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Mom beats four year old daughter ...

Discussion in 'Parenting' started by LilyLamb, Sep 20, 2002.

  1. Stormy

    Stormy Senior Contributor

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    She was upset because she got herself into trouble. If she had not been caught she would have not been upset.
    IMO The only mistake she truly thinks she made was not to look for security cameras. She did look around to see if anyone was watching. She knew what she was planning to do was wrong!!

    Believe me when you are placed in protective custody... you can sleep.


    If she is unable to admit that she was wrong and needs help then she is far from ready to take back her child. The next beating could be the last.
     
  2. OntheRock

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    I finaly saw the full video. It seemed like she was going wild on that child.

    The majority here seems to agree that this woman needs to be crucified. I disagree with this. I think the woman needs help and the child needs to stay with the mother. We should not be so quick to judge and condemn. What do we even know about this woman? She may lead a good honest life.

    My main point is that I think mercy is in order here. I was beat as a child and I'm ok now. I'm sure glad that no one came in and split up my family.
     
  3. Kookaburra

    Kookaburra searching for The Hidden Country

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    Mercy, yes.
    Supervision, yes. For the mother.
    I think it would be wrong to make a child return to a mother that abuses him/her, but I think I'll stay mostly neutral, because the mother must love the child, because all mothers do--even surrogate mothers, another tough issue, love the children that come from their womb. It's something that happens
    I think the mother needs counselling, as well as the daughter, and they both need to stick together through the rough times.
    But not returning something to a mall is no reason to beat a defenseless child up.
     
  4. camaro540

    camaro540 Regular Member

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    Mat 18:10
    Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones; for I say unto you, That
    in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven.

    Mat 19:14
    But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me:
    for of such is the kingdom of heaven.
     
  5. IslandBreeze

    IslandBreeze Caribbean Queen

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    Crucified? No. I think she needs to be beat ONE TIME by someone twice her size the way she beat on her daughter, and I guarantee she'll think twice before she ever does it again.
     
  6. Stormy

    Stormy Senior Contributor

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    She probably already has been beaten many times by someone twice her size the same way she beat her daughter.

    The abused, many times, become the abuser.

    She needs help. Doctors will be better able to assess the situation better than police officers.
     
  7. Stormy

    Stormy Senior Contributor

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    This is not a part of the story. Her life style is strange. She is with a band of travelers. People who have no home and spend their life on the roads.
     
  8. KeepTheFaith15

    KeepTheFaith15 Thats Me whats can i say?

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    The little kid shouldnt return to the mother until she has gotten help for a looong time and when the people are POSITIVE that she has changed and will not beat her daughter, come on if she leads a good honest life she wouldnt have beat the crude out of her kid, jesus wouldnt do it! so she shouldnt either...being abused as a kid makes you feel worthless and people could grow up with so many sideeffects of that abuse, it hurts me to even think about that little girl getting beat up by her own mother i can see the child doing something wrong and a little swat on the knee or bottom but not baam baam baam in the head..thats just wrong. the mother needs serious help maybe she could get a christian counseler that can explain how the home is supposed to be brought up in love, and with alot of care...whats the world coming too. it's so sad, i thank god i have a great family!
     
  9. Stormy

    Stormy Senior Contributor

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    This is not always true. I could always sense a LOVE that would not allow my spirit to be harmed. I believe I knew Jesus, before I knew his name. For I always knew that what the abusers were doing... depleted their worth... not my own.

    I pray the little girl has been given this same protection.
     
  10. Lizzi4Christ

    Lizzi4Christ I'm worth waiting for.

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    How old was the little girl?

    I know that family is a very important thing, but also is the mental and emotional health of the child. Just one time can have devistating effects on the rest of her life. So while having the family together is good, What are the effects of this girl living with her mother? What are the effects of her not being with her? For my mom, she tells me that she was abused as a child and she's been a rotten mother. She has. Is something like that going to happen to this little girl?
     
  11. Stormy

    Stormy Senior Contributor

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    She is four.
     
  12. Gerry

    Gerry Jesus Paid It All

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    I don't know if I am three times her size, but I volunteer.

     
  13. Gerry

    Gerry Jesus Paid It All

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    No. This woman needs to be returned to her maker to be dealt with justly.
     
  14. Gerry

    Gerry Jesus Paid It All

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    Mistake??? No she committed a crime. Three years would nevr be enough. And th sad thing is she will likely get off altogether and the girl will remain with the mother.

    I think she should have both hands amputated. Maybe then she would not hit her with her fists again.


     
  15. IslandBreeze

    IslandBreeze Caribbean Queen

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    I'm with Gerry on this one. As far as I'm concerned, counseling and psychotherapy is a crock. Psychiatrists seem to have the answer to everything. Sometimes people need to be dealt with, and not talked to. By going through counseling, she'll learn that, as an abused person, she has a crutch to lean on and bring up an excuse for the rest of her pitiful life. She will ALWAYS use the "abused victim" scam for her poor behavior. Take her out behind the barn.
     
  16. LilyLamb

    LilyLamb The Lord is My Shepherd

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    I disagree ... I know for a fact that there are too many people out there that honestly do not know how to parent ... they need to be taught that there are other/better ways to respond to a child that misbehaves ... especially if they were raised in a home where all they knew was physical punishment.

    If we can provide counseling for married couples who are struggling with adultery, porn or just not being able to communicate with each other in order to SAVE the marriage ... then we should also be providing counseling to parents in order to SAVE their families.

    There are too many children in foster care ... the answer to abuse isn't in "permanently" taking a child out of a home - but in temporarily providing a safe place while mom/dad get their act together and get the help they need to be better members of society.

    Under a new policy that came out this spring parents are given one year to get their act together - that's more than enough time to show an effort to reunite the family - if they don't then the child is immediately available for adoption. The govt. is putting a stop to long-term (more than one year) and multiple foster care (more than two foster homes). There are only so many foster families that will be able to adopt only so many children ... these families need healing and help.
     
  17. VOW

    VOW Moderator

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    Amen, Lily!



    Peace,
    ~VOW
     
  18. ZiSunka

    ZiSunka It means 'yellow dog'

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    Would anyone feel different about this woman and what she did if it hadn't been on national TV? What if she was your sister? Would you feel the same way about the situation?
     
  19. OntheRock

    OntheRock Member

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    Good point, Lambslove. This almost reminds me of the crucifiction of Jesus. The crowd yelled, "crucify him".

    This national tv coverage of this case has caused a "mob lynching" type attitude. It's because we don't know this woman personaly, and therefore we don't care if she is crucified.

    God showed us great mercy, should we not show the same? The bible supports this. Of course, there are those who will say, "but what about the child?" Children are more resilient that we give them credit for. They tend to forget alot of bad. If this was not so, then we'd be over run with adults full of emotional scars from childhood.
     
  20. ZiSunka

    ZiSunka It means 'yellow dog'

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    How does it help the child to have her mother "lynched" without mercy?

    How much brutality did YOU have to suffer to receive mercy from God?

    I tell you that mothers and fathers are found guilty of the same crime almost every day, and the usual punishment is for them to take parenting classes and anger management counselling and then to be reunited with their children. This woman is being lynched because she was on national news, not because her crime is extraordinary or beyond the extreme.

    What this little girl needs is a mommy who can control herself, not a dead, beaten, villified mother. She needs to live in restoration and love, not fear and alienation from her family.

    If you really care about the child above all else, you will see that in this case, mercy IS justice.
     
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