[MOVED from AP]2014 Warmest Year on Record Since 1880

[DaisyDay]

2014 Was Hottest Year on Record, Surpassing 2010

With the continued heating of the atmosphere and the surface of the ocean, 1998 is now being surpassed every four or five years, with 2014 being the first time that has happened in a year featuring no real El Niño pattern. Gavin A. Schmidt, head of NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies in Manhattan, said the next time a strong El Niño occurs, it is likely to blow away all temperature records.

Uh-oh.

 

[wing2000]

....the ten warmest years on record have occurred since 1997.

 

[DaisyDay]

But this is the first time it was not an el Nino year.

 

[alien444]

Unless it becomes profitable, there will not be enough action to reverse these trends. We all assume we can innovate ourselves out of this mess but sometimes I think that is just an excuse for us to avoid any kind of immediate responsibility. Eh, we'll think of something...

 

[Grizzly]

2014 Was Hottest Year on Record, Surpassing 2010

Uh-oh.

That's can't be accurate, it was really cold last week #foxnewsfact

 

[doubtingmerle]

Trying to confuse the Fox News fans with facts, huh?

 

[interpreter]

global warming is last plague #4

 

[USincognito]

Notice how they always announce the annual temperature data in January? Don't those fools realize it just makes their socialist control conspiracy all that much more transparent?

 

[FreedByte]

Unless it becomes profitable, there will not be enough action to reverse these trends.

Cap n trade or carbon tax ASAP

 

[FreedByte]

Trying to confuse the Fox News fans with facts, huh?

Yeah, it's not very nice. Facts can hurt.

 

[EdwinWillers]

Yeah, it's not very nice. Facts can hurt.

LOL "Facts."

Well, let's analyze the "facts" a little bit.

First, let's assume the story is true. Let's assume that 2014 was indeed the "hottest" year on 'record' since 1880.

What is that - a 134 year period of time?

The actual 'recorded' history of earth's climate is at least 400,000 years old - by some scientist's measurements, over 800,000; but let's stick with 400,000.

These 'facts' represent a 134/400,000 slice of that 'record,' or in decimal format - 0.00034th of that period.

More specifically, they represent 1 (some here argue 10) years of THAT period.

Now, by way of comparison, 1 second is approximately 0.007 of a day - which is about 20 times as long a period, proportionately as 134 years is to 400,000.

So, since we're discussing 1 year - nay, let's go ahead and call it 10, as some are arguing - 10 years out of 134 out of 400,000.

That's sort of like freaking out over a photoflash and believing we're all going to be blinded by day's end.

And out of curiosity, did they measure temperature with the same instruments in 1880 as they do today?

Sidebar, how many of the climate scientist's climate models have accurately predicted the earth's climate since being programmed? (Ans: 0)

Personally, I'm not going to be freaked by this 'news.'

 

[Viren]

LOL "Facts."

Well, let's analyze the "facts" a little bit.

First, let's assume the story is true. Let's assume that 2014 was indeed the "hottest" year on 'record' since 1880.

What is that - a 134 year period of time?

The actual 'recorded' history of earth's climate is at least 400,000 years old - by some scientist's measurements, over 800,000; but let's stick with 400,000.

These 'facts' represent a 134/400,000 slice of that 'record,' or in decimal format - 0.00034th of that period.

More specifically, they represent 1 (some here argue 10) years of THAT period.

Now, by way of comparison, 1 second is approximately 0.007 of a day - which is about 20 times as long a period, proportionately as 134 years is to 400,000.

So, since we're discussing 1 year - nay, let's go ahead and call it 10, as some are arguing - 10 years out of 134 out of 400,000.

That's sort of like freaking out over a photoflash and believing we're all going to be blinded by day's end.

And out of curiosity, did they measure temperature with the same instruments in 1880 as they do today?

Sidebar, how many of the climate scientist's climate models have accurately predicted the earth's climate since being programmed? (Ans: 0)

Personally, I'm not going to be freaked by this 'news.'

Will you at least agree that CO2 in the atmosphere is more than it's been in 800,000 years?

 

[Protocol11]

where was it the warmest year on record? here in north east texas our summer last year was actually pretty mild by comparison to one a few years before it.

 

[EdwinWillers]

Will you at least agree that CO2 in the atmosphere is more than it's been in 800,000 years?

Well let's see - will you at least agree that the proxy methodology we use to measure CO2 as far back as 800,000 years isn't remotely capable of proving or disproving the existence or non-existence of CO2 spikes within a given 134 year sliver of time (let alone a 1 to 10 year sliver) such that we can definitively assert what we think we're seeing today hasn't ever happened before?

Put differently, let's take a random 134 year period from... oh, -387,244 to -387,110. Can you tell me what the average level of CO2 was during that period?
Can you do it with the same accuracy as we can measure CO2 today?

Or, how about the CO2 level in year -387,115? Can you tell me whether the CO2 level that year was greater or less than the year -387,125? -387,124?

I ask because that *is* the sort of absurd, nonsensical assertion being made in this thread - albeit for the period of time from years -134 to 0.

You can draw whatever conclusions you want from the data - it's up to you; but I'm not buying it.

 

[EdwinWillers]

where was it the warmest year on record? here in north east texas our summer last year was actually pretty mild by comparison to one a few years before it.

I have it on good authority it was in Hoboken, or perhaps a suburb thereof, but definitely on Elm Street, or Maple, probably in the 1500 or 1600 block, 4th house on the right, behind the shed, in the woodpile - pretty sure, anyway.

 

[AvilaSurfer]

Warmest since 1880? So 1880 was warmer?

 

[EdwinWillers]

Warmest since 1880? So 1880 was warmer?

1880 is when we started recording temps.

It's kinda like getting up in the morning and realizing you have a thermometer and an hour later you look at it again and it's hotter than it was an hour earlier so you extrapolate two things from that:

1) It's hotter than it ever was before
2) Temperatures are going to continue to rise - unless we do something.

...so you demand all sorts of ridiculous regulations, taxes, behaviors - and especially that everyone agree with your basic premise or suffer your sanctimonious ridicule.

That's about the gist of it.

 

[FreedByte]

where was it the warmest year on record? here in north east texas our summer last year was actually pretty mild by comparison to one a few years before it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Average

 

[FreedByte]

Personally, I'm not going to be freaked by this 'news.'

Rising ocean levels are an indisputable fact.

The incredibly rapid rate of melting in Greenland is an indisputable fact:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Yq-sfWSWLg

 

[Bedford]

1880 is when we started recording temps.

It's kinda like getting up in the morning and realizing you have a thermometer and an hour later you look at it again and it's hotter than it was an hour earlier so you extrapolate two things from that:

1) It's hotter than it ever was before
2) Temperatures are going to continue to rise - unless we do something.

...so you demand all sorts of ridiculous regulations, taxes, behaviors - and especially that everyone agree with your basic premise or suffer your sanctimonious ridicule.

That's about the gist of it.

Simplified, to the point of absurdity.

There is no real debate about whether climate change is occurring. The only dissent comes from the fringes, and generally from those whose research institutions or blogs are devoted, for ideological or other reasons, to attempting to debunk the notion that human activities are altering the planet's climate.

1. Carbon Dioxide Concentrations in the Atmosphere Are Increasing
2. The Hottest Decade on Record Keeps Changing
3. The Rate of Warming Is Unprecedented in at Least 11,000 Years
4. Arctic Sea Ice Is in a 'Death Spiral'
5. Greenland Is Losing Ice at an Accelerating Rate
6. Antarctic Peninsula Is Also Losing Ice at an Accelerating Rate
7. The Ocean Is Warming
8. Sea Level Is Rising
9. The Planet Is Accumulating More Heat
10. Extreme Weather Is More ... Extreme

10 Signs Climate Change Is Already Happening : Discovery News