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Multiple Realities Scientifically Proven; Adam Created, without, then with, Animals, is Possible.

Discussion in 'One Bread, One Body - Catholic' started by StevenMerten, Jun 4, 2019.

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  1. Michie

    Michie Human rights begin in the womb. Supporter

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    :rolleyes:
     
  2. StevenMerten

    StevenMerten I Love You, God!

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    Does everyone understand that the atheist scientist, 13.8 billion years from creation, guys are the 'Realism' guys? In the videos, they talk about how 'Realism', 'can maybe be salvaged' by some loophole. The dominating view of present day Quantum Mechanics is that there was no universe, until conscious man, which began with Adam, opened his eyes to look at the universe.

    Doesn't anyone else see this as a tremendous victory for Creationism? You cannot have 13.8 billion years of a creation of a universe, without a universe.

    Go God!
     
  3. jerry kelso

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    stevenmerten,

    1. There was a universe before Adam with conscious Lucifer and his angels. That was the original creation in Genesis 1:1.
    Whether the flood in v2was 13.8 billion years long or one day long the Bible doesn’t say. Jerry Kelso
     
  4. StevenMerten

    StevenMerten I Love You, God!

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    Hello Jerry,
    Please stop stalking me across the CF Forums.
    Start your own thread about how you believe that God's Six Days of Creation, in the Book of Genesis, from 'In the Beginning' to Adam on earth, is incorrect. Give your spiel on Satan on your own thread! Stop trying to derail my thread on how God works miracles in the everyday Quantum realm.
     
  5. Michie

    Michie Human rights begin in the womb. Supporter

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    It would be nice if OBOB would stop being stalked by these ridiculous threads. And stuff you try to fit in with your theories cut and pasted from your website. What does any of this have to do with anything we practice from the Catholic perspective? It's obsessive and weird. You have not much interest in anything else.
     
  6. jerry kelso

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    stevenmerten,

    1. This is Christian forums not a science forum.

    2. You are trying to take science to prove your context of the biblical creation.

    3. I am not stalking you but I would like a halfway logical answer.
    As far as I recall I have hardly conversed with you on anything so I found the statement “stalking you across the CF forums disengenous.

    4. I don’t have to derail you because the word of God does that.
    Jerry kelso
     
  7. StevenMerten

    StevenMerten I Love You, God!

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    Hi Michie,
    What does your water pump going out thread have to do with what we practice from the Catholic perspective?

    Stephen Hawking, was a well known God hating atheist scientist who, like other prideful atheist scientists, was out to mock God and destroy Christian's faith in God. So why was this God hating atheist scientist constantly down at the Vatican? He wasn't there seeking eternal salvation, he made a point of telling the world he was an Atheist!. Hawking was there to spit in God's Face, using his pumped up pride in being a world renown cosmologist.

    Using, state of the art, proven Quantum Theory science, I can destroy Stephen Hawking's evil human pride, in mocking God, and causing many Catholics and others to doubt God, due to Hawking's deceptions about Creation.

    You cannot have a physically existing 13.8 billion year creation, as (yet unproven) 'Realism', atheist scientists force the world to believe, if there was nothing physical in the universe, until conscious man, Adam, looks at it, as Quantum Theory scientists have proven.
     
  8. Michie

    Michie Human rights begin in the womb. Supporter

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    It's called fellowship, advise, getting prayer.

    Ummm yeah. :rolleyes:
     
  9. StevenMerten

    StevenMerten I Love You, God!

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    That works for me as well!
     
  10. Newtheran

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    Sounds a bit Gnosticy to me...
     
  11. StevenMerten

    StevenMerten I Love You, God!

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    Hello Newtheran,
    Neils Bohr once said, 'If you are not totally shocked by Quantum Mechanics, then you simply don't understand it.' 'The universe does not exist when man is not looking at it', sounds like silliness, insanity, magical illusion, yet, two of the greatest minds in science, Neils Bohr and Albert Einstein, spent decades debating, thinking and experimenting, on this issue. The quantum world of the actions of sub-atomic particles, is mind blowing.

    Since the study of Quantum Theory began, a hundred years ago, scientists have not been able to define just what reality is.
     
  12. StevenMerten

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    "From Wigner’s point of view, this is a “fact”—the superposition exists. And this fact suggests that a measurement cannot have taken place.

    But this is in stark contrast to the point of view of the friend, who has indeed measured the photon’s polarization and recorded it. The friend can even call Wigner and say the measurement has been done (provided the outcome is not revealed)."
    quoted from the article
    Does everyone understand why one scientist cannot tell the other scientist what his reality really looks like, in a dual reality experiment?

    The simple act of one scientist, calling the other scientist on the phone, and telling him what he sees, will cause their to be only one reality. That is like showing your friend a picture of the Eiffel tower you took on vacation. Once you show him the picture, your picture changes to look exactly like his picture he took of the Eiffel tower, a couple years earlier. Subatomic particle go into the past of physical time to do this, so you will really not see the change. Wow! This is wild!

    The scientific method is based on anyone and everyone looking at the results of your experiment. The results of your experiment changing, simply because others look at your experiment, makes it difficult, if not impossible, to lock down what our reality of the universe really is.

    "“The scientific method relies on facts, established through repeated measurements and agreed upon universally, independently of who observed them,” say Proietti and co. And yet in the same paper, they undermine this idea, perhaps fatally."
    quoted from the article​

    Again, Niels Bohr, 'Father of Quantum Theory' stated, 'If you are not totally Shocked by Quantum Mechanics, then you simply do not understand it.'
     
  13. StevenMerten

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    Can everyone see that there is no 13.8 billion year, 'Realism', creation? It is God who controls what our reality is to be, every nano-second of the day. The difference between what we see as a miracle, and what we see as everyday reality, is simply God, switching realities, at the subatomic level.
     
  14. Davidnic

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    Thread Closed For Review

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  15. Grumman Tomcat

    Grumman Tomcat The LORD is my Pilot Staff Member Supervisor Supporter

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    MOD HAT ON
    Thread closed permanently.
    After review it was decided that this topic does not fit well in OBOB.
    One of the discussion and debate boards is a better place for this topic. There is Creation & Theistic Evolution or Physical & Life Sciences with their child boards to choose from.

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