Psa 6:4 Return,
O LORD, deliver my soul: oh save me for thy mercies' sake.
Psa 6:5 For in death there is no remembrance of thee: in the grave who shall give thee thanks?
He is talking to God here! He is saying that in death you have no remembrance of God!!---But you think there will be memories of other things?!
Psa 88:9 Mine eye mourneth by reason of affliction: LORD, I have called daily upon thee, I have stretched out my hands unto thee.
Psa 88:10 Wilt thou shew wonders to the dead? shall the dead arise and praise thee? Selah.
Psa 88:11 Shall thy lovingkindness be declared in the grave? or thy faithfulness in destruction?
Psa 88:12 Shall thy wonders be known in the dark? and thy righteousness in the land of forgetfulness?
Psa 88:13 But unto thee have I cried, O LORD; and in the morning shall my prayer prevent thee.
Psa 88:14 LORD, why castest thou off my soul? why hidest thou thy face from me?
The answer is obviously
NO! David is mourning, he is sorrowful, "Shall thy wonders be known in the dark? and thy righteousness in the land of forgetfulness?"---
NO! There is nothing in death.
Does not in any way say that we die a spiritual death. The soul that sinneth, it shall die. Does not say it shall spend eternity out of my presence--it says die.
He says niothiing about those that keep His commandments---he asks if God's loving kindness will be declared in the grave---it is obviously
NO!
It says nothing about David knowing he spends eternity out of God's presence---nothing about it. He knows one thing---his sins were forgiven. covered by the blood of sacrifice as was done then. Nothing anywhere in the OT or the NT about being outside the presence of God. When you're sins are forgiven, they are forgiven--
Psa_32:1 A Psalm of David, Maschil. Blessed is he whose transgression is forgiven, whose sin is covered.
Psa_85:2 Thou hast forgiven the iniquity of thy people, thou hast covered all their sin. Selah.
Psa 103:12 As far as the east is from the west, so far hath he removed our transgressions from us.
Isa_43:25 I, even I, am he that blotteth out thy transgressions for mine own sake, and will not remember thy sins.
When God forgives---He will not remember your sins!! There is no record of the sins of the forgiven.
The dead praise not the Lord---period. Not the spiritually dead--not any other kind of dead---the dead praise not the Lord. But we will praise the Lord, those that are alive and when we are resurrected. Even the saved do not praise in the grave, only after we are resurrected.
Nope---none of your arguments work at all and are inaccurate to the rendering of the scriptures. You, after all your time in the reading of His word, do not recognize the way that the Jews wrote when they ask a question. Even today, they still do that and even every comedian makes fun of the Jewish way of asking questions when the answer is an obvious NO!---
“I see you got a ‘D’ in physics.”
“Who am I, Einstein?!”
“What? Passing isn’t enough for you?”
"And my ‘A’ in Viking Lit means bupkes?”
“From physics I’ll make a living? “
Leo Rosten, in his seminal
The Joys of Yiddish not only confirmed this syntax as a specifically Jewish trait, but viewed “the question” as one way to distinguish between Jew and Gentile! Questioning, deriving from Talmudic debate imbues us with the unusual tradition of saying: “I believe! But
nu, if I ask You’ll ‘show me?’” But more, through skepticism we analyzed the often treacherous world around us, and learned that an
answer may be dangerous, misleading, obvious, unknown, or unnecessary.
Morris and Izzy were sitting over tuna salad discussing the meaning of the cosmos. “Life,” said Morris, “is life a bowl of tuna fish.”
Izzy considered, “So, why is life like a bowl of tuna fish?”
“How should I know? What am I, a philosopher?”
Jews Love Questions
JS's big, big fail, was not knowing the Jewish way of speaking. How they saw things as compared to modern Gentiles. He read the KJV and that is how his books read. That was the first thing I noticed about his books.
