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Modern day systemic racism, does it exist?

Discussion in 'American Politics' started by IWalkAlone, Nov 25, 2021.

  1. IWalkAlone

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    So how about the black immigrants and the Asian Americans? They don't disproportionately commit crime. They don't do the time. Where is the racism?
     
  2. Ken-1122

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    I disagree. I don't think illegal immigrants keep prices low; they will sell their product for as much as they can get away with; illegal immigrants just keep profits high. Back in the 1980's practically all houses built in the State of California were built by illegal immigrants in the construction field getting sub par wages; but in the State of Idaho, most houses during that time were built by Union workers at multiple times the wages of the California illegal immigrants. Guess which house sold for more? Even though the California house costed less to build due to cheap labor costs, they still sold for multiple times more than the houses in Idaho built by Union workers.
     
  3. Estrid

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    Well, that does not sound good.

    I wonder what one would find if say 1000 of such longer
    sentences were examined in detail.
    Is it certain areas? Is it related to prior offenses?
    Anything except just race?
     
  4. rturner76

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    Oh they don't.....Tell me more about "the guetto."
     
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  5. rturner76

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    Let's hear a couple of reasons why blacks get harsher penalties for similar crimes?
     
  6. rturner76

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    The full report is on the Unites States Sentencing Commission website. They get into some of the variables/considerations etc.

    Demographic Differences in Sentencing
     
  7. Ken-1122

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    I think it’s more of a street culture that a large percentage of black youth’s seem to get involved in where doing good in school will get you accused of “acting white” (Obama even spoke of this during his speech to the DNC) Or the “no snitchin”/“snitches in stitches” where people who see crime committed are warned against telling the Police about it. When one does get money, rather than investing it in something allowing growth, it is often used to flex and floss with the newest shiny thing like fancy cars, fancy clothes, and walking around with bundles of money (getting eaten up by inflation) like rappers, rather than investing in stores, or some type of business adventure. A survey was done that showed that blacks families on average have 1/10th the wealth of white families, yet they wear more expensive clothes, more accessories on their cars, spend more on their hair and jewelry than white people. Blacks from the Diaspora don't seem to have this problem. This is a cultural problem, not a systemic racist problem.
     
  8. ArmenianJohn

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    You've been given pages of answers and examples and here you perpetuate the pattern I described. Thanks for illustrating my point further with a demonstration.
     
  9. IWalkAlone

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    You can mock me if you like but I've seen bodies and the cops show up after because they are not there.
     
  10. IWalkAlone

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    19 percent doesn't prove racism. If the system was racist I would expect the number to be much higher
     
  11. IWalkAlone

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    The demographics on gang activity is disproportionate too. They do more crime and do more time
     
  12. IWalkAlone

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    19 percent isn't evidence of racism. If the system were racist i would expect the number to be much higher. Factor that into the fact that black Americans disproportionately commit more crime and what does the picture look like? Not racism.
     
  13. Estrid

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    Cool, thanks!
     
  14. Pommer

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    What is your definition of “ghetto”?
     
  15. IWalkAlone

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    Black folks get a longer sentence but thats because of a judge not because the system itself is racist. The system may allow the judge to hand out different sentences but that has nothing to do with racism. The law is not set up that way to oppress anyone. Should the problem be fixed? Perhaps but its not the system that is racist.
     
  16. RDKirk

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    Then that chart also says the system racially favors Asians over whites...unless you think whites are on average somehow inferior to Asians.
     
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  17. IWalkAlone

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    Anyone who's been there would know. Its an area that mostly blacks live in, is infested with gangs, and people are afraid to call cops.
     
  18. IWalkAlone

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    I didn't see that. Whites are discriminated against too?
     
  19. Pommer

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    Why do “mostly black” people live there?
     
  20. IWalkAlone

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    You would need to ask them. Whites and other races live there too but are the minority.
     
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