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Discussion in 'Current News & Events' started by AACJ, Jun 5, 2019.

  1. AACJ

    AACJ Please Pray

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    You probably should not attempt to address that topic here.
     
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  2. AACJ

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    I am praying for the current alternatives to YouTube to gain in popularity and support. Christians can help them out by simply using their service as much as possible.
     
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  3. JacksBratt

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    Really? Where do you live that gays are being murdered, beaten and emotionally abused. Where I live, we are quite adjusted to the fact that some people are gay.. and... they live in our towns, work in our workplaces, go to the same movies that we go to... all without care or worry.
     
  4. Swan7

    Swan7 Made in the image of His Grace Supporter

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    I do have a channel, but I don't post as much content. I don't know anything about "movie making". I do use it to comment a lot however. All of this freedom of speech in itself has become a war zone that only God can help us with. Thankfully, banning has not been happening to the channels I have been watching so far, and I hope it will not escalate to that. If it does, it just goes to show where YouTube has gone in relation to the world. This world is for sure gone chaotic and the days of Noah are very near.
     
  5. HannahT

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    I don't think they know what they are doing either. They are trying to please everyone, and in the end aren't pleasing anyone.

    It's been interesting reading this thread. Recently, I was reading about the whole 'Steven Crowder v Carlos Maza' ordeal. I wasn't really familiar with either, and so I started to read about them. They are both in the public eye, and have to deal with stupid heads and real people. Getting criticised is just part of it. I have seen both do that, and if one is guilty so is the other.

    I was watching one of Maza's video discussing Antifa for example, and how the media only focuses on the violence and pretty much ignores the non-violence from many others. That's pretty much true. The ones that should get the camera time aren't, and for days on end you hear about the violent ones instead. He called this outlier bias. His example was a small group dominating the new coverage. The media should talk about the violence, but they do tend to NOT focus so much on the overall issue of the day. Media loves their drama - it sells better than the other part. It's the nature of the beast. $$ is the bottom line after all.

    What I had a giggle at was his own outlier bias. Being in the public eye your going to get talked about, and he wasn't the major target of the Crowder on a regular bases. Yet, he is concentrating on the comments that target him - with context and without. He seems to be wanting to draw that focus he has criticized in the past on him this time. So, in a sense he is using the outlier bias that he hates (supposedly) to his own advantage. Youtube couldn't find anything at first, and there was howls...and they caved to the howls. Yet, Maza could also be held guilty from some of his own comments...and they aren't going to do that due to howling might come back. It really diminishes what (Maza) was complaining about, because he also can be found doing the same thing.

    Yes, this type of thing will come back and bit Youtube in the backside. They are out to make money off this site as well.
     
  6. AACJ

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    I believe that if we continue to pray that the people running youtube wil not curb the Christian influence and content on their service, then we will continue to have that platform to minister the Gospel, provide news form a Christian perspective, and promote the Christian worldview.

    One of the major problems with the work of the Saints in this world is simply the fact that many Christian simply do not believe that we can majorly influence companies and institutions through prayer. That is a problem.

    It really is up to the Church the extent to which we want these companies to help promote the Christian worldview. Scripture is abundant with examples how that God can and is willing to alter and compel (not pertaining to salvation) the the thoughts and actions of men. This directing or superintendence runs to the extreme. For example, there or those incidents where the Israelite army did not have to lift a finger in a battle because, through supernatural intervention, by the time they reached their enemies, their enemies had destroyed one another. Another major example of God compelling the thoughts and actions of people (by whatever means He so chooses) is Pharaoh.

    Christians must not abandon one of our most important weapons in furthering God's will on this earth, namely, working to alter the actions and thoughts of men simply through prayer.

    My family has experienced answers to prayer that are simply to wonderful for many to believe, but I have been an eyewitness to the fact that God loves to answer the prayers of His people.
     
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  7. AACJ

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    Nazism is not just a belief. As an -ism, it is constituted of a core set of beliefs and practices.

    It literally does not follow that because a person experiences suffering as a result of someone condemning their beliefs and practices, that such condemnation is unjustified, unwarranted, wrong or evil. The Nazis eventually suffered as a result of there beliefs and practices. Who was ultimately responsible for the such suffering experienced by the Nazis?

    Attacks or arguments against the beliefs or practices of people can and often do affect those same people, obviously. But what is your point, that such effect means that such attacks equate to directly attacking or condemning someone personally? Or that the production of such effect means that one or all factors (arguing against or attacking beliefs and/or practices) contributing to such effect are unjustified or should not occur? If so, that is false, both biblically and logically.

    Youtube presumes that a rejection or condemnation of the beliefs and practices of certain groups of people (for example, the LGBT community) are unjustified and inherently wrong. An important question is, is the attacks on some group's beliefs or practices justified within the context of both the biblical standard and the effects that both beliefs and practices have in the world.
     
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  8. High Fidelity

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    Why not?

    It's the same principle.

    You can't support a baker's right to discriminate based on his/her opinion and then complain when another company does the same.
     
  9. Sparagmos

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    Of course, you avoided answering my question again. You said this: “They want to present conservative beliefs and practices as direct attacks on the persons rather than what they often are--attacks on beliefs and practices.” And I asked if attacks on the beliefs of Christians are also not an attack on Christians themselves.

    You’ve certainly moved the goalposts - now you seem to be saying that it is just fine if a group is harmed by ideology if the Bible condemns that group. Is that what you want, to convince YouTube to use the Bible (your interpretation of course) to decide which ideologies are good and bad? That’s pretty silly.
     
  10. Sparagmos

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    Examples?
     
  11. HatGuy

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    Calling gay people "the gays". Hahaha. They're not "the gays" they're people like you and I, not some nebulous group like "the Vulcans".

    And just like regular people, you can't generalise like this. Some gay people don't want to be left in peace - they like to stir up trouble. Just like those who are constantly trying to push at that Christian baker guy. Or like some gay people who adopt kids just to turn them into a political statement. I know one gay guy who deliberately brought his boyfriend to his work and kissed him at the entrance and did some naughty stuff in the bathroom - all in an effort to get people to be shocked or disgusted. He wasn't looking for peace, he was looking for a fight. He didn't get one, incidentally. No one cared.

    Some gay people want to be left alone, others not. I think this is a silly generalisation. And in all honesty, many gay people have not had it as rough as some like to make it out to be - many gay people come from hugely privileged backgrounds and they remain hugely privileged, powerful, influential, and have never experienced a day of actual emotional abuse in their lives. Others have experienced the things you've stated, others have not. Just like many straight people have experienced all those things you've mentioned as well, and many others have not.

    Some generalisations are helpful. This one isn't. The media just likes a good story, but hardly represents the truth on the ground.
     
  12. Sparagmos

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    Why are you expecting a secular company in a secular country to look to the Bible for standards of fairness? Some Christians are always trying to get secular institutions to inform to their personal beliefs. Just start your own social media outlet.
     
  13. AACJ

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    I did answer previously.

    Attacks on or condemnation of beliefs or practices do not constitute an attack on persons holding or affirming such beliefs or practices. That necessarily includes Christians.

    A person is no more a belief or practice than a belief or practice is person. So an attack on a person's beliefs or practices is not equivalent to an attack on that person.

    OK?

    The effects of such attacks do not necessarily determine the nature of such attacks (personable or non-personable; evil or good, etc.).

    I could add much more to the above.

    I believe you're the one shifting the goal post and misrepresenting my words by apparently considering "harm" and "suffering" to be equivalents and by intimating that I supposedly consider all harm to be justified. I did not use the word harm. You also seem to be using "ideology" and "group" interchangeably.

    I referenced both belief and practice. Ideology is not the same as practice of such ideology. Justified suffering and harm was brought to the Nazis, primarily becasue of the application of their ideology. In other words, because of the practice of their ideology. Do you actually believe that the Allied Forces were not justified in the harm and suffering they brought to the Nazis, directly or indirectly? No, of course you don't.

    Yes. History is also a great source of truth, subject to Biblical authority. Now, if only all the social media giants used the Bible in determining the morality of words and deeds. You seem to believe there is some kind of objective, man-derived standard of moral truth.

    But....leave subjective biblical interpretation out of it, please. You're creating a strawman by making my interpretation of the Bible a precondition. Stay on track.

    If and how a company applies such a biblical standard in its censorship practices are separate but related issues to what constitutes good or evil ideology or practice.
     
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  14. AACJ

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    I wonder if I have ever before encountered anyone misrepresenting positions to the extent that you have on this thread.
     
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  15. Contenders Edge

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    I will certainly be in prayer for this; either that or that God will raise rival tech companies to those of silicon company on whose platforms Christians and conservatives can freely preach their views without fear of censorship.

    The reason why conservatives and Christians (individuals and organizations) still continue to use the services of google, facebook, twitter, and even pay pal is because they do not feel that there are any viable alternatives for them.

    If there was, then conservatives and Christians may begin transitioning to those tech services friendly to them.
     
  16. Swan7

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    This I did not know.

    Yep, I know this quite well as it is also a part of my testimony that aligns with this very thing! :D

    This is true, God is our Judge for matter such as these. However, all of this is prophecy unfolding in this age as well. We have to pray for our enemies that they might come into repentance. Many will not due to what the Bible already says... but we can certainly try by His Word and of course, prayer. :yellowheart:
     
  17. High Fidelity

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    Please explain to me how it's a misrepresentation of positions?

    Genuinely, please do explain to me how those two examples are not precisely the same.
     
  18. KarateCowboy

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    Why do you think secular state == secular nation? Heathen are always trying to eradicate the Christian heritage and culturecul Western nations. Only extreme and abject hatred could drive abandoning the millennia of Christian cultural contributions to our culture
     
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  19. Brightmoon

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    That gay guy with the boyfriend still deserved to be left in peace despite his immature exhibitionistic behavior . Y’all didn’t go to his home and lynch them afterwards did you?
    . America has NEVER been a Christian country . I don’t know why people keep telling that ignorant nonsense as if it were true. We are forbidden to have a state religion and the founding fathers put that in place because they very specifically did not want sectarian hatreds to run the government. America has a majority Christian population but is not a theocracy by a long shot
     
  20. Brightmoon

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    . STDs and AIDS were caused by promiscuous behavior not by simply being gay. The mainstream scientific community disagrees with your doctor Lisa . There a genetic and fetal environmental component to being gay .. in other words it’s a natural phenomenon and not a choice.
     
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