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Discussion in 'Exposition & Bible Study' started by orbiter, May 26, 2018.

  1. orbiter

    orbiter Active Member

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    Abel was a keeper of sheep.

    Genesis 4:2 KJV
    (2) And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.

    Abel represents the pastors who feed the flock of God (the church of God) not for “filthy lucre’s” sake but willingly without charge. They do not seek after their own gain but instead another’s as they feed the flock freely. They are servants and not “lords” over God’s heritage.

    1 Peter 5:2-4 KJV
    (2) Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind;
    (3) Neither as being lords over God's heritage, but being ensamples to the flock.
    (4) And when the chief Shepherd shall appear, ye shall receive a crown of glory that fadeth not away


    In contrast, Cain was a “tiller of the ground”….a worker of the ground (in Hebrew: “ground” = the “Adamah”).

    Genesis 4:2 KJV
    (2) And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.

    Cain represents the “pastors” of the churches who serve only for their earthly things….who are only minding the earthly things (what to eat, what to drink, what to wear)…. as they “preach” or rather as they handle the Word of God deceitfully for unjust gain. They use flattering words...good words and beautiful speeches...in order to get it.

    They are “tillers of the ground” as they only preach for money in order to get their earthly needs met. They work for and seek after their earthly necessities inside the churches just as the outside nations do. This should not be.

    Those who do such things must hear and overcome their wrath when they hear the things of the Spirit.

    We are laborers together with God and we are God’s FIELD (“husbandry”).

    1 Corinthians 3:9 KJV
    (9) For we are labourers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, ye are God's building
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    Let us hear a brother and not “rise up” as Cain once did against a brother who is working in God’s field. Cain (meaning “spear”) did rise up against “Abel” (meaning “emptiness”) and did slay him. Let us not “slay” another with the spear of the tongue by calling them “empty” (the meaning of “Abel”)…empty-headed…raca….fool.

    Genesis 4:8-9 KJV
    (8) And Cain talked with Abel his brother: and it came to pass, when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother, and slew him.
    (9) And the LORD said unto Cain, Where is Abel thy brother? And he said, I know not: Am I my brother's keeper?


    In the “old time”, Cain killed Abel.

    Matthew 5:21-24 KJV
    (21) Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:

    Today, we must not become angry with a brother without cause and call him “raca” (which means “EMPTY” ) … and “fool”. Remember how Abel means “empty” as that is what Cain did consider him to be “in the field” and did slay him.

    Today, others may become angry at what they hear and will be tempted to label the speaker as an “empty head” because of what a brother may speak which may be in the Spirit of Truth. Whoever hates their brother is a murderer....following in the way of Cain.

    (22) But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
    (23) Therefore if thou bring thy gift to the altar, and there rememberest that thy brother hath ought against thee;
    (24) Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift.


    Sin lies at the door….the door of the mouth…but we must rule over it when we become angry at what we hear a brother speaking. Let us not kill the messenger by calling them an empty one without knowledge. Sin (evil speaking) must not have dominion…reign…over us. We must rule over it. We must overcome.

    Genesis 4:5-7 KJV
    (5) But unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell.
    (6) And the LORD said unto Cain, Why art thou wroth? and why is thy countenance fallen?
    (7) If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him
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    The “adamah”….the nations who do not know God…run headfirst after the earthly things (what to eat, what to drink, what to wear). We should not be seeking after these things inside the churches.

    Matthew 6:31-33 KJV
    (31) Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed?
    (32) (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things.


    Instead of conforming to this world in the pursuit of earthly things within the church, we are to seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness and all these earthly things shall be added unto us.

    (33) But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

    Again, the “adamah” are the nations of the world that do not know God and only seek after the earthly things as they go about their lives in this earth. The outside world does not profess to know God. They lust after the earthly things that they blindly run after as they serve the fleshly mind.

    1 Thessalonians 4:3-9 KJV
    (3) For this is the will of God, even your sanctification, that ye should abstain from fornication:
    (4) That every one of you should know how to possess his vessel in sanctification and honour;
    (5) Not in the lust of concupiscence, even as the Gentiles which know not God:
    (6) That no man go beyond and defraud his brother in any matter: because that the Lord is the avenger of all such, as we also have forewarned you and testified.
    (7) For God hath not called us unto uncleanness, but unto holiness.
    (8) He therefore that despiseth, despiseth not man, but God, who hath also given unto us his holy Spirit.
    (9) But as touching brotherly love ye need not that I write unto you: for ye yourselves are taught of God to love one another.


    The “adamah” (which means “red ground”) serves the carnal mind…the fleshly mind… and cannot please God. They that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh only. The outside nations of the world are only minding the things of the flesh as they serve the fleshly mind. To be carnally-minded is death.

    Romans 8:5 KJV
    (5) For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.

    “Adam” means “red” only (without the word for “ground” attached to it…. “adamah”).

    The blood of Christ washes us from the “dead works” of the carnal mind (the ground…the fleshly mind) so that we may serve the living God. We receive the Spirit by which we crucify in Christ the works of the flesh and serve God.

    Hebrews 9:14 KJV
    (14) How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?

    The nations of the world walk in the “vanity of their mind”….the emptiness….the transientness of their mind (singular “mind” as they all think and behave the same way). They are the “adamah” that we are taken from as we receive the Spirit of Christ. We must not walk with them in their pursuit of the things of the emptiness of their mind as their life is alienated from the life of God.

    Ephesians 4:17-20 KJV
    (17) This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity of their mind,
    (18) Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart:
    (19) Who being past feeling have given themselves over unto lasciviousness, to work all uncleanness with greediness.
    (20) But ye have not so learned Christ
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    The outside world does not know God and He has permitted all nations to walk in their own ways….

    Acts 14:15-17 KJV
    (15) And saying, Sirs, why do ye these things? We also are men of like passions with you, and preach unto you that ye should turn from these vanities unto the living God, which made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all things that are therein:

    …yet God has not left Himself without witness to those on the outside that do not know Him as He does good and gives them rain from heaven and fruitful seasons, filling their hearts with food and gladness.

    (16) Who in times past suffered all nations to walk in their own ways.
    (17) Nevertheless he left not himself without witness, in that he did good, and gave us rain from heaven, and fruitful seasons, filling our hearts with food and gladness.


    The nations of the world (the “ground”…the “Adamah”) do not know God. A “mist” rises from the earth…a fog clouds their minds…as they go about seeking earthly things and working the works of the flesh. They have no knowledge of God in their lives.

    Genesis 2:6-8 KJV
    (6) But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground.

    But He has quickened us who once behaved with the world …being conformed to the world…in the participating in the lusts of the flesh, the fulfilling of the desires of the flesh and of the mind.

    We were once by nature the children of wrath….the “adamah”…the natural, earthy man who strives for earthly things and serves the carnal mind: envy, strife, hatred, wrath, seditions, etc.

    God breaths into our nostrils (“nostrils” can mean wrath also…as in “children of wrath” that by nature we were) the breath of lives (plural). He sends the Spirit of Christ into our hearts which gives us His life…and then we can serve Him and speak His words of life and spirit to others (the breath of lives) so that they may know also Him who is true.

    (7) And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

    But we MUST walk after the Spirit and not after the flesh. They that are Christ’s have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

    Galatians 5:19-26 KJV
    (19) Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
    (20) Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
    (21) Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
    (22) But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
    (23) Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
    (24) And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
    (25) If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
    (26) Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another.


    Yet, there is still envying and strife and divisions among us who have been given His Spirit. MANY are living in church denominations where they fight and war with each other over the doctrines and commandments of men. We are still yet carnal behaving like this and walk as mere earthy, natural men….the “adamah”.

    1 Corinthians 3:1-3 KJV
    (1) And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ.
    (2) I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.
    (3) For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?


    As we have borne the image of the earthy man, we must also bear the image of the heavenly man, the Lord who is from Heaven. This is a “now” thing. We must crucify the flesh in our lives and put on Christ NOW so that His heavenly, eternal life is made manifest in our mortal flesh in this earth. We must put on the heavenly man (Christ) NOW.

    1 Corinthians 15:47-49 KJV
    (47) The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.
    (48) As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.
    (49) And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.


    If we do not have the Spirit of Christ within us, then we are not His. We are still of the “adamah” (the outside nations of the world) who does not have the Spirit as they go about their earthly lives serving the carnal mind and having no knowledge of God (the “fog” rises and clouds their earthly minds as they have given themselves over to unrighteous pursuits). God still leaves His witness to them as He allows them to work their meaningless works and enjoy them. All of their works are the chasing after the wind as they perish from this earth as NO FLESH shall glory in His presence.

    But if we truly have the Spirit of God dwelling in us, we are not in the flesh but in the Spirit….and that Spirit shall make alive our MORTAL BODIES which is already dead because of our past sins. This making alive of our mortal bodies with His eternal life is a “here-and-now thing” and not after we “die and go to heaven” thing.

    Romans 8:9-11 KJV
    (9) But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
    (10) And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
    (11) But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.


    Again, we must crucify the flesh through the Spirit. We are to ALWAYS keep the dying of the Lord Jesus (the “daily” sacrifice) in our mortal bodies so that His eternal life is made manifest in our mortal flesh in this earth.

    2 Corinthians 4:10-11 KJV
    (10) Always bearing about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our body.
    (11) For we which live are alway delivered unto death for Jesus' sake, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our mortal flesh.

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  3. orbiter

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    The process (for lack of a better word) is the same for us as it was for the first man Adam….the first man to KNOW God by having His Spirit breathed into him.

    The LORD God formed man (Hebrew: man = “Adam”) of the “dust” of the ground (Hebrew: ground = “Adamah”).

    This is in parable language and not literal to keep the natural man out of the understanding as the natural, earthy man thinks that spiritual things are foolishness to his hearing and will not go further with it. God conceals spiritual matters from the natural man but reveals them to us by His Spirit which reveals even the deep things of God.

    Genesis 2:7-8 KJV
    (7) And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

    We who have His Spirit breathed into us were also taken of the “adamah”.

    We are considered the “dust” of the ground (dust of the adamah) to this world because God chooses the “poor” (the poor according to this world’s eyes) to be rich in faith and to inherit His kingdom which is EVERLASTING and not a dying one.

    James 2:5 KJV
    (5) Hearken, my beloved brethren, Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him?

    Again, we who are called by God are the “DUST” of the ground (Adamah) as not many are “wise” according to this world. Not many are mighty according to this world. Not many are noble according to this world. According to this world, we are the “dust” of the world (adamah). But God forms us of the “dust” of the ground…the dust of the adamah.

    1 Corinthians 1:26-29 KJV
    (26) For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:

    God has chosen the foolish things of the world (that the world considers “great”) to shame down the worldly “wise”. God has chosen the weak things of the world (which according to the world is “strong”) to shame down the mighty.

    (27) But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;

    All of the things that the world highly esteems are really “base things”…things despised…and are used to bring them to nothing. The world and its lust perishes away as we speak for no flesh is being saved.

    (28) And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are:


    The world perishes in their highly esteemed things which are really base things. They perish from off this earth as they go about their ways for NO mortal FLESH can glory in His presence. Their mortal bodies still perish away to the grave as they go about working their meaningless works “under the sun” of God’s wrath that rises upon their mortal flesh as all flesh is as the grass. They are by nature the children of wrath as His wrath rises upon all. We, though, must labor to enter into His rest under His shadow from the "heat".

    (29) That no flesh should glory in his presence.

    Yet, God has allowed this world to enjoy its works as they perish in their mortal bodies to the grave. He still leaves them the witness of His goodness as He sends the rain upon them. He gives them fruitful seasons. He makes His sun to rise on the evil and on the good and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. This is why we must love our enemies as well as God is good to them also.

    Matthew 5:43-45 KJV
    (43) Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
    (44) But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
    (45) That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.


    The rich of this world are being made low as we speak as their mortal bodies wither away to the grave (as all flesh is as the grass that withers under the intense sun of God’s rising wrath upon them). But God allows the rich to rejoice while they fade away to the grave in their ways. No man can redeem his life from the grave with his riches.

    James 1:9-11 KJV
    (9) Let the brother of low degree rejoice in that he is exalted:
    (10) But the rich, in that he is made low: because as the flower of the grass he shall pass away.
    (11) For the sun is no sooner risen with a burning heat, but it withereth the grass, and the flower thereof falleth, and the grace of the fashion of it perisheth: so also shall the rich man fade away in his ways.


    God has given the sons of man “sore travail” to be “exercised” with …that is, to HUMILIATE or depress them. He allows the people of this world to enjoy their meaningless works “under the sun” of His wrath as their mortal flesh withers away to the grave. He lets the nations do their things and act out in their ways as they perish. NO mortal flesh can glory in His presence even though they may be rich with many of this world’s delights.

    Ecclesiastes 1:12-14 KJV
    (12) I the Preacher was king over Israel in Jerusalem.
    (13) And I gave my heart to seek and search out by wisdom concerning all things that are done under heaven: this sore travail hath God given to the sons of man to be exercised therewith.
    (14) I have seen all the works that are done under the sun; and, behold, all is vanity and vexation of spirit.


    ALL FLESH is as grass that withers away “under the sun” of God’s wrath.

    1 Peter 1:22-25 KJV
    (22) Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently:
    (23) Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

    (24) For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away:

    But the Word of the Lord endures forever. If we truly DO His Word, we shall also ABIDE in this earth to the ages. Let us truly hear the Word of God which lives and abides forever so that we might have His eternal life in this earth. The meek shall inherit this earth and not die from it like the outside world that perishes away as the grass under the sun of His wrath. They are by nature the “children of wrath”.

    (25) But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.


    The world and its lust is passing away as we speak as NO FLESH can glory in His presence as no flesh is being saved as all perish away to the grave. No rich man, no “wise” man, no mighty man can stop his destruction from off this earth. Their highly esteemed things cannot save them.

    1 John 2:15-17 KJV
    (15) Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
    (16) For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.


    But he that DOES the will of God ABIDES in this earth unto the ages….a very long time. Our days on this earth shall be like the days of heaven upon the earth.

    (17) And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.

    Let us to remember to always DO His will so that our days upon this earth are prolonged as the “days of heaven upon the earth”.

    Deuteronomy 11:20-23 KJV
    (20) And thou shalt write them upon the door posts of thine house, and upon thy gates:
    (21) That your days may be multiplied, and the days of your children, in the land which the LORD sware unto your fathers to give them, as the days of heaven upon the earth.


    We must keep His commandments…to DO them and to love the LORD our God…to walk in ALL of His ways and to keep close to Him.

    (22) For if ye shall diligently keep all these commandments which I command you, to do them, to love the LORD your God, to walk in all his ways, and to cleave unto him;

    Then the nations of this world shall be driven out before us and we shall possess them…..

    (23) Then will the LORD drive out all these nations from before you, and ye shall possess greater nations and mightier than yourselves.


    The LORD God took the man and put him into the garden of “Eden”…which means “delight”…..to dress (that is, WORK) it and to keep it. This is where we know God: by working and keeping His commandments. We call His commandments a “delight” (Eden) and He delights in us.

    Genesis 2:15 KJV
    (15) And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.

    It is God (as He has breathed into us His Spirit) who works within us to both to will and to DO His good “pleasure” (the meaning of “Eden”).

    Philippians 2:12-18 KJV
    (12) Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
    (13) For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.
    (14) Do all things without murmurings and disputings:


    Then as sons of God, we shall SHINE as lights in this dark world as we shall not perish but have everlasting life in this earth as we hold forth the Word of LIFE. The world shall see what it truly means to DO His will. Let the brother of low degree rejoice as he is being exalted to this status of not dying in this earth as Jesus is truly alive and we are His many infallible proofs to this dark and dying world that He is truly alive as we shall continue to live here. This is truly good news for us in the here-and-now.

    (15) That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;
    (16) Holding forth the word of life; that I may rejoice in the day of Christ, that I have not run in vain, neither laboured in vain.
    (17) Yea, and if I be offered upon the sacrifice and service of your faith, I joy, and rejoice with you all.
    (18) For the same cause also do ye joy, and rejoice with me.


    Don’t let the spirit of the antichrist deceive you. The antichrist denies that Jesus IS COMING in the flesh….our mortal flesh as His life appears (manifests, shines) there giving us His eternal, heavenly life in this earth. We are promised eternal life in this earth. Don’t let men use their good words and fair speeches to lead you astray. They serve their own belly and not our Lord Jesus Christ.

    1 John 2:24-26 KJV
    (24) Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.
    (25) And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.

    (26) These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.
     
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    Some pastors will not want to hear what the Spirit has to say and will contradict as they seek to keep their preaching-for-pay status in the church. They love to be first among us. They will mock and say "where is the promise of His coming" as they will continue to follow after their lusts. the scoffers: Where is the appearing eternal life of Jesus in this earth for all are still dying as it has been since the beginning of creation? They do not realize that they are still under the wrath of God and have not entered into His rest by the keeping of carnal commandments of men and teaching doctrines that are not saving the flesh of anyone.

    2 Peter 3:3-4 KJV
    (3) Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
    (4) And saying, Where is the promise of his coming?
    for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.


    Satan savors the things of men over the things that be of God…..and so will his ministers as they will seek to keep their “life” of preaching for earthly things as they will continue to walk after their lusts in the carnal churches of mere men where there are divisions,hatred of one another, envy and strife prevalent among them. They are still behaving like mere men and are still dying as such under His wrath as God is a consuming fire.

    Matthew 16:22-23 KJV
    (22) Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.
    (23) But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.


    They will rise up (exalt themselves) as Cain did against Abel and will go about “killing” the messenger with the spear of the tongue speaking malicious words…as Cain killed Abel. Whoever hates his brother is a “murderer”. They will walk after their lusts as the scoff and go in the way of Cain and will continue to run GREEDILY after the error of Balaam…..who loved the wages of his unrighteousness. They will continue to preach in their covetousness for money.

    Jude 1:11-13 KJV
    (11) Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core.
    (12) These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;


    They will have nothing to do with the Truth when they hear it. They are wandering stars (planets) to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness forever…..that is, they will not have His understanding and will “wander” in this earth without the knowledge of God with no chance of entering in as judgment.

    The “forever” part signifies that they will have no chance to enter in to understand as judgment for their sins. The wicked shall not understand. They will perish from off the earth in their sins.

    (13) Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.


    The wicked among us in the churches will do wickedly towards what they hear. The wicked shall not understand but the wise shall understand when the Lord comes to open up the Scripture of Truth to our hearing ears. Let him that has ears to hear, HEAR.

    Daniel 12:8-10 KJV
    (8) And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things?
    (9) And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.
    (10) Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.


    This was part of Cain’s punishment….going out from the presence of the LORD and dwelling in the land of “Nod”….meaning “wandering, vagrancy”. They will not have understanding…. And will be “wandering stars” in the blackness of darkness forever….having no understanding because they acted wickedly against what they heard the Spirit saying.

    Genesis 4:16 KJV
    (16) And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.

    Cain was called a “man from the LORD”. These are men that many call “men of God”. They are pastors among us….who love to be first and are serving for their own belly….tillers of the ground.

    They are counseled to hear and overcome the wrath that will come within their hearts and do well as they will hear the Spirit and be tempted to speak out in that wrath.

    Genesis 4:1 KJV
    (1) And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.

    A “man of God” is to FLEE these things (the love of money which many pastors covet after) and follow after righteousness.

    1 Timothy 6:9-12 KJV
    (9) But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition.
    (10) For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.
    (11) But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness.
    (12) Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, whereunto thou art also called, and hast professed a good profession before many witnesses.


    Yet, some will not cease sinning. The “man of sin” will be revealed among us….and we are not to “slay” them when we “find” them. Let us not “kill” them when they are manifest among us. The man of sin will not cease sinning as he (they) will speak evil of what they hear and will not repent of their sins.

    Genesis 4:
    (13) And Cain said unto the LORD, My punishment is greater than I can bear.
    (14) Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me


    Let us not follow after their evil behavior (and they will want you to) when they will hear the Spirit of Truth. Let NO MAN DECEIVE you for he that does righteousness is righteous even as HE is righteous.

    1 John 3:7-12 KJV
    (7) Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
    (8) He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.


    Whosoever is born of God does not commit sin. They will hear the Spirit and cease sinning. They will not sin towards what they hear the Spirit saying because they are born of God who begets us with the Word of Truth. They will be quick to hear and slow to speak and slow to wrath.

    (9) Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.


    But the “man of sin” will not cease sinning and will “slay” those whom he disagrees with. He will not show love towards a brother who may be speaking in the Spirit of truth.

    And so this is how the children of the devil (slanderer) are made manifest: they will not do righteousness and neither shall they love their brother. they will not cease sinning…speaking evil of their brothers even after being reminded of THE MESSAGE to have love for another. There will be no more sacrifice for continuing to sin once they have been warned 3 times of the holy covenant….to have brotherly love as He loved us and gave Himself for us.

    (10) In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.
    (11) For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another.
    (12) Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.


    There will be remain no more sacrifice for willful sins after being reminded of the holy covenant of brotherly love we are to keep.

    Hebrews 10:26-27 KJV
    (26) For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
    (27) But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.


    The “man of sin” will exalt himself against the Word of Truth that he will hear and will bring forth sin and will not cease sinning. Sin lies at the “door” of the mouth and we must rule over it.

    James 1:14-20 KJV
    (14) But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.

    When "IT IS FINISHED", there is no more sacrifice for willful sins.

    (15) Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.
    (16) Do not err, my beloved brethren.
    (17) Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.


    Of His will does He beget us with the Word of Truth so that we may bring forth fruits of righteousness towards the hearing of His voice. We are to be the firstfruits among His creatures.

    (18) Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures.
    (19) Wherefore, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath:

    The man of sin will let wrath get the better of him and he will speak evil words….prating against those whom He sends with malicious words.

    (20) For the wrath of man worketh not the righteousness of God.

    The man of sin will OPPOSE and will exalt himself against the Word…all that is called God or that is worshipped. He will sit in the temple of God showing himself that he is God….that is, he will exalt himself in the congregation and do things supposedly in the authority of God….in the name of God.

    2 Thessalonians 2:3-4 KJV
    (3) Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
    (4) Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

    Let us not follow after their example of doing evil but do that which is good. He that does good is of God and he that does evil has not seen God.

    3 John 1:9-12 KJV
    (9) I wrote unto the church: but Diotrephes, who loveth to have the preeminence among them, receiveth us not.
    (10) Wherefore, if I come, I will remember his deeds which he doeth, prating against us with malicious words: and not content therewith, neither doth he himself receive the brethren, and forbiddeth them that would, and casteth them out of the church.
    (11) Beloved, follow not that which is evil, but that which is good. He that doeth good is of God: but he that doeth evil hath not seen God.
    (12) Demetrius hath good report of all men, and of the truth itself: yea, and we also bear record; and ye know that our record is true.
     
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    ....continued from previous post

    The LORD set a mark (token, sign) upon Cain lest any finding him should “kill” him.
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    Genesis 4:
    (15) And the LORD said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the LORD set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.
    (16) And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.


    The mark upon Cain will appear as they persecute those who will hear the Spirit and will believe in what they hear. We must not render evil for their evil or suffer seven-fold for our wrong doing. We must suffer for righteousness sake and not for wrongdoing in the face of their persecution which shall try our faith.

    2 Thessalonians 1:3-6 KJV
    (3) We are bound to thank God always for you, brethren, as it is meet, because that your faith groweth exceedingly, and the charity of every one of you all toward each other aboundeth;
    (4) So that we ourselves glory in you in the churches of God for your patience and faith in all your persecutions and tribulations that ye endure:


    Their persecution of us is the MANIFEST TOKEN (mark, sign) of the righteous judgment of God upon them in which we are to suffer for and be counted worthy of the kingdom of God.

    (5) Which is a manifest token of the righteous judgment of God, that ye may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which ye also suffer:
    (6) Seeing it is a righteous thing with God to recompense tribulation to them that trouble you;


    Their persecutions of us….their slandering of us with evil words….is the EVIDENT TOKEN of perdition (destruction of them) and to us of SALVATION for unto us is given in the behalf of Christ not only to believe in Him (as we hear His voice and believe) but to also suffer for His sake the persecution of the unbelieving “church” people against us in this coming time of trouble.

    Philippians 1:27-30 KJV
    (27) Only let your conversation be as it becometh the gospel of Christ: that whether I come and see you, or else be absent, I may hear of your affairs, that ye stand fast in one spirit, with one mind striving together for the faith of the gospel;
    (28) And in nothing terrified by your adversaries: which is to them an evident token of perdition, but to you of salvation, and that of God.
    (29) For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake;
    (30) Having the same conflict which ye saw in me, and now hear to be in me.
     
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    The “certain men”…..the ungodly men… who have crept in among us “unawares” and are turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness are those “men of sin” who have not been manifested yet.

    Jude 1:3-5 KJV
    (3) Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.
    (4) For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ
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    Their purpose: to destroy those who do not really believe. The mystery of iniquity is already at work among us. Believing is DOING His will. We must receive the LOVE of the Truth by DOING it.

    (5) I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not.

    Believing is doing the Holy Commandment to have love for one another.

    2 Peter 2:17-21 KJV
    (17) These are wells without water, clouds that are carried with a tempest; to whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever.
    (18) For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error.


    These “certain men” promise us liberty from doing His will as they preach for doctrines the commandments of men that many fight and war with each other over. They use “great swelling” words of emptiness to allure through the lusts of the flesh (those who lust for debate, envy and strife).

    (19) While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage.

    Those who are just escaping the pollutions of the world through His knowledge (escaping “Egypt”) are overcome by these men and brought into their church bondage when they “fall asleep” to doing His will.

    It would have been better for them not to have known the Way of righteousness than after knowing it to have turned from the Holy Commandment (to have love for one another) that was delivered for them to keep.

    (20) For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
    (21) For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.


    The “man of sin’s” presence (coming = presence) among those who have “fallen asleep” to doing His will is in accordance to the working of Satan to deceive those who are perishing from off this earth because they do not receive the LOVE of the Truth that they might be saved. They do not DO the Truth and so fall victim to those who are condemned to perish. They go and sit together with the “son of perdition” whose judgment is not slumbering.

    If we sit together with them, then we are being destroyed along with them. We are “unclean” by being attached to them and serving their handwriting of church dogmas that is not saving any mortal flesh in this earth. MANY are going down the broad way to their destruction as NO FLESH…no mortal flesh…is being saved in ANY of their “churches”. We must hear and come out from among them and be separate.

    2 Thessalonians 2:9-12 KJV
    (9) Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
    (10) And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
    (11) And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
    (12) That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

    The man of sin will persecute those who do hear and believe and depart....thereby revealing his true nature and purpose.
     
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    The “man of sin” is many men who collectively have the same nature and purpose within the churches of men.

    They will be consumed with the Spirit of His mouth…that is, they will not stand to hear His words of life and spirit and will contradict and behave badly towards the hearing of His voice as He opens up the Scriptures to our understanding. We…who will believe in what we hear Him saying…are to keep His sacrifice in our lives when they will speak evil of us. The keeping of His sacrifice (the Lamb) in our lives is the “brightness of His presence”. Coming = presence.

    2 Thessalonians 2:7-8 KJV
    (7) For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
    (8) And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming
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    The man of sin will not believe in His words of life and spirit when they hear them.

    John 6:63-64 KJV
    (63) It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
    (64) But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.


    The “holy angels” are the holy words of the Lord. Let us not be ashamed of Him and His words (the holy angels).

    Mark 8:38 KJV
    (38) Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.

    The “angels” = ministering spirits set forth to minister for those who shall be heirs of salvation. They are our Lord’s words of life and spirit as He interprets the Scriptures to our hearing ears. They minister unto us as we hear and believe and are fed by His words. He that has ears to hear, let him hear what the Spirit is saying.

    Hebrews 1:13-14 KJV
    (13) But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool?
    (14) Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?


    This is a hearing city that rules over us.

    Hebrews 12:22-25 KJV
    (22) But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,

    The “angels” are the words of just men (the biblical saints who wrote the Scriptures via the Spirit for our benefit today) made “perfect” in the interpretation of Jesus who speaks better things from Heaven to our hearing ears and minds.

    (23) To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,
    (24) And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.
    (25) See that ye refuse not him that speaketh. For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much more shall not we escape, if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven:


    Those who will not believe will be tormented in the presence of the “holy angels”….His words of life and spirit….and in the presence of the Lamb….the keeping of His sacrifice in our lives as they will persecute us for believing in Him and His words.

    Revelation 14:10 KJV
    (10) The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
     
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    The tongue is a “fire” that sets on fire the wheel of nature and it is itself set on fire of “hell”….gehenna. It defiles the whole body. What comes out of the mouth defiles the man no matter if he professes himself to be a “Christian”. If that man does not bridle the tongue (especially at the hearing of the Word of Truth spoken in the Spirit), then that man’s “religion” is in vain.

    James 3:6 KJV
    (6) And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the tongue among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell.


    The tongue that speaks evil things sets on us on fire as we “flame” others with malicious words and slander. We use it to curse other men. Let us not use it to speak evil of those brothers sent out to speak His words of life and spirit to our hearing ears at the most critical time of our lives….at the hearing of His voice that speaks from Heaven.

    James 3:7-10 KJV
    (7) For every kind of beasts, and of birds, and of serpents, and of things in the sea, is tamed, and hath been tamed of mankind:
    (8) But the tongue can no man tame; it is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison.
    (9) Therewith bless we God, even the Father; and therewith curse we men, which are made after the similitude of God.
    (10) Out of the same mouth proceedeth blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not so to be.


    Those who will follow the evil behavior of the man of sin against the hearing of the Spirit of Truth in this coming time will suffer the righteous judgment of God upon them for their willful sins. Their own tongues will continue to speak evil as they “flame” others for believing and preaching the Word of Truth. This “flaming” of others with their tongues shall bring wrath and tribulation upon their own heads. They will be shown no mercy….. “without mixture” in the righteous judgment of God (the “brimstone”) that will be upon them. They will be tormented by the fire of their own tongues and with brimstone….the righteous judgment of God upon them as they hear His voice speak the living words. they will be tormented in the presence of His holy messengers…..His holy words that they will hear and speak evil of.

    They will persecute those who will believe in His living words….the Living Water. We are not to return evil for their evil but keep the sacrifice of the Lamb in our lives. They will be tormented in the presence of the Lamb as they will weary themselves in their malicious words to have us return evil for their evil “flaming” of us.

    Revelation 14:10 KJV
    (10) The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:


    The judgment of God upon them will be WITHOUT MERCY as they shall die in their sins….their evil “flaming” of us as they persecute us. The “flame” of the tongue will bring them torment but let us not return evil for their evil thereby “cooling” their tongue. If we continue to keep the sacrifice of the Lamb in the face of their persecutions, then the “torment” continues for them.

    Without mercy....."have mercy on me".

    Luke 16:24 KJV
    (24) And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.


    When this time comes, let us have patience and keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus in our lives. Let us keep the sacrifice of the Lamb as they are judged for their sins and will not cease speaking evil of us. Our faith shall be tried in the “fire” of their persecutions.

    Revelation 14:12-13 KJV
    (12) Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

    Let us die to sin….dying in the Lord. Let us be faithful unto “death”…the death of our Lord Jesus and die to sin as they “flame” us for believing in Him and His words.

    (13) And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.

    Let us keep the faith and patience in all of the persecutions and tribulations that we shall endure as the “church” unbelievers are given to the “fire” when they will use their tongues to flame us which brings tribulation upon their own heads (there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth….rage).

    2 Thessalonians 1:3-9 KJV
    (3) We are bound to thank God always for you, brethren, as it is meet, because that your faith groweth exceedingly, and the charity of every one of you all toward each other aboundeth;
    (4) So that we ourselves glory in you in the churches of God for your patience and faith in all your persecutions and tribulations that ye endure:


    The “brimstone” is the manifest toke of the righteous judgment of God upon them.

    (5) Which is a manifest token of the righteous judgment of God, that ye may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which ye also suffer:
    (6) Seeing it is a righteous thing with God to recompense tribulation to them that trouble you;


    Blessed are they that die in the Lord for they shall rest with the saints in the face of their persecutions.

    (7) And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
    (8) In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
    (9) Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his powe
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    He that has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says unto the churches.

    He that overcomes shall not be hurt of the "second death: of those who in their willful sins will persecute (flaming us with their evil words) us for hearing and believing in Him who speaks to us from Heaven in the Spirit. They...the unbelievers of the churches....shall die from off this earth in their willful sins without remedy...without His mercy. There will be no more sacrifice for their willful sins when they are reminded to keep the holy covenant of brotherly love. They will treat the covenant as a common, unholy thing to break in their unbelief of the Truth and evil speaking.

    If we are faithful unto THE death….the death of our Lord Jesus….as we die to sin in the face of their flaming of us with their evil tongue, then we shall not be hurt of their persecutions. If we do wrong towards their evil, then we shall be “hurt” of them. We shall suffer for our wrongdoing in the face of their fiery persecutions of us. Let us overcome the temptation to return evil for evil in this coming "evil day" of their persecutions.

    Revelation 2:11-12 KJV
    (11) He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death.

    The wicked shall not understand (as they will be struck with spiritual blindness for their sins) and will “weary themselves to find the door”. In their unbelief, they will speak evil of us for believing in the Word of Truth that we hear and will want us to open the “door” of our mouths to return evil for their evil.

    We must not return evil for their evil but “shut the door” of our mouths and depart from their churches or get caught up in their iniquity by eventually fighting with them.

    Genesis 19:10-13 KJV
    (10) But the men put forth their hand, and pulled Lot into the house to them, and shut to the door.
    (11) And they smote the men that were at the door of the house with blindness, both small and great: so that they wearied themselves to find the door.
    (12) And the men said unto Lot, Hast thou here any besides? son in law, and thy sons, and thy daughters, and whatsoever thou hast in the city, bring them out of this place:
    (13) For we will destroy this place, because the cry of them is waxen great before the face of the LORD; and the LORD hath sent us to destroy it.


    If we do not leave, we shall succumb to their evil and speak out in evil in return. We must leave or get caught up with the iniquity of the city and be consumed as we bite and devour each other.

    Genesis 19:15-17 KJV
    (15) And when the morning arose, then the angels hastened Lot, saying, Arise, take thy wife, and thy two daughters, which are here; lest thou be consumed in the iniquity of the city.
    (16) And while he lingered, the men laid hold upon his hand, and upon the hand of his wife, and upon the hand of his two daughters; the LORD being merciful unto him: and they brought him forth, and set him without the city.
    (17) And it came to pass, when they had brought them forth abroad, that he said, Escape for thy life; look not behind thee, neither stay thou in all the plain; escape to the mountain, lest thou be consumed.


    Let us serve God in righteousness always when we shall suffer the persecutions of the unbelieving church people who will “flame” us for no longer serving and worshiping their exalted church things. They will think it strange that we will no longer run with them after their things and will “flame” us in their wrath.

    Case-in-point: Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego who was delivered unto the “burning fiery furnace”. Likewise, the Lord shall deliver us out of their hand if we are faithful unto the death as we keep the dying of the Lord in our mortal bodies by not returning evil for their evil.

    Daniel 3:17-28 KJV
    (17) If it be so, our God whom we serve is able to deliver us from the burning fiery furnace, and he will deliver us out of thine hand, O king.
    (18) But if not, be it known unto thee, O king, that we will not serve thy gods, nor worship the golden image which thou hast set up.
    (19) Then was Nebuchadnezzar full of fury, and the form of his visage was changed against Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego: therefore he spake, and commanded that they should heat the furnace one seven times more than it was wont to be heated.
    (20) And he commanded the most mighty men that were in his army to bind Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, and to cast them into the burning fiery furnace
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    Let us put on the whole armor of God in the “evil day” when we are to be persecuted by the unbelieving church members.

    We are to stand firm when we are cast down in the fiery furnace of their persecutions with the belt of truth buckled around our waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place. We are to have our feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace.

    In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can put our all the flaming arrows of the wicked. Also, we are to take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.

    (21) Then these men were bound in their coats, their hosen, and their hats, and their other garments, and were cast into the midst of the burning fiery furnace.


    The fiery persecutions will slay those who will speak evil of us as their own wickedness will come upon themselves.

    (22) Therefore because the king's commandment was urgent, and the furnace exceeding hot, the flame of the fire slew those men that took up Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego.
    (23) And these three men, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, fell down bound into the midst of the burning fiery furnace.
    (24) Then Nebuchadnezzar the king was astonied, and rose up in haste, and spake, and said unto his counsellors, Did not we cast three men bound into the midst of the fire? They answered and said unto the king, True, O king.


    Let us follow in the footsteps of the Son of God and not return evil for their evil so that the “fire” of their persecutions of us shall not hurt us:

    For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps: Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth:

    Who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he suffered, he threatened not; but committed himself to him that judgeth righteously: Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.

    (25) He answered and said, Lo, I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they have no hurt; and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God.
    (26) Then Nebuchadnezzar came near to the mouth of the burning fiery furnace, and spake, and said, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, ye servants of the most high God, come forth, and come hither. Then Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, came forth of the midst of the fire.


    The “second death” of those who shall perish in their sins…perishing in their fiery flaming of us with evil words…shall not hurt us if we suffer for His sake in righteousness.

    (27) And the princes, governors, and captains, and the king's counsellors, being gathered together, saw these men, upon whose bodies the fire had no power, nor was an hair of their head singed, neither were their coats changed, nor the smell of fire had passed on them.
    (28) Then Nebuchadnezzar spake, and said, Blessed be the God of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, who hath sent his angel, and delivered his servants that trusted in him, and have changed the king's word, and yielded their bodies, that they might not serve nor worship any god, except their own God.


    Who is he that will HARM us if we are followers of that which is good.

    1 Peter 3:13-17 KJV
    (13) And who is he that will harm you, if ye be followers of that which is good?

    If we suffer for righeousness’ sake, then HAPPY are we…..and we are not to be afraid of their “terror” neither are we to be troubled by the those who will undergo the "second death" where there is no more remedy for their sins.

    (14) But and if ye suffer for righteousness' sake, happy are ye: and be not afraid of their terror, neither be troubled;
    (15) But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:


    It is better to suffer for well doing than for evil doing. It is the will of God to do so in the face of the “terror” of the persecutions of the unbelievers of the churches in this coming “evil day” that many shall face from their own church members who will speak evil of us.

    (16) Having a good conscience; that, whereas they speak evil of you, as of evildoers, they may be ashamed that falsely accuse your good conversation in Christ.
    (17) For it is better, if the will of God be so, that ye suffer for well doing, than for evil doin
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    Let us not be with those who will refuse Him that speaks and staying “asleep” to His righteousness when we hear His voice speak to us from Heaven in the Spirit of Truth. Let us hear and become as a “little child” in our doings so that we may enter in to know His knowledge.

    Proverbs 20:11-13 KJV
    (11) Even a child is known by his doings, whether his work be pure, and whether it be right.

    Let us who have ears to hear, hear the Spirit of Truth. The LORD made for us ears to hear and eyes to see. Let us use them.

    (12) The hearing ear, and the seeing eye, the LORD hath made even both of them.

    Let us not love “sleep” (the envy, strife, contentions done previously during our ignorance of the Truth) but instead “awake” to His righteousness (open our eyes) and be fully satisfied with the Bread from Heaven as He feeds us with His knowledge by the opening up of the Scriptures to our hearing ears.

    (13) Love not sleep, lest thou come to poverty; open thine eyes, and thou shalt be satisfied with bread.


    Let us “AWAKE” from our “sleep” and arise from the dead and Christ shall give us Light…the Light of His knowledge. Let us be filled with what the Spirit is saying and not be “drunk” with the wine of wrath. The wrath of man does not work the righteousness of God.

    Ephesians 5:14-18 KJV
    (14) Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light.
    (15) See then that ye walk circumspectly, not as fools, but as wise,
    (16) Redeeming the time, because the days are evil.
    (17) Wherefore be ye not unwise, but understanding what the will of the Lord is.
    (18) And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;


    Let us not be with those who will continue to love “sleep” and who will turn away from Him that speaks from Heaven.

    Hebrews 12:24-25 KJV
    (24) And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.
    (25) See that ye refuse not him that speaketh. For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much more shall not we escape, if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven:


    Some will hear and turn away from the Word of Truth in their unbelief in order to keep/retain their church denomination’s ways and thoughts. They will not enter in.

    Let us not be in their evil company when they do. We are to take heed lest there be within any of us an evil heart of UNBELIEF in what we hear the Spirit saying and depart from the living God.

    Hebrews 3:12-16 KJV
    (12) Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.
    (13) But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.
    (14) For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;


    Those who forget the past (in the Scriptures that were written before for our benefit today) are doomed to repeat the SAME mistakes of those in the past who turned away from hearing His words. They heard His voice and did PROVOKE. Let us not follow after their evil example nor of those who will be forgetful TODAY.

    (15) While it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation.
    (16) For some, when they had heard, did provoke:
    howbeit not all that came out of Egypt by Moses.


    They mocked the messengers of God and despised His words and misused His prophets until the wrath of God arose against them until there was NO REMEDY. There will be no more sacrifice for our willful sins once we have received the full knowledge of His Truth.

    2 Chronicles 36:14-16 KJV
    (14) Moreover all the chief of the priests, and the people, transgressed very much after all the abominations of the heathen; and polluted the house of the LORD which he had hallowed in Jerusalem.
    (15) And the LORD God of their fathers sent to them by his messengers, rising up betimes, and sending; because he had compassion on his people, and on his dwelling place:
    (16) But they mocked the messengers of God, and despised his words, and misused his prophets, until the wrath of the LORD arose against his people, till there was no remedy
    .

    There remains NO MORE SACRIFICE for WILLFUL sin after we have received the knowledge of the Truth. We are reminded of the holy covenant (have brotherly love) to keep. Let us not reject His holy covenant in order to speak evil of a brother who comes to preach the Word of Truth to our hearing ears.

    Hebrews 10:26-31 KJV
    (26) For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
    (27) But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
    (28) He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:


    Let us not trodden the Son of God under our foot who comes to give us an understanding…..who opens up the Scriptures to our hearing ears.

    Let us not count the blood of the covenant (brotherly love) by which we are sanctified as an “unholy” (common) thing….something that we can just easily break without regard to the seriousness of keeping it. The Lord will judge His people who will be found not behaving in righteousness towards the hearing of His voice.

    (29) Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
    (30) For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.
    (31) It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.


    We are commanded to “awake” to His righteousness when we hear His voice in the Spirit. We already know within our hearts how we must respond. Let not be forgetful but instead REMEMBER to let brotherly love continue so that we may open up unto Him IMMEDIATELY when we hear His voice. Let us REMEMBER to let brotherly love continue when He shall send His messengers out to speak His words of knowledge to our ears.

    Let the “loins” of our minds be always prepared and our lights burning with hope upon the grace that is being brought to us at the revelation of Jesus Christ….at His disclosure of the Word of Truth.

    Luke 12:35-40 KJV
    (35) Let your loins be girded about, and your lights burning;
    (36) And ye yourselves like unto men that wait for their lord, when he will return from the wedding; that when he cometh and knocketh, they may open unto him immediately.


    Some will hear and IMMEDIATELY open up to Him as they will be found “watching” (as they are ALREADY awake to doing His righteousness) when He comes to give us an understanding. He will come and make them sit down to “meat”…the meat of the Word of Truth….and will come forth and “serve them” with His knowledge.

    (37) Blessed are those servants, whom the lord when he cometh shall find watching: verily I say unto you, that he shall gird himself, and make them to sit down to meat, and will come forth and serve them.

    Some will hear and not respond immediately with His righteous works towards the hearing of the Son of man who is in Heaven. They will be found still “sleeping” in their evil response towards the hearing of His voice. They are warned in the “second watch” to let brotherly love continue and will then awake to His righteousness and will repent of their evil in order to do His will. “Blessed”…HAPPY…are those who will awake and serve Him in righteousness.

    Some will continue to not “awake” and will be warned a third time (the “third watch”). Happy are those who will be found awaking to His righteousness and serving Him by doing so even in the “third watch” as they will be found finally serving Him even at this late hour/warning.

    (38) And if he shall come in the second watch, or come in the third watch, and find them so, blessed are those servants.
    (39) And this know, that if the goodman of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched, and not have suffered his house to be broken through.
    (40) Be ye therefore ready also: for the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not.


    Let us remember to let brotherly love continue….for there will be NO MORE SACRIFICE for willful sins (for three transgression and for four….the punishment will not be turned away). Let us not be forgetful of the brotherly covenant but remember to do it.

    Amos 1:9-10 KJV
    (9) Thus saith the LORD; For three transgressions of Tyrus, and for four, I will not turn away the punishment thereof; because they delivered up the whole captivity to Edom, and remembered not the brotherly covenant:
    (10) But I will send a fire on the wall of Tyrus, which shall devour the palaces thereof.


    We must hear those brothers sent out by Him to speak His words (Christ speaking within them) as they will be speaking before God in Christ for our edifying.

    2 Corinthians 12:19-21 KJV
    (19) Again, think ye that we excuse ourselves unto you? we speak before God in Christ: but we do all things, dearly beloved, for your edifying.


    Let us always be "awake" to His righteousness. Some will be found “sleeping” in their response towards those sent out by Him to speak His words to their ears. There will be those “sleeping” to His righteousness and be found debating, envying, filled with wrath, strife, etc…

    (20) For I fear, lest, when I come, I shall not find you such as I would, and that I shall be found unto you such as ye would not: lest there be debates, envyings, wraths, strifes, backbitings, whisperings, swellings, tumults:

    They are warned to “awake” to His righteousness and repent of their uncleanness which they will have committed against a brother who will be speaking the words of Christ to their hearing ears.

    (21) And lest, when I come again, my God will humble me among you, and that I shall bewail many which have sinned already, and have not repented of the uncleanness and fornication and lasciviousness which they have committed.


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    ....continued from previous post

    Happy are those who will “awake” even in the “third watch”. There will be no more sacrifice for willful sins….for three transgressions and for four solidifies our judgment in the hands of the living God. There will be no remedy.

    2 Corinthians 13:1-8 KJV
    (1) This is the third time I am coming to you. In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established.
    (2) I told you before, and foretell you, as if I were present, the second time; and being absent now I write to them which heretofore have sinned, and to all other, that, if I come again, I will not spare:


    Let us remember to let brotherly love continue and entertain “strangers”…..those brothers sent out by Him to speak His words (Christ speaking in them) to our hearing ears. Let us be found repenting of our evil responses to the hearing of His voice.

    (3) Since ye seek a proof of Christ speaking in me, which to you-ward is not weak, but is mighty in you.
    (4) For though he was crucified through weakness, yet he liveth by the power of God. For we also are weak in him, but we shall live with him by the power of God toward yo
    u.

    We are rejected if we continue to willfully sin and not repent. We are then “reprobates”…REJECTED. “It is finished”…. as there will be no more sacrifice for our willful sins after we have been called to “awake” to His righteousness after a third time and have been found not “awaking”. Let us prove ourselves whether we are in the faith or not and be found of Him not doing any evil towards the hearing of a brother who speaks His words (Christ speaking in him). Let us not fail the test.

    (5) Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?
    (6) But I trust that ye shall know that we are not reprobates.
    (7) Now I pray to God that ye do no evil; not that we should appear approved, but that ye should do that which is honest, though we be as reprobates.
    (8) For we can do nothing against the truth, but for the truth
    .

    Let us hear the Spirit and love those brothers sent out by Him to speak His words of spirit and life to our ears. We purify our souls in obeying the Truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brothers who are sent out by Him. Let us keep the covenant of brotherly love. See that we love one another with a PURE HEART fervently (keeping the blood of the covenant as He loved us and gave Himself for us and so we must have love for one another).

    1 Peter 1:21-23 KJV
    (21) Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God.
    (22) Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently:
    (23) Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever
     
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    The Son of God comes to give us an understanding as He opens up the Scriptures to our hearing ears. We are to take heed on how we hear so that more shall be given to us.

    We must be found of Him quick to hear and slow to speak and slow to wrath because what He speaks (the Word of Truth from Heaven) differs from the word of earthly men have been preaching to us for so long in their churches where there is NO KNOWLEDGE. We are to hear and be found of Him walking worthy of God who calls us unto His kingdom and glory.

    1 Thessalonians 2:11-16 KJV
    (11) As ye know how we exhorted and comforted and charged every one of you, as a father doth his children,
    (12) That ye would walk worthy of God, who hath called you unto his kingdom and glory.


    We are to hear and receive the Word of God from Heaven by those who are sent by Him to speak His words of spirit and life. BELIEVE in the Word….eat of this Bread from Heaven and live forever. The word of men that is being preached in the churches of carnally-thinking-and-acting men does not give us His life. The word of men does not feed us. Many are famished in the great famine of hearing His words.

    (13) For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe.

    Those who preach and follow the word of men in their churches will persecute us for believing in the Word of God received from Heaven to our hearing ears. We shall suffer like things from our own “countrymen” as they will follow the evil examples of the past of their unbelieving fathers.

    (14) For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews:
    (15) Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men:


    They will also fill up their sins as they will seek to prevent the Word of God from Heaven from being preached unto their congregations until there will be no remedy for them from His wrath. There will be no more sacrifice for their willful sins but will have only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. They will die in their sins....their fiery flaming of their own tongues which will persecute us who who will hear and believe in the Word of Truth that we hear from Heaven.

    (16) Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: for the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost.

    Every man is tempted by his own lust when he hears the Word of God spoken from Heaven. He is tempted to speak out in wrath in order to defend his preaching…or his own denominational thoughts and ways.

    Every man will be tempted by his own lust within his own heart to speak out in envy, strife and contentions of what he hears the Spirit of Truth saying. He will be enticed by others who will be doing the same evil things. They will take pleasure in others who will do the same.

    We must refrain our tongues from speaking evil. Eschew evil and live.

    James 1:13-18 KJV
    (13) Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:
    (14) But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.


    When lust conceives within the heart, it brings forth sin out of the mouth and when “it is finished”, sin brings forth death.

    There will be no more sacrifice for willful sins after we have been warned to remember to keep the covenant of brotherly love and will reject it (thereby affirming Cain’s response to God: “am I my brother’s keeper?”). Let us not go in the way of Cain and have brotherly love...remembering the holy covenant.

    Do not err my beloved brothers by speaking out in wrath or envy or covetousness that is within the heart. Let us overcome our wrath and be found of Him dressed in white garments….in His righteousness (putting on Christ at the hearing of His voice). Let us keep the covenant that we vow to keep. Let us keep our “vows”.

    (15) Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.
    (16) Do not err, my beloved brethren.
    (17) Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.


    Of His own will does He beget us with the Word of Truth so that we should be a kind of first fruits of all His creatures in this earth.

    (18) Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures.

    We are to hear the Word of Truth, the good news of our salvation (which in this earth and not after we “die and go to heaven” as preached by those who are perishing from off this earth).

    We are to hear and believe in what we hear and be sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise….the promise of eternal life in this earth as the purchased possession (our mortal bodies….the earthen vessel) is to be redeemed unto the praise of His glory (as this world shall see His appearing life in our mortal bodies and will praise God in Heaven above).

    Ephesians 1:12-21 KJV
    (12) That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ.
    (13) In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
    (14) Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.
    (15) Wherefore I also, after I heard of your faith in the Lord Jesus, and love unto all the saints,
    (16) Cease not to give thanks for you, making mention of you in my prayers;
    (17) That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him:


    Let us hear His knowledge….having the eyes of our understanding enlightened. Let us hope in His calling. Let us rejoice in His knowledge and be thankful and praise Him above.

    (18) The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints,
    (19) And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power,
    (20) Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places,
    (21) Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come:


    But some will not hear and will not bridle their tongue as they will speak evil of what they hear. Every OPEN VESSEL (the open mouth) which has no covering bound upon it, is unclean.

    Numbers 19:15 KJV
    (15) And every open vessel, which hath no covering bound upon it, is unclean.


    That man’s “religion” is in vain.

    James 1:26 KJV
    (26) If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion is vain.

    Some will become full of wrath…..being a “vessel full of vinegar” ….and will speak with an unbridled tongue full of evil words. Their hearts will be full of wrath and they will put their wrath upon the tongue (the hyssop) and will put it to His mouth as they will speak evil of what He says to us from Heaven as they did in the “third hour” and then Jesus said “it is finished”.

    There will be no more sacrifice for those who will continue to willfully sin as they will NOT REPENT of their evil as they will continue to mock and deride and speak evil of what they hear.

    John 19:28-30 KJV
    (28) After this, Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the scripture might be fulfilled, saith, I thirst.
    (29) Now there was set a vessel full of vinegar: and they filled a spunge with vinegar, and put it upon hyssop, and put it to his mouth.
    (30) When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.

    I thirst:
    Let us give a cup of cold water metaphorically speaking to those whom He sends out to speak His words. those who do give a hospitable response will NEVER lose their reward. Let us not put sourness (vinegar) towards the mouth by speaking words of wrath and bitterness towards the speaker.

    Matthew 10:40-42 KJV
    (40) He that receiveth you receiveth me, and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me.
    (41) He that receiveth a prophet in the name of a prophet shall receive a prophet's reward; and he that receiveth a righteous man in the name of a righteous man shall receive a righteous man's reward.
    (42) And whosoever shall give to drink unto one of these little ones a cup of cold water only in the name of a disciple, verily I say unto you, he shall in no wise lose his reward.


    Let us not be like Esau who did not find a place of repentance and was REJECTED and did not inherit the blessing. We shall not also inherit the blessing of eternal life if we are found behaving like Esau.

    Hebrews 12:14-17 KJV
    (14) Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:
    (15) Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled;
    (16) Lest there be any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright.
    (17) For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tea
    rs.

    Let us be found serving Him with fear and rejoicing with trembling at the hearing of His voice.

    Kiss the Son rather than put evil words to His mouth lest He be angry and we perish from the Way.

    Happy are those who will put their trust in Him. Let us be the FIRST to trust in Christ….to be the firstfruits of His creatures being begotten with the Word of Truth from Heaven.

    Psalms 2:10-12 KJV
    (10) Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye judges of the earth.
    (11) Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling.
    (12) Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in
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    The Lord shall send His angels (messengers) out with a great sound of a trumpet. We are to hear the Spirit and “awake” to His righteousness. Those sent out to speak His living words of spirit shall gather His elect from the “four winds”….from EVERY WIND of doctrine that men are preaching in their craftiness as they lie in wait to deceive.

    Matthew 24:31 KJV
    (31) And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

    He sends His messengers out to gather together His elect….for the “perfecting of the saints”….for the work of ministry to those who will listen and for the building of the body of Christ until we all come in the UNITY of faith and of the KNOWLEDGE of the Son of God unto a complete man unto the stature of the fullness of Christ. His elect shall hear and believe. They shall rejoice in what they hear and will have peace.

    Ephesians 4:11-16 KJV
    (11) And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
    (12) For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
    (13) Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
    (14) That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
    (15) But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:
    (16) From whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplieth, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, maketh increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love.


    But those who will not listen and will behave badly towards what they hear…they will continue to do iniquity. They are cast into the furnace of fire….where the tongue becomes a fire and speaks every kind of evil which brings them torment: wailing and gnashing of teeth (rage). The wicked shall not have peace.

    Matthew 13:41-43 KJV
    (41) The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
    (42) And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
    (43) Then shall the righteo
    us shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

    When He calls, they will not answer. When He speaks, they will not hear but will instead choose to do evil before His eyes and will choose to those things that He does not delight in.

    Isaiah 65:12-14 KJV
    (12) Therefore will I number you to the sword, and ye shall all bow down to the slaughter: because when I called, ye did not answer; when I spake, ye did not hear; but did evil before mine eyes, and did choose that wherein I delighted not.

    His servants shall hear His voice in the Spirit of Truth and shall “eat” and be satisfied with what they hear….the Bread of Heaven. Those who will not hear, shall be “hungry”. His servants shall rejoice while those who will not hear shall be ashamed of His words.

    (13) Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, my servants shall eat, but ye shall be hungry: behold, my servants shall drink, but ye shall be thirsty: behold, my servants shall rejoice, but ye shall be ashamed:

    His servants shall sing for joy of heart and but those who will not hear shall cry for sorrow of hear and howl for vexation of spirit.

    (14) Behold, my servants shall sing for joy of heart, but ye shall cry for sorrow of heart, and shall howl for vexation of spirit.

    They will not stand what they hear and shall be tormented in the presence of the holy angels….His WORDS.

    Revelation 14:10 KJV
    (10) The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:


    The Spirit of His mouth shall consume them as they will not be able to receive His testimony and will behave very badly towards what they hear.

    2 Thessalonians 2:8 KJV
    (8) And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
     
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    The wicked (the unbelievers in the churches) shall not understand in this coming time as they will reject the things that His voice shall say in the Spirit of Truth. It was the religious that rejected the Lord 2000 years ago and it will be no different today. They shall not enter in to understand but instead will be ashamed of His words….the holy messengers. They will not receive His testimony.

    Luke 9:26 KJV
    (26) For whosoever shall be ashamed of me and of my words, of him shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he shall come in his own glory, and in his Father's, and of the holy angels.

    Let us not be ashamed of the testimony of our Lord.

    2 Timothy 1:8-12 KJV
    (8) Be not thou therefore ashamed of the testimony of our Lord, nor of me his prisoner: but be thou partaker of the afflictions of the gospel according to the power of God;
    (9) Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,


    He saves us….He calls us….and His testimony is the good news that death has been abolished (that is, rendered idle) in Him who died for us and was raised to life so that we might have His life today. He has brought life and immortality (undecaying of the mortal body) to light through the good news which is for us in this earth. As He is alive in Heaven, we shall be made alive as He gives His flesh for the life of this world.

    (10) But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel:
    (11) Whereunto I am appointed a preacher, and an apostle, and a teacher of the Gentiles.
    (12) For the which cause I also suffer these things: nevertheless I am not ashamed: for I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that he is able to keep that which I have committed unto him against that day.


    He begets us AGAIN unto a LIVING HOPE by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead. Carnal men have been preaching a DYING hope. According to them, we have to “die and go to heaven” when Jesus is indeed ALIVE TODAY. He was dead but is truly alive. He ALREADY DIED for us. If Jesus is truly alive today, then we shall be also living His everlasting life today in this earth. As He is alive, we are to be alive….and be His many living infallible proofs to this dark and dying world that Jesus is truly alive now and forevermore.

    1 Peter 1:3-7 KJV
    (3) Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

    We are to inherit His life as Jesus is incorruptible and undefiled and does not fade away. Jesus is in Heaven and His heavenly life is reserved for us today in this earth.

    (4) To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,
    (5) Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.


    Many will be persecuted for the faith in this appearing life of Jesus in our mortal flesh. But those who shall pass the trial of our faith in the “fire” of their persecutions shall be found unto praise and honor and glory at the manifestation of Jesus Christ whose life shall appear in our mortal flesh.

    (6) Wherein ye greatly rejoice, though now for a season, if need be, ye are in heaviness through manifold temptations:
    (7) That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ:


    But this is a “hard saying” for the unbelievers who will not be able receive His testimony.

    John 6:57-61 KJV
    (57) As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me.
    (58) This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever.
    (59) These things said he in the synagogue, as he taught in Capernaum.
    (60) Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, This is an hard saying; who can hear it?
    (61) When Jesus knew in himself that his disciples murmured at it, he said unto them, Doth this offend you?


    Yet, he that does receive His testimony has set to his seal that God is true. He that believes on the Son who comes to give us an understanding (the Bread from Heaven) by speaking the words of God has everlasting life…..now in this earth. It is a now thing and we rejoice to hear His voice.

    John 3:29-36 KJV
    (29) He that hath the bride is the bridegroom: but the friend of the bridegroom, which standeth and heareth him, rejoiceth greatly because of the bridegroom's voice: this my joy therefore is fulfilled.
    (30) He must increase, but I must decrease.
    (31) He that cometh from above is above all: he that is of the earth is earthly, and speaketh of the earth: he that cometh from heaven is above all.
    (32) And what he hath seen and heard, that he testifieth; and no man receiveth his testimony.
    (33) He that hath received his testimony hath set to his seal that God is tru
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    (34) For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him.
    (35) The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand.
    (36) He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
     
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    orbiter Active Member

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    Let God be true and EVERY man a liar.

    Romans 3:4 KJV
    (4) God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.

    The word of men is not truth as they preach without knowledge for money’s sake and are minding earthly things: what to eat, what to drink, what to wear. This preaching for earthly things (only serving their own belly) darkens their understanding of the Scriptures that they privately interpret with their own “wisdom”.

    But the Lord sends His messengers out to speak His words that are true and faithful. They hear the Spirit and speak what they hear Him saying. And those who will hear and receive the Word of God spoken in truth will know that these words are true. They will believe in what they hear.

    1 Thessalonians 2:13 KJV
    (13) For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe.

    If ANY man will DO His will, that man shall know of the doctrine whether it be of God.

    John 7:14-20 KJV
    (14) Now about the midst of the feast Jesus went up into the temple, and taught.
    (15) And the Jews marvelled, saying, How knoweth this man letters, having never learned?
    (16) Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.
    (17) If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.


    Those who will go about seeking to “kill the messenger” by speaking malicious words against those sent by Him are seeking their own glory and not the glory from God. They seek their own “vain glory”…wanting to be seen as “wise”.

    (18) He that speaketh of himself seeketh his own glory: but he that seeketh his glory that sent him, the same is true, and no unrighteousness is in him.
    (19) Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law? Why go ye about to kill me?
    (20) The people answered and said, Thou hast a devil: who goeth about to kill thee?


    We have a sure word of prophecy and we are to take heed on how we hear.

    The Light shall shine within our very own once darkened hearts when we hear His voice as He opens up the Scriptures to our hearing ears. We shall know that this is His Son speaking to us for the witness of God about His Son is within our own hearts….the “morning star” arising in our own hearts is God’s evidence that this is His Son speaking and we are to “hear Him”.

    2 Peter 1:17-21 KJV
    (17) For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
    (18) And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount.


    He is the “bright and morning star” arising within our very own hearts and we are to hear Him. We receive the witness of men who speak as they are moved by the Holy Spirit but the witness of God within our own hearts is greater.

    (19) We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:

    (20) Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
    (21) For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

     
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