More Than 400 Studies on the Failure of Compulsory Covid Interventions

[Hammster]

I would be very surprised if every intervention had positive value. Especially given how the lack of vaccine cooperation pretty much assures backsliding for any temporary achievement.

The point was that there was no value in lockdowns or mask mandates. They didn’t accomplish what was promised. In fact, they made things worse.

 

[durangodawood]

The point was that there was no value in lockdowns or mask mandates. They didn’t accomplish what was promised. In fact, they made things worse.

Interesting. Can you link the study you read that said that?

 

[Hammster]

Interesting. Can you link the study you read that said that?

Nope. Like I said, I just randomly read some. If I come across one again, I’ll link to it.

 

[grasping the after wind]

I would be very surprised if every intervention had positive value. Especially given how the lack of vaccine cooperation pretty much assures backsliding for any temporary achievement.

I would think that it is up to the person, agency, group etc., that demands that others take specific action, to prove that those actions are at least reasonable, if not necessary, and effective in reaching the stated goal rather than for those that are having demands made of them be expected to prove that the demands are not.

 

[muichimotsu]

I would think that it is up to the person, agency, group etc., that demands that others take specific action, to prove that those actions are at least reasonable, if not necessary, and effective in reaching the stated goal rather than for those that are having demands made of them be expected to prove that the demands are not.

It's almost like we could have a compromise and admit that the methods are not meant to be 100% effective, but are preferable to throwing caution to the wind and thinking we can handle pandemics because, "it's the modern age" when that kind of hubris is self destructive in any period of history that considers itself "advanced"

 

[grasping the after wind]

It's almost like we could have a compromise and admit that the methods are not meant to be 100% effective, but are preferable to throwing caution to the wind and thinking we can handle pandemics because, "it's the modern age" when that kind of hubris is self destructive in any period of history that considers itself "advanced"

We could admit that we do not require the government to force people to do things against their will in order to for us not to throw caution to the wind. I have followed guidelines, even some that i find ridiculous because the science does not support them i.e., useless masking with a piece of cloth that does next to, if not completely, zero to contain the virus. As opposed to wearing a functional mask that will have an effect. sometimes I follow guidelines I find less than helpful just to make others feel less stressed and would do so without being threatened with the force of government. Certainly, any guideline that makes scientific sense I do not need a bureaucrat's threats to follow. We certainly do have an enormous amount of hubris in Washington and many statehouses. Their belief in their own infallibility, one bureaucrat in particular comes to mind, is narcissistic in the extreme.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Stating or implying that the 400 studies aren’t worth looking at because of who assembled them is a logical fallacy, specifically a genetic fallacy.

FWIW, I was stating that the summary presented by source was untrustworthy (because the source has already proved to be untrustworthy with respect to COVID-19 even within its short 6 month existence). I have no opinion on the studies themselves.

 

[Hammster]

FWIW, I was stating that the summary presented by source was untrustworthy (because the source has already proved to be untrustworthy with respect to COVID-19 even within its short 6 month existence). I have no opinion on the studies themselves.

The summary is really irrelevant.