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Mohammed was not anticipated by prophecy and made no significant and testable prophecies that came true. He performed no miracles. His testimony contradicts those who came before him. The fruit of his life was war, conquest, slavery to false rules and the oppression of those who opposed him. He provided no absolute assurance that God would save those who believe in Him. He proposed an inadequate model of redemption. His doctrine of God is shallow focusing on his power, sovereignty, justice, creation and judgment but despite words about his mercy and love these are seriously neglected. The book he left is open to serious doubt as it contradicts more reliable texts that came before it.

For this and many other reasons Mohammed does not compare with Jesus. So why would Muslims declare Mohammed as their prophet and not Jesus!?
 
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Mohammed died and stayed buried. Jesus died and rose from the dead. Muslim don't accept the resurrection of Jesus. They see Him as just another prophet, inferior to Mohammed.

How is Mohammed a prophet if he never predicted anything and if no prophecy anticipated him. Christs resurrection is a Divine proof of the claims made about him. What such miraculous proofs exist for the life and ministry of Mohammed?
 
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I agree that Mohammad not a prophet and can not be compared with Christ. Even from the Quran Jesus is proved to be far superior. Here are three examples that Muslims can not refute.

1) Jesus birth was a virgin birth and considered miraculous by Muslims and the Quran. -Mohammad birth was normal.
2) Jesus as per the Quran spoke from the cradle as a infant. - Mohammad could not do this.
3) According to the Quran as a young boy Jesus made clay birds and breathed life into them. - Mohammad could not do this.

In fact taking point three a step further this in my view is a mirror of creation of man. Thus a foreshadowing of Jesus as God right here in the Quran and simply a prophet as Muslims claim.
 
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Mohammed was not anticipated by prophecy and made no significant and testable prophecies that came true. He performed no miracles. His testimony contradicts those who came before him. The fruit of his life was war, conquest, slavery to false rules and the oppression of those who opposed him. He provided no absolute assurance that God would save those who believe in Him. He proposed an inadequate model of redemption. His doctrine of God is shallow focusing on his power, sovereignty, justice, creation and judgment but despite words about his mercy and love these are seriously neglected. The book he left is open to serious doubt as it contradicts more reliable texts that came before it.

For this and many other reasons Mohammed does not compare with Jesus. So why would Muslims declare Mohammed as their prophet and not Jesus!?

Hi.

Is it still too difficult for you to concede that Islam condemns, absolutely, the aggressive behaviours that you described in other posts?
 
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Mohammed died and stayed buried. Jesus died and rose from the dead. Muslim don't accept the resurrection of Jesus. They see Him as just another prophet, inferior to Mohammed.

‘Say (Muhammad): “We (Muslims) believe in God and in what has been sent down to us and to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes. We believe in what has been given to Moses, Jesus, and the prophets from their Lord. We do not make a distinction between any of them. It is to Him that we devote ourselves.”’ (Al‘Imran: 84).
 
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Hi.

Is it still too difficult for you to concede that Islam condemns, absolutely, the aggressive behaviours that you described in other posts?
It is a matter of balancing the scales.
It seem to me we must accept the Muslim veiw with open arms yet midnight view is suddenly as aggressive.
I think he has simply applied the same standard you Muslim apply when dealing with Jesus and the Trinity ect.

Add value and prove his comments wrong if you do not like it.
 
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Mohammed died and stayed buried. Jesus died and rose from the dead. Muslim don't accept the resurrection of Jesus. They see Him as just another prophet, inferior to Mohammed.
Incorrect we view all Prophets as equal brothers in faith.

edit: Scrolled down and can see brother Niblo answered this already.
 
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How is Mohammed a prophet if he never predicted anything and if no prophecy anticipated him. Christs resurrection is a Divine proof of the claims made about him. What such miraculous proofs exist for the life and ministry of Mohammed?
So to be a Prophet you must make predictions and perform miracles? Nostradamus prophesied and modern day magicians are able to levitate and walk on water. I don't see how this proves anything.

In any case it's a requirement of the Torah, so here are 5 miracles of the Prophet pbuh


None but miracle number 5 can be verified.

Predictions made by the Prophet pbuh and the Qur'an: Watch from 6 mins onwards..

 
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So to be a Prophet you must make predictions and perform miracles? Nostradamus prophesied and modern day magicians are able to levitate and walk on water. I don't see how this proves anything.

In any case it's a requirement of the Torah, so here are 5 miracles of the Prophet pbuh


None but miracle number 5 can be verified.

Predictions made by the Prophet pbuh and the Qur'an: Watch from 6 mins onwards..


What utter junk. I have just proved to you in a previous thread Mohammad by Quran stand was a false prophet. Now you claim he split the moon in half. what a joke.
So offer proof.... Idle claims are meaningless with out proof.
Astrology was a big thing in the time of Mohammad, it was the compass for many people and pagan worshipers, offer one piece of evidence showing this happened.

Beside Sahih Bukhari vol 9 book 93 # 397 - say Mohammad preformed no miracles.
In addition the Quran supports this see Surah 3;138, 17:90-95, 25:7-8, 15:6-8, 13:07

so if we are to believe the Quran that it is free from error and contradictions well this once again proves the Quran is a fabricated document as Muslim contradict its teaching and do not follow it teachings.
 
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What utter junk. I have just proved to you in a previous thread Mohammad by Quran stand was a false prophet. Now you claim he split the moon in half. what a joke.
So offer proof.... Idle claims are meaningless with out proof.
Astrology was a big thing in the time of Mohammad, it was the compass for many people and pagan worshipers, offer one piece of evidence showing this happened.

Beside Sahih Bukhari vol 9 book 93 # 397 - say Mohammad preformed no miracles.
In addition the Quran supports this see Surah 3;138, 17:90-95, 25:7-8, 15:6-8, 13:07

so if we are to believe the Quran that it is free from error and contradictions well this once again proves the Quran if a fabricated document as Muslim contradict and do not follow it teachings.

In the other thread you just showed he used a popular expression, nothing more.

Hadith - Book of Virtues and Merits of the Prophet (pbuh) and his Companions - Sahih al-Bukhari - Sunnah.com - Sayings and Teachings of Prophet Muhammad (صلى الله عليه و سلم) if you read through the Hadiths you will find many more instances.

When Jesus pbuh was asked by the disbelievers, he told them no sign would be given. When he was with the believers he healed many and showed signs freely.
 
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This is not proof - this is your Hadith written 300 years after the event - I ask for proof from a historian or mariner or astrologer who show the moon spiting. Realy you do not even accept the Hadith that confirm surah 69:44-46

In the other thread you just showed he used a popular expression, nothing more.
Oh - so now surah 69:46 is not the revealed word of Allah it is just a popular saying. So popular it is mentioned only once in the Quran and in no other Arabic resource - wow -
Thus if we are to accept this claim from you then you are accepting the Quran is made up of popular saying - yes I agree it is many borrowed terms and statement from other sources - thus it is not the word of Allah and the Quran is nothing more but a compilation of sayings.
 
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This is not proof - this is your Hadith written 300 years after the event - I ask for proof from a historian or mariner or astrologer who show the moon spiting. Realy you do not even accept the Hadith that confirm surah 69:44-46
Historian in the Desert of Arabia in the 7th Century? Sorry but this wasn't Palestine teeming with Greek Philosophers and Historians.

Matthew wrote about a huge Earthquake when Jesus pbuh was allegedly crucified, well known Dead Saints got up out of their graves and walked amongst the living, the whole thing witnessed by hundreds of people, and yet no mention by any Historian. Actually none of the other Gospel writers mention it either :/

The Moon appearing to split was likely seen by people outside Arabia.

On 18 June 1178 five monks from the Canterbury Abbey reported that they saw a spectacular flash of light on the surface of the moon. The Canterbury chronicler, Fratello Gervase took the deposition of the five monks.

In his chronicles Gervase wrote:

“This year on the 18th of June, when the Moon, a slim crescent, first became visible, a marvelous phenomenon was seen by several men who were watching it. Suddenly, the upper horn of the crescent was split in two. From the mid point of the division, a flaming torch sprang up, spewing out over a considerable distance fire, hot coals and sparks. The body of the Moon which was below, writhed like a wounded snake. This happened a dozen times or more, and when the Moon returned to normal, the whole crescent took on a blackish appearance.”

18th June 1178 five non Muslims living thousands of miles away from Arabia report the following account: “This year on the 18th of June, when the Moon, a slim crescent, first became visible, a marvelous phenomenon was seen by several men who were watching it. Suddenly, the upper horn of the crescent was split in two. From the mid point of the division, a flaming torch sprang up, spewing out over a considerable distance fire, hot coals and sparks. The body of the Moon which was below, writhed like a wounded snake. This happened a dozen times or more, and when the Moon returned to normal, the whole crescent took on a blackish appearance.”

http://www.medievalarchives.com/2011/06/18/canterbury-monks-witness-creation-of-moon-crater/

NASA says these things do 'appear' to happen, and have tried to explain it as caused by meteorites. The Mysterious Case of Crater Giordano Bruno | Science Mission Directorate Whether it was an eclipse or meteorite, both the Pagans in Arabia and others have reported seeing the moon 'appear' to split.

Oh - so now surah 69:46 is not the revealed word of Allah it is just a popular saying. So popular it is mentioned only once in the Quran and in no other Arabic resource - wow -
From the discussion on the previous thread, you know it was the Prophet who used the term on his death bed. I also showed it was used in Arabic Poetry as a popular term for extreme pain or breathlessness. I showed poison causes one to feel suffocated.
 
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Historian in the Desert of Arabia in the 7th Century? Sorry but this wasn't Palestine teeming with Greek Philosophers and Historians.

Matthew wrote about a huge Earthquake when Jesus pbuh was allegedly crucified, well known Dead Saints got up out of their graves and walked amongst the living, the whole thing witnessed by hundreds of people, and yet no mention by any Historian. Actually none of the other Gospel writers mention it either :/

The Moon appearing to split was likely seen by people outside Arabia.

On 18 June 1178 five monks from the Canterbury Abbey reported that they saw a spectacular flash of light on the surface of the moon. The Canterbury chronicler, Fratello Gervase took the deposition of the five monks.

In his chronicles Gervase wrote:

“This year on the 18th of June, when the Moon, a slim crescent, first became visible, a marvelous phenomenon was seen by several men who were watching it. Suddenly, the upper horn of the crescent was split in two. From the mid point of the division, a flaming torch sprang up, spewing out over a considerable distance fire, hot coals and sparks. The body of the Moon which was below, writhed like a wounded snake. This happened a dozen times or more, and when the Moon returned to normal, the whole crescent took on a blackish appearance.”

18th June 1178 five non Muslims living thousands of miles away from Arabia report the following account: “This year on the 18th of June, when the Moon, a slim crescent, first became visible, a marvelous phenomenon was seen by several men who were watching it. Suddenly, the upper horn of the crescent was split in two. From the mid point of the division, a flaming torch sprang up, spewing out over a considerable distance fire, hot coals and sparks. The body of the Moon which was below, writhed like a wounded snake. This happened a dozen times or more, and when the Moon returned to normal, the whole crescent took on a blackish appearance.”

Canterbury monks witness creation of moon crater

NASA says these things do 'appear' to happen, and have tried to explain it as caused by meteorites. The Mysterious Case of Crater Giordano Bruno | Science Mission Directorate Whether it was an eclipse or meteorite, both the Pagans in Arabia and others have reported seeing the moon 'appear' to split.

From the discussion on the previous thread, you know it was the Prophet who used the term on his death bed. I also showed it was used in Arabic Poetry as a popular term for extreme pain or breathlessness. I showed poison causes one to feel suffocated.
Get real monks in the 12 century witnessing a meteor show on the moon is not proof Mohammad split the moon in half. who are you trying to kid. Man you make me laugh with you silly antics at times.

At best it proves that Mohammad witnessed a meteor show on the moon and claim it to be a miracle. ---- hectic this a funny.

Is this were Islam gets the phrase Taqiyya - Surah 16:106 I think. Lying to win win converts to Islam.
 
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Get real monks in the 12 century witnessing a meteor show on the moon is not proof Mohammad split the moon in half. who are you trying to kid. Man you make me laugh with you silly antics at times.

At best it proves that Mohammad witnessed a meteor show on the moon and claim it to be a miracle. ---- hectic this a funny.

Is this were Islam gets the phrase Taqiyya - Surah 16:106 I think. Lying to win win converts to Islam.
If you had read the NASA link, you would have seen there are studies done and one shows:

Giordano Bruno is a 22 km lunar impact crater on the far side of the Moon, just beyond the northeastern limb. At this location it lies in an area that can be viewed during a favorable libration, although at such times the area is viewed from the side and not much detail can be seen. It lies between the craters Harkhebi to the northwest and Szilard to the southeast.

When viewed from orbit, Giordano Bruno is at the center of a symmetrical ray system of ejecta that has a higher albedo than the surrounding surface. The ray material extends for over 150 kilometers and has not been significantly darkened by space erosion. Some of the ejecta appears to extend as far as the crater Boss, over 300 km to the northwest. The outer rim of the crater is especially bright, compared to its surroundings. To all appearances this is a young formation that was created in the relatively recent past, geologically speaking. The actual age is unknown, but is estimated to be less than 350 million years.

In 1976, the geologist Jack B. Hartung proposed that this described the formation of the crater Giordano Bruno.[3]

Modern theories predict that a (conjectural) asteroid or comet impact on the Moon would cause a plume of molten matter rising up from the surface, which is consistent with the monks' description. In addition, the location recorded fits in well with the crater's location. Additional evidence of Giordano Bruno's youth is its spectacular ray system: because micrometeorites constantly rain down, they kick up enough dust to quickly (in geological terms) erode a ray system,[4] so it can be reasonably hypothesized that Giordano Bruno was formed during the span of human history, perhaps in June 1178.

Got to love Science, less than 350 Millions years, and possible happened in 1178 or perhaps it was even in the 7th Century!

The Hadiths make mention of it and Science says it's possible.

Apparently there are legends of a Indian King who in the 7th Century happened to witness the Moon splitting too. He had his astronomers make note of the date and on meeting Arab Merchant traders set off to Mecca. Some accounts say, he passed away on his return and is buried in Oman. Here are the various accounts given:

Mysterious disappearance of Cheraman Perumal[edit]
Upon the termination of tenure of the last Cheraman perumal, he is believed to have been ventured to one of the following places:

  1. Mecca (which gave rise to the story of Tajuddeen Cheraman Perumal)
  2. Kailash (which gave rise to the story of Cheraman Perumal Nayanaar)
  3. Any Buddhist site such as Kapilavastu, Lumbini, Saranath
  4. Nalanda university, which was once headed by Buddhists from Kerala.[1]
But the lack of proof regarding his travel to any of these places made his disappearance, a mystery. There are however other tales that finalize the fate of Cheraman Perumal as:

  • Husband of Kshatriya woman and three Sudra girls, who beget the future kings of Kerala.[1]
  • King who sent message to Ceylon to bring back the carpenters, under the protection of Ezhavas.[1]
  • One who went to Mecca in 628 A.D. and converted to Islam taking the name of Abdul Rahman Samiri.[1]
  • The one most popularly told in Muslim circles, as one who witnessed splitting of moon and converted to Islam by Mohammed with the name of Thiya-uj-uddan (Crown of Faith).[1]
  • One who gave sword to Nayar chief at Calicut making him the Samootri of Calicut.[1]
  • King who gave trade rights to Syrian Christian merchants Mar Sabor and Mar Proth.[1]
  • One who gave cap to Ayikkara Yajamanan, symbolising his authority.[1]
  • King who became Saivite saint, visited Siva temples across south India along with Sundarar, then believed to have become faithful steward of Siva in Kailasa.[2]
  • Had become Buddhist.[1]

Cheraman Perumal myths - Wikipedia
Chakrawati Farmas, King of Malabar, India

16:106 Whoever disbelieves in Allah after his belief... except for one who is forced [to renounce his religion] while his heart is secure in faith. But those who [willingly] open their breasts to disbelief, upon them is wrath from Allah , and for them is a great punishment;

What does being forced to lie to save your life have to do with a forum exchange? If you're not remotely interested in hearing explanations, then simply don't ask.

2 The king of Jericho was told, “Look! Some of the Israelites have come here tonight to spy out the land.” 3 So the king of Jericho sent this message to Rahab: “Bring out the men who came to you and entered your house, because they have come to spy out the whole land.” 4 But the woman had taken the two men and hidden them. She said, “Yes, the men came to me, but I did not know where they had come from. 5 At dusk, when it was time to close the city gate, the men left. I don’t know which way they went. Go after them quickly. You may catch up with them.” 6 (But she had taken them up to the roof and hidden them under the stalks of flax she had laid out on the roof.) 7 So the men set out in pursuit of the spies on the road that leads to the fords of the Jordan, and as soon as the pursuers had gone out, the gate was shut. – Joshua 2:2-7 <<< What was the fate of Rohab when Prophet Joshua dealt with the matter?

Did you find the historical link to the zombies mentioned in Matthew's account? There must be dozens given so many people saw this remarkable miracle :/
 
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From the discussion on the previous thread, you know it was the Prophet who used the term on his death bed. I also showed it was used in Arabic Poetry as a popular term for extreme pain or breathlessness. I showed poison causes one to feel suffocated.

OK so we must do this again - you claim the term Cut or Server the aorta refered to in Surah 609-36 and the four related Hadiths is Arabic Poetry use as a populat terms that indecates extreme pain breathlessness or sufforcation.
مَرَضِهِ الَّذِي مَاتَ فِيهِ ‏ "‏ يَا عَائِشَةُ مَا أَزَالُ أَجِدُ أَلَمَ الطَّعَامِ الَّذِي أَكَلْتُ بِخَيْبَرَ، فَهَذَا أَوَانُ وَجَدْتُ انْقِطَاعَ أَبْهَرِي مِنْ ذَلِكَ السَّمِّ ‏"‏‏‏ = Breathlessness, shortness of breath, suffocation (Ab'hari)

Ok so we accept your view, Therefore
Surha 69:46 would now read suffocation and not cut the aorta.
Like wise the Hadith must also be change to fit you new interpretation - Thus Mohammad qotes on his death bed four times - he is suffocating.

Conclusion: - Mohammad is a false prophet by your interpretation of Surah 69 and the Hadiths.
Case Close - Thank You.


If you had read the NASA link, you would have seen there are studies done and one shows:
Irrelevant to your argument - all this show that the moon crates are formed by Meteor shows in space - It has nothing to do with Mohammad splitting the moon in half.

If we are to give created I agree this may of happened in the 7th centuary. If it did - well Mohammad is then proved to be a liar by using a natural cosmic event and claiming it to be a Miracle. In other word lying to win Islamic converts - wow this is a role model we should follow.

. – Joshua 2:2-7 <<< What was the fate of Rohab when Prophet Joshua dealt with the matter?
False Analogy: Comparing two things as if they are parallel when they are not really the same at all.
Was Rehab trying to convince the King to become a Jew?
What miracle did Rehab preform to deceive the King?
How many people in Jericho became converts (Jews) because of her deception.

What a silly argument. Oh a support of Yahweh lied - so Mohammad must of done miracles. Hectic you funny.

Did you find the historical link to the zombies mentioned in Matthew's account? There must be dozens given so many people saw this remarkable miracle :/

So please explain how Jesus death on the cross and the resurrection of the dead help your case that Mohammad did Miracles.
come now stay focused on offering proof - moving the goal post to try and prove the bible is false bears no witness to the topic and no proof that Mohammad did Miracles. another irrelevant and illogical statement - oh I can prove the bible is false so therefore the Quran must be true.

Secondly - to use your argument the word zombie appears nowhere in Mathew. Thus by default I assume you are simply addressing the death and resurrection of Jesus. Two historical sources come to mind - Tacitus and Josephus.
 
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OK so we must do this again - you claim the term Cut or Server the aorta refered to in Surah 609-36 and the four related Hadiths is Arabic Poetry use as a populat terms that indecates extreme pain breathlessness or sufforcation.
I gave you a proper Arabic Dictionary, gave you the poetry, and you continue to argue.

According to you, a false Prophet given the Qur'an, which predicts it will become the dominant religion of the World. That prediction was made when less than 10,000 people followed Islam against a mighty Roman Empire that stretched from Europe to the Middle East with Millions of Christian followers.

I thought false prophets gave failed prophecies :/

Irrelevant to your argument - all this show that the moon crates are formed by Meteor shows in space - It has nothing to do with Mohammad splitting the moon in half.
Science confirms this sort of thing does happen and if you're standing in the right spot, the moon will indeed 'appear' to split.

If we are to give created I agree this may of happened in the 7th centuary. If it did - well Mohammad is then proved to be a liar by using a natural cosmic event and claiming it to be a Miracle. In other word lying to win Islamic converts - wow this is a role model we should follow.
Did Muhammad pbuh claim that he would cause the moon to split? No, he was just inspired to point up in the night sky when a small group of pagans asked for a sign.

False Analogy: Comparing two things as if they are parallel when they are not really the same at all.
Was Rehab trying to convince the King to become a Jew?
What miracle did Rehab preform to deceive the King?
How many people in Jericho became converts (Jews) because of her deception.

What a silly argument. Oh a support of Yahweh lied - so Mohammad must of done miracles. Hectic you funny.
You're getting ahead of yourself. The verse in the Qur'an says you may renounce your religion if forced to. The Bible shows you may lie to save a life. I see a clear parallel.

So please explain how Jesus death on the cross and the resurrection of the dead help your case that Mohammad did Miracles.
It doesn't but does show Christians demand proof when their own text offers zero evidence.


come now stay focused on offering proof - moving the goal post to try and prove the bible is false bears no witness to the topic and no proof that Mohammad did Miracles. another irrelevant and illogical statement - oh I can prove the bible is false so therefore the Quran must be true.
Qur'an is true because it could only have come from GOD. I can show you how, but first you have to agree on the following:

It was revealed over 23 years, with a verse here(1), some verses there all dealing with the situation on the ground. The illiterate(2) Arab, Muhammad pbuh would recite what he heard and his Scribes and Companions would write them down on whatever was to hand. In his final year the Angel went through the whole revelation twice explaining the order of verses. It still wasn't written down as a single collection until after his death.

1 - Isaiah 28:10
2 - Isaiah 28:11


Secondly - to use your argument the word zombie appears nowhere in Mathew. Thus by default I assume you are simply addressing the death and resurrection of Jesus. Two historical sources come to mind - Tacitus and Josephus.
There was no death or resurrection of Jesus pbuh, so no, the word 'zombie' is not a requirement.
 
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I gave you a proper Arabic Dictionary, gave you the poetry, and you continue to argue.

Yes I agree and therefore using the poetry we must subsitute your new interpritation into the text - This is not an argument but rather a development of your defence. The problem is it gets a bit hot under your collar as when we do this the result is the same -
Mohammad is proved by Quranic standards to be a false prophet.
This is according to your new reinterpretation of the text using the Arabic poetry provided by yourself.

Ok so we accept your view, Therefore
Surha 69:46 would now read suffocation and not cut the aorta.
Like wise the Hadith must also be change to fit you new interpretation - Thus Mohammad qotes on his death bed four times - he is suffocating.

Conclusion: - Mohammad is a false prophet by your interpretation of Surah 69 and the Hadiths.
Case Close - Thank You.

According to you, a false Prophet given the Qur'an, which predicts it will become the dominant religion of the World. That prediction was made when less than 10,000 people followed Islam against a mighty Roman Empire that stretched from Europe to the Middle East with Millions of Christian followers.
I thought false prophets gave failed prophecies :/

You are confused my friend - I never said any thing of the sort - Please provide the post number for this claim you say I have made - Failing which it is another one of you manipulation, fabrications and lies to try a prove Islam has some credibility.

Science confirms this sort of thing does happen and if you're standing in the right spot, the moon will indeed 'appear' to split. Did Muhammad pbuh claim that he would cause the moon to split? No, he was just inspired to point up in the night sky when a small group of pagans asked for a sign.
Well in post #9 you posted a video clip of the top 5 Miracles of Mohammed - May be you should have watched it first.

So then we are in agreement Mohammad did not preform miracles.
CASE CLOSED

You're getting ahead of yourself. The verse in the Qur'an says you may renounce your religion if forced to. The Bible shows you may lie to save a life. I see a clear parallel
So let me understand you correctly - Rehab deceived the king to protect the spice I agree. You want to call it a lie - I will accept that. - your conclusion is that Yahweh says it is acceptable to lie to save a life. You forgot Rehab was a prostitute so I am sure this verse means Yahweh is tell us prostitution is also ok, While we at it Jesus drank win so lets all go out and get drunk. - What do you think? - I think it a joke -

You see Muslim UK the problem you are addressing is an incidence of one person in a specific Biblical narrative to justify a global decree of the Islamic faith. Oh he did so its ok for me to kill my mother. This is the most illogical argument one can ever have. It never has worked and never will work. Nowhere in the bible dose it teach that any form of lying or sin for that matter is acceptable to Yahweh.

Muslim scholars teach that there are several forms of lying to non-believers that are permitted under certain circumstances, the best known being taqiyya. These circumstances are typically those that advance the cause of Islam - in some cases by gaining the trust of non-believers in order to draw out their vulnerability and defeat them.
Surah 16:106, 3:28, 9:3, 40:28, 2:225, 3:54, 8:30 and 10:21

Taken collectively these verses are interpreted to mean that there are circumstances when a Muslim may be "compelled" to deceive others for a greater purpose of Islam.
If you require I can give you a number of Hadith to support this as well as the Islamic law on the matter.

So please explain how Jesus death on the cross and the resurrection of the dead help your case that Mohammad did Miracles.
It doesn't but does show Christians demand proof when their own text offers zero evidence.
There is nothing in any biblical text about Mohammad full stop. - however may well be reference as the anti-Christ as noted before.
So yes I AGREE there is no biblical text showing Mohammed did any miracles, well how could it it is 600 years before he was born.
Yes there is Zero proof from a Christian perspective.

Qur'an is true because it could only have come from GOD. I can show you how, but first you have to agree on the following:
The Quran does not have half a leg to stand on - Why on earth after you have just prove that Mohammad is a false prophet by Quranic standards do we need to discuss if the Quran is the word of God. We know it was fabricated by a demon possessed Arab. Full stop.
Besides since you want to base your argument on Biblical scripture, I think I will run out of laughter within first two post, especially if we base this on you understanding of the narrative of Rehab and the spies.
However I have posted 10 Questions which I have stated Muslim can not answer as it will prove the Quran and Islam false, I will gladly discuss this with you.

Re acceptance of Isaiah - I accept all 66 books of the bible in there original form as a literal translation as the inspired Word of Yahweh. Good for my teaching, correction, training and guidance in all matter of life.
 
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Hi.

Is it still too difficult for you to concede that Islam condemns, absolutely, the aggressive behaviours that you described in other posts?

There are a large number of Muslims who believe that wholeheartedly. Listening to the Prime minister after the latest Islamist outrage in London one might be forgiven for thinking it was obvious that Islam was a religion of peace. But facts are it is not and the man who sacrificed his life yesterday in order to mow down school girls and policemen was also a Muslim. Mohammed led wars and his kingdom spread by conquest and many Muslims believe that they should follow his example rather than the Islam - Lite version of himself that many Muslim minorities hide behind.
 
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‘Say (Muhammad): “We (Muslims) believe in God and in what has been sent down to us and to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes. We believe in what has been given to Moses, Jesus, and the prophets from their Lord. We do not make a distinction between any of them. It is to Him that we devote ourselves.”’ (Al‘Imran: 84).

But the words given to Moses contradict the testimony of the Koran. Mohammed did not stand on the shoulders of such giants he contradicted their teachings and changed their stories.
 
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