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Featured Most Christians have no concept of what Heaven is really like

Discussion in 'Controversial Christian Theology' started by GirdYourLoins, Oct 15, 2020.

  1. Kenny'sID

    Kenny'sID Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Had Paul been allowed to reveal what he knew of heaven, do you think he would have sold it in several books or given the information away?
     
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  2. JacksBratt

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    I should say that we will not live in heaven for eternity. Our eternal home is in the "new earth" and the "new heaven" will descend to it.. So our final residence will be on a new perfect earth with heaven existing with us there.

    Also, I would like to add that heaven will be so wonderful that it is beyond our imagination.

    I can imagine some pretty fantastic and wonderful things.. and heaven will be greater than any of those... by far.

    God also says that everything will be as new every day... I can't imagine what it would be like to have everything new everyday.

    We will never be bored.. if we are seeing new things every day.
     
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  3. Jesus is YHWH

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    I always say the best mansion on this earth will look like the ghetto compared to the City the New Jerusalem.
     
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  4. Redwingfan9

    Redwingfan9 Well-Known Member

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    To be fair, there is precious little in scripture about what Heaven is actually like. I do not believe we should take the word of those with "near death" experiences who wake up to tell about what Heaven is like. There is no evidence in scripture that people go to Heaven for a brief moment and then return. We should merely trust God on this matter and move on to more edifying theological topics.
     
  5. Tony B

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    I just think we'll all have to tread so carefully as we wander and gaze around, so that we don't accidentally step on our or anyone else's jaws. It is gunna be a real hoot, hallelujah :smiley:
     
  6. NerdGirl123

    NerdGirl123 If only we could be ourselves...

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    I have this image of it being the biggest, wildest, most epic party of all time. Which is what it WILL be! People laughing, running about, hugging and jumping up and down and just going crazy with joy and excitement :)
     
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  7. Tony B

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    What a well thought through and presented list.
    Thank you for sharing :thumbsup::)
     
  8. Tony B

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    That's awesome :amen:
     
  9. Tony B

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    Yep. Just perfect, can't wait :clap::bow:
     
  10. NerdGirl123

    NerdGirl123 If only we could be ourselves...

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    Thank you for your kind words! It's not often that my lifetime of being a nerd comes in handy :D
     
  11. parousia70

    parousia70 Livin' in yesterday's tomorrow Supporter

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    1)Why are the Nations in need of Healing at this point, if everything has been made anew and perfect?
    Shouldn't they already be healed? yet this passage indicates they continue to be in need of perpetual healing for all eternity.... what affliction do you believe the nations here need constant, perpetual healing from?

    2) How does the tree yield fruit every month if there is no night or no sun there? How is a month there measured? How many New H&E Months make un a New H&E year? Are there decades there? Centuries? Minutes? hours?

    We'll all have "YAHWEH" tattooed on our foreheads there? Or will it be a microchip?
    (I mean, you are a literalist, right? Certainly this passage must be taken literally, no?)

    Nope. Not at all.
     
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  12. parousia70

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    2 Corinthians 5:1 For we know that if our earthly house, this tent, is destroyed, we have a building from God, a house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens.
     
  13. NerdGirl123

    NerdGirl123 If only we could be ourselves...

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    There's nothing that I've seen in Scripture that indicates that the healing of people, and thus nations, will be an instantaneous action. We know there will be a Second Judgement, we know Jesus will be wiping tears away; for all we know, these events may take a long time (though obviously "time" itself will be redefined in eternity).

    Because God can do anything, and nothing is impossible for Him? Perhaps John was describing it in earthly terms to help us understand what he was seeing.

    It doesn't say tattooed. It could also be a metaphor. Talking about something being "written on his brow" is a common tactic in classic literature. It means a defining characteristic.
     
  14. Archivist

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    I just hope that my beloved kitties will be there with me!
     
  15. Anthony2019

    Anthony2019 Pax et bonum! CF Ambassadors Supporter

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    The heart of gospel living is loving God and loving our neighbour. The first part we have no problem with, but very often we have a big problem with the second part. Yet it is very possible that the people that upset and annoyed us the most in this life will be coming to heaven with us. We will be together forever and ever, loving one another. We might even be sharing a mansion with them. Isn't that wonderful news!
     
  16. NerdGirl123

    NerdGirl123 If only we could be ourselves...

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    We'll have a new earth with animals on it, so one can hope that our beloved pets will be there :)
     
  17. BNR32FAN

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    I picture a lot of huge family cook outs with lots of barbeque.
     
  18. NerdGirl123

    NerdGirl123 If only we could be ourselves...

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    I don't think we'll have burgers and chicken wings in Heaven, though :( No death. No dead animals. Maybe they'll have vegetarian equivalents that taste just as good!
     
  19. Archivist

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    Martin Luther said that he believed that his dog would be in Heaven.
     
  20. parousia70

    parousia70 Livin' in yesterday's tomorrow Supporter

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    Then what do you see in scripture that indicates this is any different from the reality today?
    Nations are being healed right now by the tree of life.
    Jesus most certainly wipes my tears away right now.

    We're not waiting for either of these realities to come, for they are already here.

    Would you agree it is impossible for God to lie or go back on His word?
    But does really it help?

    Would you then also agree the same can be said of the mark of the beast? That its not a physical mark at all, but merely a "defining characteristic"?
     
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