More proof the bible is correct and modern science is a lie.

[JacobLaw]

FOUCAULT ECLIPSE

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Decrypting the Eclipse - NASA Science

Nobel prize winner Maurice Allais had to go and throw another monkey wrench in the spokes of the heliocentric bicycle (were the tires spinning, or was the earth turning under the tires?). Allais performed a marathon 30 day Foucault Pendulum experiment in 1954. During the experiment an eclipse occurred. Surprisingly, the pendulum changed angles by a significant 13.5 degrees! This suggests something in space was affecting the pendulum, not the motion of the earth.

Man, you just can't trust those Frenchmen for anything!

Not to be deterred, the helioheads thought to try again, and again. Maybe the Allais observation was just some freak occurrence. No way could it happen again. So they tried again in 1954, and again in 1959, and 1965, and 1961, and 1970, and 1971, and 1995:

Solar eclipse affects a pendulum -- again!

Noooooooooo! Same result almost every time (about a 15 degree angle)! There were only three experiments that got a null result, at least seven got positive results.

{{ Such observations are naturally hard to accept }}


Ha! No they aren't. Not if you believe your Bible (King James).

 

[pgp_protector]

I don't recall reading about The Allais Effect in the Bible.

 

[AV1611VET]

I voted YES ALWAYS.

 

[lesliedellow]

It hasn't thrown a spanner in the works of heliocentism, when even creationists have trouble taking geocentrism seriously. It does leave scientists with a problem to solve, but then, that is how science works - finding theories to match the data, and then testing them with experiment.

 

[Nithavela]

[linking to memegenerator.net was causing malware alerts]

 

[elephunky]

How exactly is modern science a lie?

 

[Lord Emsworth]

Not to be deterred, the helioheads

What is a heliohead? Is all this about geocentrism?

 

[Strathos]

I voted YES ALWAYS.

Even regarding heliocentrism?

 

[AV1611VET]

Even regarding heliocentrism?

Yes -- I believe the Bible over heliocentrism.

 

[PsychoSarah]

Yes -- I believe the Bible over heliocentrism.

-_- it is one thing to have doubts about evolution, which is hard to observe, but the earth orbiting the sun is a blatant fact at this point in human history.

 

[lesliedellow]

Yes -- I believe the Bible over heliocentrism.

That's odd, you didn't the last time he came up with this nonsense.

 

[Nithavela]

I guess what AV means is that the Bible (and/or his interpretation of it) is the ultimate authority in anything scientific, and heliocentrism, or geocentrism, or Jupitercentrism or whatever "can take a hike" in comparision.

Which celestial model does the bible support in your view, AV?

 

[lesliedellow]

I guess what AV means is that the Bible (and/or his interpretation of it) is the ultimate authority in anything scientific, and heliocentrism, or geocentrism, or Jupitercentrism or whatever "can take a hike" in comparision.

The last time JacobLaw posted this nonsense, AV argued against him. Geocentrism is too much even for most creationists - which is really saying something.

 

[Subduction Zone]

The last time JacobLaw posted this nonsense, AV argued against him. Geocentrism is too much even for most creationists - which is really saying something.

Late yesterday, or earlier today, I suggested that AV check out the Flat Earth society since the only difference between them and him is a mater of degree of how much they believe their Bibles. It seems he is making the slow move to that belief. Of course you can't make it all in one go. Changing from heliocentrist to geocentrist is the first logical step to becoming a Flat Earther.

 

[mafwons]

Is this thread a joke? Does someone believe that the Bible indicates Earth in center of solar system or flat earth?

 

[Nithavela]

Is this thread a joke? Does someone believe that the Bible indicates Earth in center of solar system or flat earth?

You would be amazed what some people believe the bible to indicate.

For example that donkeys can talk.

You should read it one of these days.

 

[Armoured]

-_- it is one thing to have doubts about evolution, which is hard to observe, but the earth orbiting the sun is a blatant fact at this point in human history.

Much as I hate to be seen to be disagreeing with you and favouring AV... Technically... heliocentrism isn't a fact, it is "merely" a theory.

Like evolution, a theory that all available evidence supports, but a theory nonetheless.

Like Wittgenstein, you'll never prove to me there isn't a rhinoceros in the room. It's not very likely there is, but that's the most you can say.

 

[lesliedellow]

Is this thread a joke? Does someone believe that the Bible indicates Earth in center of solar system or flat earth?

I am afraid it is no joke:

New statistic! 20% of Americans think the universe is geocentric!!

Truly incredible.

 

[SkyWriting]

I am afraid it is no joke:

New statistic! 20% of Americans think the universe is geocentric!!

Truly incredible.

Perhaps our galaxy is the center.
Or maybe our group of galaxies is the center point of the cosmos.
Or maybe our Cosmos is the center point of a larger spiral.
Or maybe we are the only life there is. Most likely the case.

 

[AV1611VET]

Which celestial model does the bible support in your view, AV?

None.

And as an aside, the earth was created before the sun.

Back to our point though, the language of the Bible, when It describes observing the cosmos is the same language that we use today -- geocentric.

We speak of the sun rising and the sun setting, the sun coming up and the sun going down, because that is the simplest and fastest way to communicate: using the point of the observer as the reference point.

Thus the Bible uses geocentric language, but It does not teach geocentrism.