and how God is ok with them hating other minority races. Or how nuking North Korea, killing millions upon millions of civilians (who are victims under a dictatorship, btw), is perfectly justified by the bible. They don't want to hear about love. They rather hear about how their hateful sins are justified by the bible. (2 Timothy 4:3-4)

    If a church runs this way, yes why bother preaching the Gospel? If the leaders are false teachers themselves, they would create false apostles. Hence Jesus is very hash against false teachers. (Matthew 23:13)

    Yes I do worry about the eternal salvation of the non-believers. But I worry more about all these false believers in the churches. And I say this not meaning they don't believe in all the right things. But that they don't have any love. I can't even count on them to do a mustard seed size of good deed, because they don't even have a mustard seed size of love for their neighbours. Instead they preach hatred and encourage sin, INSIDE THE CHURCH! In fact when they delight and rejoice in sins and evil this much, any kind of so-called good works they do are meaningless. Because those are just for show to trick others. There is no true love inside of them. Hence I don't even want to ask them to donate a penny or volunteer for a minute. Any good works without love is meaningless. Even faith without love is meaningless. (1 Corinthians 13:1-3)

    A true Christian cannot go serve the homeless on Sunday, and then turn around and gas the Jews to death on Mondays. This makes no sense to God. You gassed the Jews because you are a hateful person. Your so-called volunteer to help the homeless was just a camouflage, a mask to hide who you truly are: A child of Satan. You only serve the homeless because you can boast about it and others will say what a "wonderful" person you are. You justified this to yourself saying that the Jews stole from you and your White people first. But in your heart you are not satisfied with what God has given you and you are jealous of what God has given to the Jews. Hence you delight and rejoice in killing, stealing and destroying the Jews. Your stole their house, money and jobs away from them and claim them as your own. Your murdered the Jews in cold blood and you encouraged all your friends to do the same. And you don't feel any guilt but sleep like a baby every night. And you go to church on Sundays to sing hymns and praises to God.

    How will you escape the upcoming wraith of God? You think you are saved just by being part of a church? You think you are saved because your parents were Christians? God's commandant is clear: Love your neighbours as yourself. If you think you have knowledge, the demons knows more about God than you. If you think you fear God, the demons fear God more than you. If you don't love your neighbours then it proves that you also don't love God. What then set you apart from the demons? Demons are heading into hell. And you are even more so heading into hell. (James 2:14-20)

    You are either a loving person or you are a hateful person. If your love is small, only mustard seed size, you would still be a loving person if you try to love all of your neighbors. But if you hate anyone you are a hateful person and God's spirit is NOT inside of you. Because everyone is created by God and loved by God. Rich or poor. Smart or dumb. Healthy or disabled. White or Black or Asian or Hispanic. And Christians are call to love all of God's creations. We love the worst of sinners because Jesus first loved us, which we ourselves are the worst of sinners. True love will not pick and choose. True love is unconditional.

    That's why I urge everyone to look for the mustard seed size of faith and love inside of you. This is important. Do not side with Satan in your self righteousness. Make sure you are on God's side of love.
     
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  11. faroukfarouk

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    John chapter three makes for clear and good reading; and John's First Epistle has material about assurance of faith in the Lord Jesus/
     
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  13. Akilah

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    I have given God my problems. I also had faith the size of a watermelon and nothing works. So maybe he is particular about who his words are for. I was not born into christianity and think sometimes that is the reason why. All I know is I love him dearly but im tiered of being disappointed by men and God. It hurts that I have changed for him and I still feel unwanted. Not recognized. Maybe naturally im evil and I dont know it. Maybe I have a curse that makes me and my prayers invisible. I want peace that passes all understanding. My question I guess is why say that I can have these things or what my heart desires when he always says no? People say maybe God didnt want that job for you.... Well where is the job he wants for me? My bills wont pay itself nor will my hungry babies bellies. So i dont understand christianity I guess. All I want to know is how? How can I better my life eith him or without. Im lost I do not know my way. I dont even know if my master wants me to find my way. If God doesnt want something for me and I have built up a faith in it then we dont really have a choice now do we? What is the point of everything if there are contingency with them? You can have what ever you want if you apply faith. But then if he says no then huh? What do i need faith for or why let Jesus take the wheel but he works on a differeng time so I might get evocted because his time is not earthly time. Im confused and many times I have come close to abandoning God the way I feel abandoned amd I know it wont hurt him for me to leave but it will hurt me if I cant understand and then I leave. I have way too much health problens and financial problens to not have him bit if nothing none of his words and prayers work for me then I must survive for my kids in any means necessary. Someone please help me.... Thanks ...lost sheep
     
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