{MOVED} Questions of voter fraud after man finds 83 ballots shipped to a single address

[AlexDTX]

• Jerry Mosna found 83 mail-in ballots shipped to his apartment complex in San Pedro, California this weekend
• All 83 ballots were sent to the same address where a single 89-year-old woman lives

Questions of voter fraud after man finds 83 ballots shipped to single address | Daily Mail Online

 

[A_Thinker]

• Jerry Mosna found 83 mail-in ballots shipped to his apartment complex in San Pedro, California this weekend
• All 83 ballots were sent to the same address where a single 89-year-old woman lives

Questions of voter fraud after man finds 83 ballots shipped to single address | Daily Mail Online

Voter fraud ... in a primary ???

The article at your link says that it was a due to a "system error".

From your article ...

• The Los Angeles County Registrar's Office is investigating the incident
• It 'appears to be an isolated situation related to a system error that caused causing duplicate ballots to be issued to' a single voter's address

So then, ... no fraud ...

 

[A_JAY]

This "current news" post was a reprint of an article during the final days of the 2016 campaign:

"By Dailymail.com Reporter and Associated Press
Published: 15:27 EDT, 3 November 2016 | Updated: 17:29 EDT, 3 November 2016"


"As the presidential campaign has reached its final weeks, Donald Trump has repeatedly claimed that voter fraud could swing the election in Clinton's favor. "

Maybe voter fraud did swing the 2016 election!

 

[Hank77]

Since the 2016 election Trump investigated voter fraud and they couldn't find any major fraud going on or did they...maybe the fraud they found supported his election and that's why they very quietly dismantled the committee.

 

[Hazelelponi]

Since the 2016 election Trump investigated voter fraud and they couldn't find any major fraud going on or did they...maybe the fraud they found supported his election and that's why they very quietly dismantled the committee.

California refused to cooperate with the investigation, stating Russia was the only party responsible for fraud. The commission was disbanded when there was no state cooperation so we will literally never know how much voter fraud occurred in some states.

States Refuse To Cooperate With Trump Voter Fraud Probe

We just have to trust the dems who are busy mailing out stacks of ballots to addresses, so you know, in case someone doesn't mind filling them all out... lol.. move along, nothing to see here, nothing to see.

 

[Albion]

Not suir

Jerry Mosna found 83 mail-in ballots shipped to his apartment complex in San Pedro, California this weekend

All 83 ballots were sent to the same address where a single 89-year-old woman lives

Not surprising. One clue to how frequent such things will be can be seen in the words being used by apologists for universal mail-in balloting these days.

Formerly, the claim was that there has been no vote fraud. Now, however, after many instances of it have been discovered, they are saying "there is no evidence of massive voter fraud."

Well, with a statement like that, no amount of fraud can disprove the claim since "massive" can be expanded to mean almost anything!

In case anyone has not noticed this "adjustment" in responses given to the proven instances of voter fraud, pay attention to the discussions on TV or elsewhere as this topic continues to be a "hot" one.

And, by the way also, that is only about voter fraud. What the Original Post here brought to our attention might be dismissed as one small case of a simple foul-up in the routing of ballots or applications.

There have been literally MILLIONS of such ballots going astray, which in itself is reason for not trading our relatively safe system of voting--along with reasonable provisions for people who absolutely cannot get to the polls on election day--for a system that makes error and fraud much more likely.

 

[Hank77]

• Jerry Mosna found 83 mail-in ballots shipped to his apartment complex in San Pedro, California this weekend
• All 83 ballots were sent to the same address where a single 89-year-old woman lives

Questions of voter fraud after man finds 83 ballots shipped to single address | Daily Mail Online

I'd like to know how that investigation turned out. I'd bet that it was a mixup at the printing company which has happened recently.

 

[pescador]

Not suir

Not surprising. One clue to how frequent such things will be can be seen in the words being used by apologists for universal mail-in balloting these days.

Formerly, the claim was that there has been no vote fraud. Now, however, after many instances of it have been discovered, they are saying "there is no evidence of massive voter fraud."

Well, with a statement like that, no amount of fraud can disprove the claim since "massive" can be expanded to mean almost anything!

In case anyone has not noticed this "adjustment" in responses given to the proven instances of voter fraud, pay attention to the discussions on TV or elsewhere as this topic continues to be a "hot" one.

And, by the way also, that is only about voter fraud. What the Original Post here brought to our attention might be dismissed as one small case of a simple foul-up in the routing of ballots or applications.

There have been literally MILLIONS of such ballots going astray, which in itself is reason for not trading our relatively safe system of voting--along with reasonable provisions for people who absolutely cannot get to the polls on election day--for a system that makes error and fraud much more likely.

You said, "There have been literally MILLIONS of such ballots going astray, which in itself is reason for not trading our relatively safe system of voting--along with reasonable provisions for people who absolutely cannot get to the polls on election day--for a system that makes error and fraud much more likely."

Your evidence of this is ..? I can't accept your saying that MILLIONS of ballots have gone astray without some concrete evidence.

You also mention our relatively safe system of voting. Voting machines can be hacked in minutes as was demonstrated at the hackers' DEFCON convention. An 11-year-old(!) hacked into a Florida voting machine in => 8 minutes <=

Russia, China, and other bad actors can get into our electronic system of voting without much difficulty.

 

[hedrick]

The usual view is that getting more people to vote favors Democrats. But this election may be different. The people who are likely to feel most threatened by Corona are older people. Disallowing mail ballots is likely to move the average voter age lower, which will favor Democrats.

It's not like voting machines are free of issues.

One concern is that mailing millions of ballots will require lots of cooperation from the Postal Service. That is subject to interference from Trump.

I forsee a messy election, with lots of suits against states.

 

[pescador]

I am a senior and a Democrat. I am voting by mail to a) have my voted counted and b) remain healthy.

 

[FenderTL5]

• Jerry Mosna found 83 mail-in ballots shipped to his apartment complex in San Pedro, California this weekend
• All 83 ballots were sent to the same address where a single 89-year-old woman lives

Questions of voter fraud after man finds 83 ballots shipped to single address | Daily Mail Online

Isn't going through someone else's mailbox a violation of some sort?

 

[Albion]

Isn't going through someone else's mailbox a violation of some sort?

Sure, but so is voter fraud, so if someone intends to engage in it, he probably isn't likely to be deterred by the mailbox problem.

And of course, going through someone else's mailbox to obtain their ballot is only one of a number of different ways to cheat if this idea goes through.

 

[jgarden]

Most experts say voter fraud is extremely rare in the U.S., with one study by a Loyola Law School professor finding just 31 known cases of impersonation fraud out of 1 billion votes cast in U.S. elections between 2000 and 2014.

Questions of voter fraud after man finds 83 ballots shipped to single address | Daily Mail Online
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Questions of voter fraud after man finds 83 ballots shipped to a single address in his apartment

One wonders as to why Trump and his supporters are so willing to accept the denials by Putin concerning the Russian attempts to influence the 2016 Election - but harbor a deep mistrust that American citizens can't be trusted with mail-in ballots in the middle of a worldwide pandemic?

 

[Albion]

Most experts say voter fraud is extremely rare in the U.S., with one study by a Loyola Law School professor finding just 31 known cases of impersonation fraud out of 1 billion votes cast in U.S. elections between 2000 and 2014.

It's easy to tell that the potential for significant fraud is great by the way that the alibi above was worded.

Fraud by impersonation is probably one of the least common forms of cheating, but yet the "Law School professor" (which makes him an expert on elections...how?) makes it the be-all and end-all of his case.

Elsewhere, this recently made the news:

A whistleblower in Oregon, a non-citizen, revealed that she started receiving ballots in the mail after she changed her address with the Department of Motor Vehicles and the post office. There is documentary evidence to support her account.

She had no knowledge that she had been registered to vote, and she never requested to be registered to vote. No one even asked her if she wanted to be registered. Nevertheless, ballots arrived in her mailbox, addressed to her, in 2016, 2017, and 2018, for a total of five elections.

How many other non-citizens were automatically registered and sent ballots in this way is unknown.

 

[Sistrin]

Both of the statements quoted below constitute red herrings employed as obvious attempts at misdirection.

One wonders as to why Trump and his supporters are so willing to accept the denials by Putin concerning the Russian attempts to influence the 2016 Election...

Putin's denials have nothing to do with anyone's dismissal of liberal/Democrat foaming at the mouth accusations of Russian collusion and attempts to influence the 2016 election. It has everything to do with the simple truth not one fact to support the liberal/Democrat accusations of Russian collusion was ever found, that the charge itself was a complete fabrication and those involved in promoting that fabrication have been exposed as the corrupt, lying hacks they are. As for Russian attempts to influence, even those promoting that narrative have been forced to admit, publicly, that no evidence even one vote was changed as a result of evil Russian meddling has ever been found.

Quote:

"Testifying in front of the Senate Armed Services Committee Thursday morning, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper made it clear Russian hacking didn't change the outcome of the 2016 presidential election.

"They did not change any vote tallies or anything of that sort," Clapper stated."

...but harbor a deep mistrust that American citizens can't be trusted with mail-in ballots in the middle of a worldwide pandemic?

Wrong again. It isn't the American citizenry at large we can't trust. It is the Democrat Party and its apparatchiks who have, over the last four years, proven beyond all doubt they have no intention of accepting the legal and constitutional results of any election they lose.

 

[ewq1938]