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Modern day systemic racism, does it exist?

Discussion in 'American Politics' started by IWalkAlone, Nov 25, 2021.

  1. rturner76

    rturner76 Domine non-sum dignus Supporter

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    {eople did count on Trump to ease race relations BUT he made it worse. Are you still under Trump?
     
  2. IWalkAlone

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    It wasn't the systems fault. The system is what fixed the problem.
     
  3. IWalkAlone

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    Trump wanted to help black americans and did if I'm not mistaken.
     
  4. RDKirk

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    By what meat ax are you gong to remove "all possibilities of discrimination?"
     
  5. IWalkAlone

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    We will all dress alike, think alike, and the state will own everything.
     
  6. Strathos

    Strathos No one important

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    A controversial term like that has many different definitions. If you argue with someone who is using a different one, you'll just end up talking past each other.
     
  7. IWalkAlone

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    I made my definition known early on in the thread when I said I was talking about the government
     
  8. IWalkAlone

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    So Asians do less time and make more money than whites. But whites do less time and make more money than blacks do. What does this data say? Is it racism?
     
  9. rturner76

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    How did he do that?
     
  10. Ken-1122

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    I looked at this link and the examples they gave of systemic racism was how zoning laws make it more difficult for the poor to buy housing in certain areas. But that isn't racism, that's an economic issue because the same zoning laws will apply to the poor of all colors, not just blacks. An I missing something here?
     
  11. Ken-1122

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    I looked up your link here and nowhere did I see anything about credit score being based on skin color, it just gave examples of lenders giving preferences to white people over people of other color. Am I missing something here?
     
  12. Estrid

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    Does it sound like systemic racism to you
     
  13. Estrid

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    Good question!
     
  14. Estrid

    Estrid Well-Known Member

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    Welcome to north korea
     
  15. Estrid

    Estrid Well-Known Member

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    Less racist is not just an opinion.
    Here is an opinion:
    If the issues and non issues are pushed too
    hard and particularly in inappropriate ways ( see riots
    and crt) the divisions and push back are going to
    make everyone (except your enemies) very unhappy.
     
  16. SilverBear

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    the median income of Asian American's is a result of where the majority of them live.
     
  17. SilverBear

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    it was the systems fault. No one should have to go through the courts to be eligible for basic civil rights. And Since the Supreme Court's ruling Texas, Tennessee, Mississippi, Wyoming and several other states have enacted laws to create loopholes allowing LGBT individuals to be fired at will.
     
  18. SilverBear

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    the demographics of the poor
     
  19. Parmallia

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    Is that because they want to?

    Here's a personal story: I once found myself unemployed so I hid a doctorate so that I could get a job. Yeah it paid MASSIVELY less than I was technically worth. But I did it because I needed a job.

    Why do you think black people might end up with jobs that don't pay well? Is it their "culture" as so many people on here like to talk about? They just like getting paid less?

    That's the voice of privilege. But then you probably never had to hide an advanced degree so you could keep food on the table. Luxury.
     
  20. RDKirk

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    The answer to what keeps black people poor in 2021 is not racism, it's primarily cultural and has been for thirty years or so. But culture is largely a choice, and blacks who have chosen to step away from the slave culture do better than those who don't in proportion to how far they step away from it.
     
    Last edited: Nov 28, 2021
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