More hubris justly rewarded: Herman Cain hospitalized 11 days after Trump rally (and his tweet)

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The twitter link is meaningless.

Who is this "someone", and what is the reason she asked them to remove their masks (if she did)?

The Twitter link is a video of a Trump conference. The tweet above it has his mocking Biden. There are users who live tweet the press conferences.


As far as the rest, to modify an old saying: you can lead a horse to WISDOM but you can't make him THINK.

As it is written, “God gave them a spirit of stupor, eyes that would not see and ears that would not hear, down to this very day.”
 
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It doesn't make sense because you have it bass ackwards.
People attending Trump rallies, not wearing masks, are showing their support for Trump in doing so. That's exactly what Cain, a staunch Trump supporter, was referencing when he said, "Masks will not be mandatory for the event, which will be attended by President Trump, “PEOPLE ARE FED UP!”
The event was a celebration of the non-mask wearing Trump support. After all, it was a Trump rally.
Dude, you're playing some 4D political chess. I think it's easier to just express it as "the friend of my enemy is my enemy". People want to hate on Cain because they hate Trump, even though he himself did nothing wrong. Like how people got sent to Siberian gulags just because they supported Trotsky. I do get it. It disgusts me, but I get it.
 
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The Twitter link is a video of a Trump conference. The tweet above it has his mocking Biden. There are users who live tweet the press conferences.


As far as the rest, to modify an old saying: you can lead a horse to WISDOM but you can't make him THINK.

As it is written, “God gave them a spirit of stupor, eyes that would not see and ears that would not hear, down to this very day.”
If you post links to vague conspiracy type stuff, and someone asks you for details you can't provide, it's probably better to just not respond rather than quoting irrelevant adages and scripture.
 
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Dude, you're playing some 4D political chess. I think it's easier to just express it as "the friend of my enemy is my enemy". People want to hate on Cain because they hate Trump, even though he himself did nothing wrong. Like how people got sent to Siberian gulags just because they supported Trotsky. I do get it. It disgusts me, but I get it.
this is more like Go fish.
It's this simple:
Not wearing a mask is support for Trump and people are fed up of any mask wearing requirements.

The disgusting part is making it a political statement instead of a matter of public health.
 
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this is more like Go fish.
It's this simple:
Not wearing a mask is support for Trump and people are fed up of any mask wearing requirements.

The disgusting part is making it a political statement instead of a matter of public health.
I'm a simple man, I know simple when I see it. There's nothing simple about what you said. Rather than derailing, please just go back to page 1 and answer my original question.
 
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If you post links to vague conspiracy type stuff, and someone asks you for details you can't provide, it's probably better to just not respond rather than quoting irrelevant adages and scripture.

If you had read the link or the source the link referred to you would have your answer.

I'll quote the answer and a lil more to show how stupid a move it was to them to remove the masks:

The vice president’s office declined to tell The Intercept who the woman was, but Brianne Pfannenstiel of the Register reported later that a Trump administration official said the woman was “an advance staffer,” who had been dispatched from Washington to manage set-up for the event.

Two of those executives, Ken Sullivan of Smithfield Foods and Noel White of Tyson Foods, run meatpacking plants where hundreds of workers have contracted Covid-19, including a Tyson plant in Waterloo, Iowa where more than a third of the workforce — 1,031 people — has tested positive and at least three workers have died. The Tyson plant in Waterloo was reopened on Thursday following an executive order from President Donald Trump that designated the meat supply “critical infrastructure.”

The strange request to the executives to remove their masks underscored just how committed the White House is to ignoring federal health advice intended to slow the spread of the pandemic coronavirus.

Although the vice president appeared to follow social distancing guidelines during the discussion, he did not wear a mask, nor did any of the officials who accompanied him on Air Force Two from Washington: Agriculture Secretary Sonny Perdue and Iowa’s two Republican senators, Chuck Grassley and Joni Ernst. The Des Moines Register reported that, before the event, “staffers with gloves and masks took the temperatures of people who entered the building one at a time.” Video of the hall showed that very few of the people in the audience were wearing masks.

Unmasked in Iowa: CEOs Who Came to Meet Pence in Masks Were Asked to Remove Them
 
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If you had read the link or the source the link referred to you would have your answer.
No, I read them and there was no answer.
I'll quote the answer and a lil more to show how stupid a move it was to them to remove the masks:

The vice president’s office declined to tell The Intercept who the woman was, but Brianne Pfannenstiel of the Register reported later that a Trump administration official said the woman was “an advance staffer,” who had been dispatched from Washington to manage set-up for the event.

Two of those executives, Ken Sullivan of Smithfield Foods and Noel White of Tyson Foods, run meatpacking plants where hundreds of workers have contracted Covid-19, including a Tyson plant in Waterloo, Iowa where more than a third of the workforce — 1,031 people — has tested positive and at least three workers have died. The Tyson plant in Waterloo was reopened on Thursday following an executive order from President Donald Trump that designated the meat supply “critical infrastructure.”

The strange request to the executives to remove their masks underscored just how committed the White House is to ignoring federal health advice intended to slow the spread of the pandemic coronavirus.

Although the vice president appeared to follow social distancing guidelines during the discussion, he did not wear a mask, nor did any of the officials who accompanied him on Air Force Two from Washington: Agriculture Secretary Sonny Perdue and Iowa’s two Republican senators, Chuck Grassley and Joni Ernst. The Des Moines Register reported that, before the event, “staffers with gloves and masks took the temperatures of people who entered the building one at a time.” Video of the hall showed that very few of the people in the audience were wearing masks.

Unmasked in Iowa: CEOs Who Came to Meet Pence in Masks Were Asked to Remove Them
So what does this have to do with Cain announcing the true fact that masks are not mandatory at a particular rally?
 
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Former GOP presidential candidate Herman Cain hospitalized with Covid-19

“Masks will not be mandatory for the event, which will be attended by President Trump,” Cain tweeted. “PEOPLE ARE FED UP!”

"Last month, Cain attended Trump’s much-hyped rally in Tulsa, Oklahoma, the kickoff event for the president’s reelection bid after the coronavirus pandemic forced him off the campaign trail for months.

Critics, including local public health officials, had urged Trump to postpone the rally, warning that hosting a large gathering of people could spread the disease.

Cain posted a photograph of himself at the June 20 rally sitting in close proximity to other attendees, none of whom appeared to be wearing masks, as many health officials currently advise."


I wonder how his "Freedom" is doing while confined to a hospital? Why is he listening to so-called "experts" (Soros/Gates-funded liars) at the hospital who don't know anything other than fake news? He should just leave. Or maybe he's not fed up with the hospital yet? Or maybe he just doesn't care about freedom all that much and enjoys being confined? Hard to tell, he hasn't said anything yet...
So, you think he got Covid because he didn't cover his mouth with a piece of cloth? Lol.
 
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I'm a simple man, I know simple when I see it. There's nothing simple about what you said. Rather than derailing, please just go back to page 1 and answer my original question.

I posted Caine's tweet that is under discussion already:

https://twitter.com/THEHermanCain/status/1278444266881273856?s=20

I don't know how familiar you are with Twitter, but when you share a link it generates a picture and caption for the link, usually the title of the article, and you can add your own commentary.

The link he shared was: South Dakota Governor: 'We Will Not Be Social Distancing' at Big Mt. Rushmore Independence Day Event

His personal commentary was:
Masks will not be mandatory for the event, which will be attended by President Trump. PEOPLE ARE FED UP!

Now what does "People are fed up" refer to? Trump? South Dakota? The event? The only logical conclusion is he was referring to mandatory mask wearing.

I don't wish Covid on anyone. At his age, survival is not guaranteed and the complications that people who survive are reporting are not very appealing. I don't know if he has underlying medical factors or not, however it's safe to assume that if he wasn't taking mask precautions in a crowded room of strangers, he's not taking them on a daily basis. If he isn't doing what is needed to protect himself, he isn't protecting his wife, friends or other loved ones, either. He is a well known person with a platform, and he used his to discourage folks from masking up.

His symptoms came on so quickly, either he already had it at the time the rally took place and was potentially infecting those around him, or his body is succumbing faster than the two week incubation period, which doesn't bode well.

Regardless, I wish a fast and full recovery to him.
 
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No, I read them and there was no answer.

So what does this have to do with Cain announcing the true fact that masks are not mandatory at a particular rally?

Nothing. This was in response to your comment saying YOU hadn't seen or heard of conservatives discouraging masks. There are lots of things that exist in this world I have neither heard of nor seen. Generally, that's not a good barometer as to whether or not it does.
 
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So, you think he got Covid because he didn't cover his mouth with a piece of cloth? Lol.

No, it would be because someone with the virus didn't cover his or her mouth with a piece of cloth.
 
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So, you think he got Covid because he didn't cover his mouth with a piece of cloth? Lol.
So you think this thread is about how or why he got Covid? Lol.
 
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I wonder if when COVID invades the circle of family closest to Trump if he will take it seriously.
Even if he did, what tools does he have to work with? Maybe if the virus were slowed by bankrupting Casinos with daddy's money he might be able to do something about it. But since that's not the case, he's really doesn't have the skills necessary to do anything about it even if he cared.
 
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Even if he did, what tools does he have to work with?
Well, he does have a seemingly bottomless bank roll and would take advantage of the care that provides - unlike the majority of the US population.
 
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Well, he does have a seemingly bottomless bank roll and would take advantage of the care that provides - unlike the majority of the US population.
Oh, no doubt about him working to further his personal interests. I was responding to the idea of him suddenly showing national leadership, which I thought was pretty far-fetched given his demonstrated incompetence in that area.
 
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Oh, no doubt about him working to further his personal interests. I was responding to the idea of him suddenly showing national leadership, which I thought was pretty far-fetched given his demonstrated incompetence in that area.
Very much agreed. I was referencing/including the previous question. :)
 
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He is a well known person with a platform, and he used his to discourage folks from masking up.
Except that he didn't. But people from the other side of the aisle are always saying they're hearing "dog whistles" and "code words" from Republicans. People will hear what they want to hear, I guess.
Nothing. This was in response to your comment saying YOU hadn't seen or heard of conservatives discouraging masks. There are lots of things that exist in this world I have neither heard of nor seen. Generally, that's not a good barometer as to whether or not it does.
I still haven't seen or heard that.
 
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Except that he didn't. But people from the other side of the aisle are always saying they're hearing "dog whistles" and "code words" from Republicans. People will hear what they want to hear, I guess.
None are so deaf as those who will not hear.
 
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