LDS MORMONS: Heavenly Mom Gets Less Respect

[Ignatius the Kiwi]

I find it hard to believe that Eve is in the likeness of the Godhead, they are all male. That is a very strange perception.

If women have nothing to do with the image of God why do they have to worship him?

 

[He is the way]

Oops. My bad.

Anyway, check the Hebrew.

Did you check the link I posted?

Genesis 1:27 Hebrew Text Analysis

 

[He is the way]

If women have nothing to do with the image of God why do they have to worship him?

Everyone is to worship God the Father so I don't see what you are getting at here.

 

[Hammster]

Did you check the link I posted?

Genesis 1:27 Hebrew Text Analysis

I did. And that changes nothing. It’s still mankind.

 

[He is the way]

I did. And that changes nothing. It’s still mankind.

hā·’ā·ḏām is not translated as mankind in any of the translations of the Bible for Genesis 1:27.

 

[Hammster]

hā·’ā·ḏām is not translated as mankind in any of the translations of the Bible for Genesis 1:27.

If that’s your stance, then every time you see “man”, you will need to assume it means “male human”. Are you prepared to be that consistent?

 

[Ignatius the Kiwi]

Everyone is to worship God the Father so I don't see what you are getting at here.

Since Women are not in the image of Heavenly Father, why do they have to submit to and worship him?

 

[He is the way]

If that’s your stance, then every time you see “man”, you will need to assume it means “male human”. Are you prepared to be that consistent?

The word hā·’ā·ḏām not translated as mankind in any of the 136 occurrences in KJV.

 

[Hammster]

The word hā·’ā·ḏām not translated as mankind in any of the 136 occurrences in KJV.

It is used in other ways, but let’s move on.

For the sake of argument, let’s say you are correct. Let’s look at what it says.


“So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭1:27‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Is Heavenly Mother God?

 

[He is the way]

It is used in other ways, but let’s move on.

For the sake of argument, let’s say you are correct. Let’s look at what it says.


“So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭1:27‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Is Heavenly Mother God?

I haven't seen any church doctrine on whether She is a God or not. My belief is that She is a Goddess.

 

[mmksparbud]

hā·’ā·ḏām is not translated as mankind in any of the translations of the Bible for Genesis 1:27.

Wrong!!! Adam does not man---it means human!

27 and~he~will~SHAPE(V) (וַיִּבְרָא / wai'yiv'ra) Elohiym (אֱלֹהִים / e'lo'him) AT (אֶת / et) the~HUMAN (הָאָדָם / ha'a'dam) in~IMAGE~him (בְּצַלְמוֹ / bê'tsal'mo) in~IMAGE (בְּצֶלֶם / bê'tse'lem) Elohiym (אֱלֹהִים / e'lo'him) he~did~SHAPE(V) (בָּרָא / ba'ra) AT~him (אֹתוֹ / o'to) MALE (זָכָר / za'khar) and~FEMALE (וּנְקֵבָה / un'qey'vah) he~did~SHAPE(V) (בָּרָא / ba'ra) AT~them(m) (אֹתָם / o'tam)

RMT: and Elohiym shaped the human in his image, in the image of Elohiym he shaped him, male and female he shaped them,

 

[Rescued One]

The Godhead.

AMEN!

 

[Rescued One]

I haven't seen any church doctrine on whether She is a God or not. My belief is that She is a Goddess.

She doesn't exist. Goddesses are from mythology.

 

[Hammster]

I haven't seen any church doctrine on whether She is a God or not. My belief is that She is a Goddess.

What would be the difference?

 

[Rescued One]

Woman given to man to be a “helpmeet,” 29; true, seeks to perfect eternal nature, 21; given to man in divine order, 37; should be neither forced to marry or remain against her will, 40; is product of man, 40; origin of supposed curse on, 42; justified in binding self to husband’s law, 47; cannot serve two stewards, 51; is alone until she marries, 61; needs man to be fulffilled as a woman, 61; carnally minded, without God in the world, 63; who puts heart on worldly marriage is to be pittied, 67...

Rodney Turner, Woman and the Priesthood, 1972, p. 332

...to be continued.

 

[He is the way]

Wrong!!! Adam does not man---it means human!

27 and~he~will~SHAPE(V) (וַיִּבְרָא / wai'yiv'ra) Elohiym (אֱלֹהִים / e'lo'him) AT (אֶת / et) the~HUMAN (הָאָדָם / ha'a'dam) in~IMAGE~him (בְּצַלְמוֹ / bê'tsal'mo) in~IMAGE (בְּצֶלֶם / bê'tse'lem) Elohiym (אֱלֹהִים / e'lo'him) he~did~SHAPE(V) (בָּרָא / ba'ra) AT~him (אֹתוֹ / o'to) MALE (זָכָר / za'khar) and~FEMALE (וּנְקֵבָה / un'qey'vah) he~did~SHAPE(V) (בָּרָא / ba'ra) AT~them(m) (אֹתָם / o'tam)

RMT: and Elohiym shaped the human in his image, in the image of Elohiym he shaped him, male and female he shaped them,

RMT: and Elohiym shaped the human in his image, in the image of Elohiym he shaped him, male and female he shaped them,

 

[mmksparbud]

RMT: and Elohiym shaped the human in his image, in the image of Elohiym he shaped him, male and female he shaped them,

male and female he shaped them,
You have a most interesting way of avoiding the truth even in your own posts!

 

[He is the way]

male and female he shaped them,
You have a most interesting way of avoiding the truth even in your own posts!

RMT Genesis 1:1
in the summit “Elohiym [Powers]” fattened the sky and the land,

So much for created, I wonder what Isaiah 42:5 says in the RTM?

 

[Tra Phull]

Heavenly Mother(s) seem to be under some sort of Double Secret Probation among Mormons. She (or They) May exist, but are not worshipped.

Hmmm...

 

[Tra Phull]

Father, Son and Holy Spirit are worshipped, according to Nicene Creed.

Mom and/or Moms are cheated out of worship in this Mormon view, besides being absent from the Bible.

The only feminine figure in the Bible that comes anywhere close to a GODDESS is Holy Wisdom in Proverbs 8, but this seems metaphorical
Nevertheless I will ask - is there any relation between Mormon H.M. and Holy Wisdom as described in Proverbs 8 ?