Muslims do not know who they worship

[Rajni]

Do you believe Hindus would then count under that same idea?

From what I understand, they're technically monotheistic,
with the various deities simply being facets of the One.

 

[CherubRam]

'I am the Lord, your God, Who took you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall not have the gods of others in My presence.'

Amen....and amen. This is the One I worship. There is none other.

The correct translation is "Yahwah." So then, we do worship the same God. But what about the other Muslims?

Exodus 20:2
“I am Yahwah your Elohiym, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery.
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations

 

[CherubRam]

That's the directive supposedly given to Moses and the
Israelites specifically, yes. But He has had countless
names before that.

Titles are not personal names.

 

[dlamberth]

From what I understand, they're technically monotheistic,
with the various deities simply being facets of the One.

Hindu's are monotheistic in a Panentheist sort of way.

 

[CherubRam]

Muslims should stop using the word "Allah."

 

[CherubRam]

Well yes n then the prostestants against catholics in Ireland and against hindus in India.... all religions have blood on their hands.

It was the Catholics who attacked the Judaic Christians, not the other way around.

 

[Zoii]

It was the Catholics who attacked the Judaic Christians, not the other way around.

Well prostants have more than their fair share of blood on their hands as well as institutional child sexual abuse.... as do catholics ... as do evangelists

 

[CherubRam]

Well prostants have more than their fair share of blood on their hands as well as institutional child sexual abuse.... as do catholics ... as do evangelists

You have some strange ideas.

 

[TheOldWays]

That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard.

Not surprising when one puts excess importance on a thought form that to them resembles god.

 

[Danoded]

Allah is Satan.His followers deny that Jesus is God in the Flesh...... “A” son of god as opposed to “ THE “ Son Of God——- just enough of a little twist to send you to Hell. Allah’s subtle plan.Satan was “ subtle” in The Garden of Eden....some things never change....

Yeah they worship satan, but Jesus was the Son of God, not God Himself.

 

[Zoii]

You have some strange ideas.

Nothing strange about fact

 

[Rajni]

Titles are not personal names.

That's what I've been trying to tell you.

Muslims should stop using the word "Allah."

I'm pretty sure people aren't going to stop calling God
"God" in their own native language simply because some
random person on the interwebz tells them to.

You have some strange ideas.

That's a point of fact, not merely an idea.

Even ISKCON, a Hinduism-related group, has struggled
with scandals similar to those in the Catholic Church.

Institutionalized spirituality seems to go south sooner or
later. Therefore, I think it's better off if kept at the
individual level.

 

[dlamberth]

That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard.

I'd replace your word "stupidest" with the words "most enlightened".

 

[dlamberth]

Titles are not personal names.

And, personal names are not persons.

 

[Netgear]

Muslims should stop using the word "Allah."

You should stop worrying about them.

 

[AskTheFamily]

A name is just a word to refer to a person. A title is not a name necessarily while a name is necessarily a title. It is the title they constantly refer themselves to, so it's a title they are known by.

A name is not the person and the person is not the name, and usually they have little to do with the other except their parents chose them that name and that is what they are known by.

You can have the best name but not be a good person. You can have a horrible name and be a wonderful person.

Titles on the other hand are earned and they represent something of value.

When it comes to God, he was there before human languages existed.

Everyone agrees God has many titles, like the Compassionate, the Holy, The Living, etc...

What would God choose out of his names? Would he prefer one human language over another, and name himself with some title in that language.

And would he prefer one title over another? And what good would that do? Since God is One, one title is not to be preferred over another.


Yahweh refers to the fact God is a living being and is the source of life and the true life. This theme is one of the most emphasized themes in the Quran.

However, when it comes to his name, as he is the living one, the connection to him is alive, it's a life line and it's a living name.

That is why God replies that he should be known as the living, not simply a concept in the head that you hope exists, but a real living being that is connected to you.

But again, what is the living? What is the living? What is the loving? What is the Powerful? What is the Kind One?

Words cannot do him justice, so God instead has his living words brought to life, in form of his images, which are his beautiful names (personal names yes) as well.

Adam in the beginning is emphasized to be created in God's Image. Than Seth is emphasized to be set by God by what God named him.

We get to the generations of Noah that went astray because they named themselves with the name of God.

Of course, people naming themselves Yahweh would not provide a eternal lesson on how humans deviate.

Rather what is clear is that what was meant by that was the likes of Seth and Enoch who were chosen and set by God like Adam was chosen and they are chosen as being the name of God, that is what is meant by being created in his image.

It then verifies this by emphasize on the kingship of Abraham and his holy family, that it's meant to be in his offspring.

Envy regarding the chosen ones and their followers has always been the path of evil.

When it finally get's to Samuel, this theme becomes apparent. His name literally means "name of God".

So being God's Name is a station that belongs to the Exalted Leaders, a leadership that people took for themselves and hence named themselves with the name of God.

This is how people go astray. They take the representation and connection to the one who saw everything he created as good, for themselves, they vie with one another over it, and commit and choose different idols with respect to it.

But God is saying in a majestic manner, whether Noah and Abraham existed, whether Aaron's family was a real family meant for the exalted leadership or not, the fact, is, these are not just stories.

They are showing an essential way of God, a must for him to set people like Seth and Adam, and navigate people to justice by people like Samuel who's name literally means name of God.

Now why is the name Yahweh emphasized. The same reason Quran emphasizes on the name Al-Hayu, which means the Living, and it emphasizes that God is the true life of all life, he is by which all things exist and get their definition from, his vision defines them and his life provides them.

The height of Quran is said to be Ayatul Kursi. And there it emphasizes on Yahweh in Arabic.

But when it comes to the personal name he has chosen for himself, that is clear, by Samuel and what has been mentioned, that is the face of God, the Image of God, the Light of God, the word of God brought to life, that is his name.

It's not something he takes lightly if we ignore his name nor easy if we take false claimants of his name.

Indeed the wrath is upon those who don't exalt his beautiful names that he has chosen for himself, and that God is the one to who belongs the highest likeness in the universe, though there is nothing like him.

And may we be guided to the peace we long for and accept it and not fight it.

 

[CherubRam]

A name is just a word to refer to a person. A title is not a name necessarily while a name is necessarily a title. It is the title they constantly refer themselves to, so it's a title they are known by.

A name is not the person and the person is not the name, and usually they have little to do with the other except their parents chose them that name and that is what they are known by.

You can have the best name but not be a good person. You can have a horrible name and be a wonderful person.

Titles on the other hand are earned and they represent something of value.

When it comes to God, he was there before human languages existed.

Everyone agrees God has many titles, like the Compassionate, the Holy, The Living, etc...

What would God choose out of his names? Would he prefer one human language over another, and name himself with some title in that language.

And would he prefer one title over another? And what good would that do? Since God is One, one title is not to be preferred over another.


Yahweh refers to the fact God is a living being and is the source of life and the true life. This theme is one of the most emphasized themes in the Quran.

However, when it comes to his name, as he is the living one, the connection to him is alive, it's a life line and it's a living name.

That is why God replies that he should be known as the living, not simply a concept in the head that you hope exists, but a real living being that is connected to you.

But again, what is the living? What is the living? What is the loving? What is the Powerful? What is the Kind One?

Words cannot do him justice, so God instead has his living words brought to life, in form of his images, which are his beautiful names (personal names yes) as well.

Adam in the beginning is emphasized to be created in God's Image. Than Seth is emphasized to be set by God by what God named him.

We get to the generations of Noah that went astray because they named themselves with the name of God.

Of course, people naming themselves Yahweh would not provide a eternal lesson on how humans deviate.

Rather what is clear is that what was meant by that was the likes of Seth and Enoch who were chosen and set by God like Adam was chosen and they are chosen as being the name of God, that is what is meant by being created in his image.

It then verifies this by emphasize on the kingship of Abraham and his holy family, that it's meant to be in his offspring.

Envy regarding the chosen ones and their followers has always been the path of evil.

When it finally get's to Samuel, this theme becomes apparent. His name literally means "name of God".

So being God's Name is a station that belongs to the Exalted Leaders, a leadership that people took for themselves and hence named themselves with the name of God.

This is how people go astray. They take the representation and connection to the one who saw everything he created as good, for themselves, they vie with one another over it, and commit and choose different idols with respect to it.

But God is saying in a majestic manner, whether Noah and Abraham existed, whether Aaron's family was a real family meant for the exalted leadership or not, the fact, is, these are not just stories.

They are showing an essential way of God, a must for him to set people like Seth and Adam, and navigate people to justice by people like Samuel who's name literally means name of God.

Now why is the name Yahweh emphasized. The same reason Quran emphasizes on the name Al-Hayu, which means the Living, and it emphasizes that God is the true life of all life, he is by which all things exist and get their definition from, his vision defines them and his life provides them.

The height of Quran is said to be Ayatul Kursi. And there it emphasizes on Yahweh in Arabic.

But when it comes to the personal name he has chosen for himself, that is clear, by Samuel and what has been mentioned, that is the face of God, the Image of God, the Light of God, the word of God brought to life, that is his name.

It's not something he takes lightly if we ignore his name nor easy if we take false claimants of his name.

Indeed the wrath is upon those who don't exalt his beautiful names that he has chosen for himself, and that God is the one to who belongs the highest likeness in the universe, though there is nothing like him.

And may we be guided to the peace we long for and accept it and not fight it.

God says that He has one personal name, all the rest are titles. That name is Yahwah! Translated it means "LIFE BEGAN."

 

[CherubRam]

And, personal names are not persons.

Personal names refer to a person.

 

[CherubRam]

You should stop worrying about them.

If I did not care about the Muslim people I would not have said anything to warn them.

John 10:1
[ The Good Shepherd and His Sheep ] “Very truly I tell you Pharisees, anyone who does not enter the sheep pen by the gate, but climbs in by some other way, is a thief and a robber.
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations

 

[CherubRam]

That's what I've been trying to tell you.


I'm pretty sure people aren't going to stop calling God
"God" in their own native language simply because some
random person on the interwebz tells them to.


That's a point of fact, not merely an idea.

Even ISKCON, a Hinduism-related group, has struggled
with scandals similar to those in the Catholic Church.

Institutionalized spirituality seems to go south sooner or
later. Therefore, I think it's better off if kept at the
individual level.

The word for God in Aramaic and Arabic is "IL."