More than half of Americans say Trump is racist, including 80% of African-Americans

[Pedra]

Trump is not racist in reality. The progressive left media portrays him falsely as a racist because they can't stand it that they lost the election, meanwhile the more then half the people know better.

 

[The Barbarian]

Trump is not racist in reality.

He's already been caught at it. He had to sign an agreement to stop keeping black people out of his apartments.

Even many of his supporters admit it.

A Quinnipiac University poll out this week shows that a majority (51%) of voters believe that President Donald Trump is a racist. Forty-five percent say that he is not.
To opponents of the President, this poll may not be surprising. But think about it for a second. This isn't just the normal opposition you'd expect to a president. This is a majority of voters saying their president is a racist.
Compare these numbers to a Harris poll from September 1968. Former Alabama Gov. George Wallace, a segregationist, was running for president as an opponent to the Civil Rights movement. As he campaigned, 41% agreed when asked whether Wallace was a racist. That was basically even with the 40% who disagreed with the statement.
Poll: More voters think Donald Trump is a racist than thought George Wallace was in 1968 - CNNPolitics

Of course, George Wallace wasn't as much of a racist as Trump is, so that's understandable. Wallace even eventually apologized for his racism. Can you imagine Trump apologizing for anything?

 

[The Barbarian]

That is not racism. What he and thousands of other American businessmen did in those days was simply smart economics.

Actually, most businessmen didn't do it precisely because it was unprofitable. And the notion that anything is ethically justified, if it's profitable, is exactly what's wrong with Trump.

Matthew 6:24 No man can serve two masters. For either he will hate the one, and love the other: or he will sustain the one, and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon.

Trump has chosen mammon. And you seem to be agreeing with him. I hope you are not.

 

[The Barbarian]

You just got done quoting a bible verse to support one claim about Trump and are now condemning him for something else the bible says.

Nope. You're just adding a little to scripture to make it more acceptable to you. Read this, carefully:

Ephesians 5:22 Wives, [be in subjection] unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. https://www.christianforums.com/bible/ephesians/5:22/
Nothing at all about women being submissive to any fool who happens to come along. Women are to be submissive to their husbands as their husbands are to be subject to their wives' needs.

Trump figures he deserves submission from any woman he encounters. And that's not Biblical.

So, why shouldn't Trump be happy with submissive women?

Because he only deserves submission from his wife. But he's terrified of any woman who isn't submissive to him. It's why Peolosi has such an easy time manipulating him.

Strong men love strong women. Weak men fear them.

 

[The Barbarian]

I think you need to read and understand the whole case before you make such ridiculous arguments. Trump wasn't found guilty of anything. In fact he did have blacks renting from them. Of course you believe he's racist so of course you have made the decision. Nothing he says or does will change your mind, so why bother.

Learn about it here:

Decades-Old Housing Discrimination Case Plagues Donald Trump

It's not what you were told.

 

[The Barbarian]

Because he only deserves submission from his wife. But he's terrified of any woman who isn't submissive to him. It's why Peolosi has such an easy time manipulating him.

Terrified, huh? Sure doesn't sound like it.

As you saw, in the meeting, she flatly told him that his wall wasn't going to be funded, and when she told him if he shut down the government to get it, he'd get the blame. And he agreed with her.

She's the one who says the most against him, and that's a real sign of fear.

If so, Trump must be terrified of a lot of women in government, since he constantly says things against them. Pelosi only periodically reminds him of his place.

Strong men love strong women. Weak men fear them.

 

[Aldebaran]

Because he only deserves submission from his wife. But he's terrified of any woman who isn't submissive to him. It's why Peolosi has such an easy time manipulating him.



As you saw, in the meeting, she flatly told him that his wall wasn't going to be funded, and when she told him if he shut down the government to get it, he'd get the blame. And he agreed with her.

He's probably also agree with her if she said that the Republicans in the Senate are doing a great job and that Trump should remain president for 4 more years. Agreeing with what someone says has nothing to do with being submissive to them. Otherwise, Pelosi has examples of being submissive to Trump as well: Nancy Pelosi: House Democrats to pass part of Trump’s emergency border funding

If so, Trump must be terrified of a lot of women in government, since he constantly says things against them. Pelosi only periodically reminds him of his place.

Strong men love strong women. Weak men fear them.

The American people already showed him what his place is (The White House, as president of the United States of America). Pelosi doesn't override the American people.

 

[The Barbarian]

The American people already showed him what his place is (The White House, as president of the United States of America).

Trump doesn't know his place. He recently "ordered" American businessmen to find nations other than China to deal with. They laughed at him. He told Pelosi he's do the State of the Nation address, even though she told him he couldn't. He obeyed when she made it clear that he wasn't going to do that until he ended the shutdown.

She told him that Congress was not going appropriate money for his wall. He finally gave in.

Pelosi doesn't override the American people.

She overrides Trump when he forgets his place. It's why he's scared of her; strong women frighten him.

Nancy Pelosi Is in President's Head, Trump Biographer Tells CNN's Don Lemon: 'She's Mommy and She's Not Treating Him Well'
Lemon asked D'Antonio about Trump's tense relationship with the House Speaker.

"Why does he get so earthed by Nancy Pelosi?" he said.

D'Antonio replied: "She's Mommy and she's not treating him well," with Lemon barely suppressing a chuckle.

D'Antonio went on: "She's a powerful woman, a bit older than him, got authority. I don't think he likes it when women aren't taking care of him.

"Absolutely she lives in his head and what's weird is she doesn't have to do much, does she? She just has to say this is a cover-up. And what's amazing is his whole life has been a cover-up. There's not been a thing that he's claimed that has not been distorted.
Nancy Pelosi is in president's head, Trump biographer tells CNN: "She's mommy and she's not treating him well"

 

[Aldebaran]

Trump doesn't know his place.

He clearly does. That's why he's still president.

He recently "ordered" American businessmen to find nations other than China to deal with. They laughed at him. He told Pelosi he's do the State of the Nation address, even though she told him he couldn't. He obeyed when she made it clear that he wasn't going to do that until he ended the shutdown.

She told him that Congress was not going appropriate money for his wall. He finally gave in.

As I already showed you: House Democrats to pass part of Trump’s emergency border funding

She overrides Trump when he forgets his place. It's why he's scared of her; strong women frighten him.

Still not true.
What's true is that "strong women" like Pelosi trade that description for "victims of bullying" when they're stood up to. What's frightening is how many people actually fall for that tactic.

Nancy Pelosi Is in President's Head, Trump Biographer Tells CNN's Don Lemon: 'She's Mommy and She's Not Treating Him Well'
Lemon asked D'Antonio about Trump's tense relationship with the House Speaker.

"Why does he get so earthed by Nancy Pelosi?" he said.

D'Antonio replied: "She's Mommy and she's not treating him well," with Lemon barely suppressing a chuckle.

D'Antonio went on: "She's a powerful woman, a bit older than him, got authority. I don't think he likes it when women aren't taking care of him.

"Absolutely she lives in his head and what's weird is she doesn't have to do much, does she? She just has to say this is a cover-up. And what's amazing is his whole life has been a cover-up. There's not been a thing that he's claimed that has not been distorted.
Nancy Pelosi is in president's head, Trump biographer tells CNN: "She's mommy and she's not treating him well"

Just one man's opinion on a liberal media station that is no longer relevant, just like D'Antonio's opinion.

 

[The Barbarian]

What's true is that "strong women" like Pelosi become "victims of bullying" when they're stood up to.

Well, let's take a look...

Trump on the shutdown: “We will not cave!” Trump one day later: I’m caving.

What a difference a day makes.

Late Thursday morning, President Donald Trump posted a defiant tweet in which he suggested the government shutdown would not end unless Congress gave him money for a border wall.

“We will not Cave!” Trump wrote.

Speaking to reporters in the White House later that same day, Trump indicated he would not sign a short-term funding bill unless it included a “prorated down payment for the wall.”

But barely 24 hours later, Trump caved: On Friday afternoon, the president announced he would sign a bill to reopen the government until February 15 — a bill that wouldn’t include any money for his border wall, “prorated down payment” or otherwise.
Trump on the shutdown: "We will not cave!" Trump one day later: I’m caving.

So you think Trump was the "victim of bullying?" In a sense, yes. He was easily intimidated by Pelosi. But your premise is wrong. We were talking about strong women. And Trump is neither.

 

[Aldebaran]

Well, let's take a look...

Trump on the shutdown: “We will not cave!” Trump one day later: I’m caving.

What a difference a day makes.

Late Thursday morning, President Donald Trump posted a defiant tweet in which he suggested the government shutdown would not end unless Congress gave him money for a border wall.

“We will not Cave!” Trump wrote.

Speaking to reporters in the White House later that same day, Trump indicated he would not sign a short-term funding bill unless it included a “prorated down payment for the wall.”

But barely 24 hours later, Trump caved: On Friday afternoon, the president announced he would sign a bill to reopen the government until February 15 — a bill that wouldn’t include any money for his border wall, “prorated down payment” or otherwise.
Trump on the shutdown: "We will not cave!" Trump one day later: I’m caving.

So you think Trump was the "victim of bullying?" In a sense, yes. He was easily intimidated by Pelosi. But your premise is wrong. We were talking about strong women. And Trump is neither.

Notice how the part where he's quoted as saying he's caving is not enclosed by quotation marks. There's good reason for that, since he didn't say it.

Don't forget that Pelosi is the one who actually said that she wouldn't allow money for the border wall and then CAVED, which didn't go over so well with her friends:

Here she is playing "strong woman" January 31st: Pelosi: No wall money, period. Trump: 'Stop playing political games!'

And here she is "caving" to Trump on June 27th: House passes border funding bill after Pelosi reversal outrages progressives - CNNPolitics

 

[The Barbarian]

Notice how the part where he's quoted as saying he's caving is not enclosed by quotation marks. There's good reason for that, since he didn't say it.

Well, let's take a look..
Late Thursday morning, President Donald Trump posted a defiant tweet in which he suggested the government shutdown would not end unless Congress gave him money for a border wall.

“We will not Cave!” Trump wrote.

Speaking to reporters in the White House later that same day, Trump indicated he would not sign a short-term funding bill unless it included a “prorated down payment for the wall.”

But barely 24 hours later, Trump caved: On Friday afternoon, the president announced he would sign a bill to reopen the government until February 15 — a bill that wouldn’t include any money for his border wall, “prorated down payment” or otherwise.

Perhaps you don't know what "caved" means. He defiantly insists that he'll accept nothing less, and then a day later, caves and signs a bill without his demand.

Actually, that was her original offer. She'd give him a face-saving pittance for the wall, and he'd sign her bill. He refused and eventually caved and gave in.

That's the reason the wall isn't going to be built. She suggested he could fix up some existing fences and call that a wall...

Trump has not built a single mile of new border fence, agency confirms
SAN DIEGO, California — The Trump administration has not installed a single mile of new wall in a previously fenceless part of the U.S.-Mexico border in the 30 months since President Trump assumed office, despite his campaign promise to construct a “big beautiful wall.”

In a statement last week, U.S. Customs and Border Protection, the federal agency overseeing border barrier construction, confirmed that all the fencing completed since Trump took office is "in place of dilapidated designs" because the existing fence was in need of replacement.

The agency said that it had built 51 miles of steel bollard fence with funding that was set aside during fiscal 2017 and 2018. But while the funding was meant both to replace outdated walls and to place barriers where there previously had been none, the government has only completed the replacement projects. The projects to secure areas with no fence are still in the works.
Trump has not built a single mile of new border fence, agency confirms

 

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[rjs330]

I am correct. The case is not as cute and dried as is made out by much of the media. There were minorities in the buildings. Donald Trump is not shown to be a racist in the incident. There was not admission or finding of guilt. This case ended like many cases do. It's very hard to fight the feds who have more money and time than even the Trump's did. So a settlement was reached.

But I don't expect you and others to change your minds. You think he's a racist and NOTHING is going to change that.

FBI releases documents related to Trump apartment discrimination case

 

[Aldebaran]

Well, let's take a look..
Late Thursday morning, President Donald Trump posted a defiant tweet in which he suggested the government shutdown would not end unless Congress gave him money for a border wall.

“We will not Cave!” Trump wrote.

Speaking to reporters in the White House later that same day, Trump indicated he would not sign a short-term funding bill unless it included a “prorated down payment for the wall.”

But barely 24 hours later, Trump caved: On Friday afternoon, the president announced he would sign a bill to reopen the government until February 15 — a bill that wouldn’t include any money for his border wall, “prorated down payment” or otherwise.

Perhaps you don't know what "caved" means. He defiantly insists that he'll accept nothing less, and then a day later, caves and signs a bill without his demand.

Actually, that was her original offer. She'd give him a face-saving pittance for the wall, and he'd sign her bill. He refused and eventually caved and gave in.

That's the reason the wall isn't going to be built. She suggested he could fix up some existing fences and call that a wall...

Trump has not built a single mile of new border fence, agency confirms
SAN DIEGO, California — The Trump administration has not installed a single mile of new wall in a previously fenceless part of the U.S.-Mexico border in the 30 months since President Trump assumed office, despite his campaign promise to construct a “big beautiful wall.”

In a statement last week, U.S. Customs and Border Protection, the federal agency overseeing border barrier construction, confirmed that all the fencing completed since Trump took office is "in place of dilapidated designs" because the existing fence was in need of replacement.

The agency said that it had built 51 miles of steel bollard fence with funding that was set aside during fiscal 2017 and 2018. But while the funding was meant both to replace outdated walls and to place barriers where there previously had been none, the government has only completed the replacement projects. The projects to secure areas with no fence are still in the works.
Trump has not built a single mile of new border fence, agency confirms

None of which addresses what I said. Again, don't forget that Pelosi is the one who actually said that she wouldn't allow money for the border wall and then CAVED, which by your example means: "He defiantly insists that he'll accept nothing less, and then a day later, caves and signs a bill without his demand." Well, here's Pelosi caving to Trump, as evidenced by the second link:

Here she is playing "strong woman" January 31st: Pelosi: No wall money, period. Trump: 'Stop playing political games!'

And here she is "caving" to Trump on June 27th: House passes border funding bill after Pelosi reversal outrages progressives - CNNPolitics

 

[Gigimo]

None of which addresses what I said. Again, don't forget that Pelosi is the one who actually said that she wouldn't allow money for the border wall and then CAVED, which by your example means: "He defiantly insists that he'll accept nothing less, and then a day later, caves and signs a bill without his demand." Well, here's Pelosi caving to Trump, as evidenced by the second link:

Here she is playing "strong woman" January 31st: Pelosi: No wall money, period. Trump: 'Stop playing political games!'

And here she is "caving" to Trump on June 27th: House passes border funding bill after Pelosi reversal outrages progressives - CNNPolitics

You know he doesn't really care don't you?

 

[Scholastica]

That second article specially says none of the border funding money is going to a wall.

 

[Aldebaran]

You know he doesn't really care don't you?

Yep! Continuing the discussion simply exposes that fact more and more.

 

[Aldebaran]

That second article specially says none of the border funding money is going to a wall.

The point was that Pelosi (strong woman) caved to Trump rather than "stand up to him" as was being asserted earlier.

 

[Scholastica]

You specifically said she caved on border wall funding. This is a falsehood. You then linked to a separate funding bill from half a year later as evidence she caved on the wall, which is mixing two issues and is highly disingenuous.