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Must a nation be educated or have educated citizens to become a democracy?

Discussion in 'The Kitchen Sink' started by mathinspiration, Mar 19, 2019.

  1. mathinspiration

    mathinspiration Active Member

    United States
    Can you be a democracy with illiterate people?
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  2. Rene Loup

    Rene Loup A saved wolf among sheep. Supporter

    A democracy is only as good as the people participating in them.
  3. Spherical

    Spherical Active Member Supporter

    United States
    I agree with this. I think the concept of "educated" would need to be clarified. OP, you seem to oppose it to illiteracy. That is one thing. I do believe that citizens should be "educated" in that they must be aware of their rights and duties and what the different branches of government's roles are, as well as their limits. Conscious citizenship (even if the citizens are illiterate) is definitely a great aid in the good practice of democracy. Hence why I would shift the focus from literacy/academic education to awareness, responsibility, sense of common good, and active participation. Otherwise it risks developing into demagogy and ochlocracy.

    Can you be a democracy with illiterate people?
    With illiterate people? Yes. With only illiterate people? I don't think so.

    Must a nation be educated to become a democracy?
    There is a certain degree of education needed to run a democracy, but I'm not necessarily referring to academic degrees.

    Must a nation have educated citizens to become a democracy?

    Again, this depends on what we call "education."
    Last edited: Mar 20, 2019
  4. buzuxi02

    buzuxi02 Veteran

    Eastern Orthodox
    An educated citizenry can be as bad as a stupid one.
  5. Zoii

    Zoii Well-Known Member

    whoa - you really think that. Astounding
  6. buzuxi02

    buzuxi02 Veteran

    Eastern Orthodox
    Just look at the United States with its epidemic of obesity, declining life span, cancer rates, autism epidemic, the high murder rates in certain cities, slums every few miles, college debt (accumulated by taking worthless majors that does not increase IQ), bizarre social concepts such as gender fluidity etc, now compare that to a 'stupid' country like Turkey, where NONE of the above apply.
  7. Petros2015

    Petros2015 Well-Known Member

    Eastern Orthodox
    I guess if no one could read it would really cut down on the paperwork... The government would have to announce laws over loudspeakers. Tax collection would be difficult. Maybe you could draw a picture in crayon to show how much income you were making? I guess there would be no need for a postal service if no one could read.

    lol. Yes... one can elect leader even if one is uneducated. Or a educated leader could take advantage of the uneducated to get elected. I'm not certain if that's a democracy at that point, even though the votes are cast?

    Is a democracy - "a nation whose leaders are officials elected by votes from the general population"
    Or is it "a nation whose leaders represent the will of the people, chosen by election"
    What happens when the will of the people is manipulated through mis-education and propaganda?

    Maybe that would be a Manipu-Ocracy.

    Can you be a democracy if all your people spend all their time watching TV?