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Missionary Work in NY

Discussion in 'Messianic Judaism' started by visionary, Feb 12, 2012.

  1. Qnts2

    Qnts2 Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the info, I had not come across that article.
     
  2. yedida

    yedida Ruth Messianic, joining Israel, Na'aseh v'nishma!

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    Hashem promised that there'd always be a remnant, regardless how remote. We have a record of thousands of years of His faithfulness, no reason to doubt it now.
     
  3. Gxg (G²)

    Gxg (G²) Pilgrim/Monastic on the Road to God (Psalm 84:1-7) Supporter CF Ambassadors

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    There've been a lot of cases where groups seem to disappear and then resurface. Awesome to see KaiFeng Jews still rolling...although their battle has been a sad one when it comes to Jewish identity since othersKaifengers who go to Israel are sometimes floored to discover they need to go through a rabbi-certified conversion to be accepted as Jews, while the ones staying home squabble over which of them are really Jewish. According to the Chinese government, there are no Kaifeng Jews because there are no Chinese Jews--for Judaism isn't one of China's five official religions and Jews aren't designated as one of the country's 55 official minorities. Orthodox Jews have a similar view, though for different reasons. Kaifeng Jews trace their heritage through their father, as Chinese traditionally do, while orthodox Jews define Judaism as passing through the mother.

    There was a fascinating article by Bob Davis that appeared in Wall Street Journal about the group known as the Kaifeng Jews and the challenges they face identifying with a community they've been estranged from and learning traditions long-forgotten. The subtitle says it all: "Divided and Diminished: In Eyes of Judaism as Well as Beijing, Tiny Kaifeng Community Isn't Quite Kosher."





    Many in Kaifeng turn to Timothy Lerner——who claims to be a "Messianic Jew"——to learn Hebrew and Jewish customs. In 2002, Timothy Lerner came to Kaifeng and tried to find the Kaifeng Jews with the purpose of bringing them back to Israel. He lived in Kaifeng for four years. He gathered together a lot of Kaifeng Jews and established a small school. The school he set up, called “Kaifeng Israel School”, has been something many Kaifeng Jews have noted thankfulness for since it was set up to help Kaifeng Jews “learn the Jewish lifestyle” and move to Israel, where about a dozen of them have taken up residence, thanks largely to funds from Shavei Israel, an Israeli group.
     
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  4. Gxg (G²)

    Gxg (G²) Pilgrim/Monastic on the Road to God (Psalm 84:1-7) Supporter CF Ambassadors

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    The resurgence is in many ways a rediscovery of what was always present throughout China and other parts of the East...except that many times it was ignored. A pity it was ignored by so many, in light of the Biblical example of Job:
    Job 1:3/Job 1

    Prologue

    1 In the land of Uz there lived a man whose name was Job. This man was blameless and upright; he feared God and shunned evil. 2 He had seven sons and three daughters, 3 and he owned seven thousand sheep, three thousand camels, five hundred yoke of oxen and five hundred donkeys, and had a large number of servants. He was the greatest man among all the people of the East.

    4 His sons used to hold feasts in their homes on their birthdays, and they would invite their three sisters to eat and drink with them. 5 When a period of feasting had run its course, Job would make arrangements for them to be purified. Early in the morning he would sacrifice a burnt offering for each of them, thinking, “Perhaps my children have sinned and cursed God in their hearts.” This was Job’s regular custom.

    and he owned seven thousand sheep, three thousand camels, five hundred yoke of oxen and five hundred donkeys, and had a large number of servants. He was the greatest man among all the people of the East.

    There are some who note how Job himself was an Oriental/East Asian.....and for more, one can go online/look up the article entitled The Image of the Oriental: Western and Byzantine Perceptions and the other here at Cyclopaedia of biblical, theological, and ecclesiastical literature - Google Books Result (concerning how Job's tomb is still shown to many Oriental tourists). Also, in the event you (or others) may be interested, there are some excellent articles on the subject of Asian Jews...specifically, those who are Chinese Jews. For more info, one can go online and investigate under the following:

     
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