Originally posted by VeraciousMaven
Nothing you have said has done anything but back my claim up.
How so?
I don't see how that is objective. The morals are still being definied for the set group that it works for. And if we all evoloved these morals to be inbred into our genetics as if it were instince, then why is there so much immorality?
Perhaps we are still evolving. Antelopes evolved to escape lions, right? But some antelopes are still sometimes caught by lions. The complexity of the world also may confuse man's inate instincts.
Rape is an advantage to population.
No it isn't, at least not in our species. Go read the book "Sperm Wars" and get back to me when you've learned about the birds and the bees.
You just contradicted yourself. ...I'm confused.
Oops! That was a typo -- I left something you wrote in the post I should have deleted. I corrected my post now.
If it's in our instinct at all, then people would be very hesitant indeed to lie or steal ... but this isn't the case at all.
I think you'll find that very few people lie or steal unless they percieve this is necessary for their survival. I don't know about your Church, but mine teaches that there is nothing wrong with stealing food or clothing or shelter when it is needed and ones lacks legitimate means to obtain them. People are basically good, it's mostly an issue of their perceptions being clouded about what is right and what is wrong and what they must do to survive which causes them to sin. The imbalance in their perceptions is brought about by elements of civilization which their instincts have difficulty dealing with because civilization is such a new thing. Money for example, causes all sorts of confusion.
Marriage goes against the instinct to survive? I don't see how.
Also seeing someone else in trouble, and helping them despite the fact that you may die as well.
As I already explained, it is always better for the species that its member help eachother. So that works in favor of the genome, not against it.
If man made all moral laws, then why are moral laws impossible to follow?
Moral laws aren't impossible to follow. As I said, people's instincts are just confused so it is difficult for them to figure out right from wrong in the current situation. That's where, I concede, God's help comes in handy, like in Jesus explaining what is right and what is wrong, etc. Btu that is a different argument.