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More proof the bible is correct and modern science is a lie.

Discussion in 'Physical & Life Sciences' started by JacobLaw, Apr 6, 2014.

  1. Yes Always

  2. Yes Sometimes

  3. No Never

  4. No the bible is not literial.

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  1. Loudmouth

    Loudmouth Contributor

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    The two words that kill any geocentrist argument:

    Stellar Parallax
     
  2. Michael

    Michael Contributor

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    You say that as though you have a lot of personal experience debating geocentists. Are they really that prevalent on the internet?
     
  3. PsychoSarah

    PsychoSarah Chaotic Neutral

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    You would be amazed :doh:
     
  4. Michael

    Michael Contributor

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    More like appalled. :(
     
  5. PsychoSarah

    PsychoSarah Chaotic Neutral

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    Stupidity is a pandemic.
     
  6. Michael

    Michael Contributor

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    Apparently. :)
     
  7. Subduction Zone

    Subduction Zone Regular Member

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    Don't underestimate the ability of zealots to ignore evidence.

    How long have you been debating creationists? It is only a matter of degree. Even AV has hinted that he could accept geocentrism, but for some reason the draws the line at a Flat Earth.
     
  8. pgp_protector

    pgp_protector Noted strange person

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  9. AV1611VET

    AV1611VET SCIENCE CAN TAKE A HIKE Supporter

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    Why, then, do you guys bring it up?

    Some of you even look for geocentrist posters here.
     
  10. Strathos

    Strathos No one important

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    Well they are here. The OP is one.
     
  11. RealityCheck

    RealityCheck Senior Veteran

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    Not "prevalent" but they're out there. They're up there with the small groups that believe in Nemesis, the NASA moon landing conspiracy, dad, etc.

    Sometimes it's hard to tell if they're genuine or just really good fakes. Take this one, for example:

    http://galileowaswrong.com/geocentrism-101/

    Hard to say if this is serious, or just a flashy attempt to bilk money from ignorant home-schoolers.
     
  12. Armoured

    Armoured So is America great again yet? Supporter

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    Nemesis?
     
  13. JacobLaw

    JacobLaw Regular Member

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    STELLAR PARALLAX-ABERRATION IS GEOCENTRIC

    Prof. James Hanson

    It will be noted that both the Copernican and geocentric models give the same form for the net angular deflection of starlight from the line of sight,
    ϕ
    = constant
    1
    sin
    at
    + constant
    2
    cos
    at
    . The source, sink, and vortex strengths can be selected so that the geo-centric coefficients give the same numerical value as the Copernican. In the geocentric model there is a single deflection dependent upon how the space intervening between the earth and the star transmit the star-light. And since the geocentric coefficient equivalent to the Copernican aberration term contains the stellar distance, it would suggest the stellar firmament to be a shell of no great distance. Furthermore, this term is shown to be a property of space as required by Airy’s failure.

    geocentric theory
     
  14. JacobLaw

    JacobLaw Regular Member

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    The Bible believers of Copernicus' day stood in opposition to his heresy:

    "There was mention of a certain new *astrologer* [Copernicus] who wanted to prove the earth moves and not the sky, the sun, or the moon. This would be as if somebody were riding on a cart and imagined he was standing still while the earth and trees were moving. ... This is what the fellow does who wishes to turn the whole of *astronomy* upside down. I believe the Holy Scriptures, for Joshua commanded the sun to stand still and not the earth." - Martin Luther

    "The psalmist clearly affirm the sun to move. Ps 93:1." Philipp Melanchthon

    "Those who assert the earth moves are motivated by a spirit of bitterness, contradiction, and faultfinding; possessed by the devil, they aimed to pervert the order of nature." "The heavens revolve daily (Ps 93:1 commentary) ... we experience no concussion." - John Calvin
     
  15. JacobLaw

    JacobLaw Regular Member

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    WHY DO YOU REJECT GEOCENTRICITY?

    Scripture: It's certainly not because of the scripture. The Bible is so obviously worded geocentrically that helio-heads have to become allegorical and appeal to nonexistent figures of speech, language of "perspective", God accommodating us by speaking in "our language" (AKA: lying), and other tricks to avoid taking the words for what they actually SAY. Things like "the sun arose", "the sun stood still", the moon stayed", the sun went backward", "the moon stood still", the sun moves in "circuits", and so forth.

    If God wanted to convey geocentricity, He could not have done so more clearly. OTOH, if God wanted to convey heliocentrism, scripture easily could have said, "the earth stopped spinning", the earth turned backwards", or the earth moved in "circuits".

    GEOCENTRICITY
     
  16. Heissonear

    Heissonear Geochemist and Stratigrapher Supporter

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    :thumbsup:

    Some people arrive at conclusions too soon, without having the additional information needed to make broad claims, and present as fact in what people "believe". AV has pegged this problem many walk by.

    .
     
  17. lesliedellow

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    Because the astronauts didn't bump into the Sun on their way to the Moon.

    I know creationists are not famed for their brain power, but even so.
     
  18. Loudmouth

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    I debated with a user on these forums who was a serious geocentrist. Stellar parallax is what changed their mind once and for all.
     
  19. AV1611VET

    AV1611VET SCIENCE CAN TAKE A HIKE Supporter

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    Was it RichardT?

    I curious what made him change his icon.
     
  20. HitchSlap

    HitchSlap Saved by science

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    As in every religion ever devised since the dawn of time?